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Trigger, Shooter, other violent baby names on the rise: survey
"Talk about a son of a gun!
Violent baby names are on the rise as gun-lusting Americans pull the trigger on names like “Magnum,” “Shooter” and “Caliber,” according to troubling new data from Nameberry.com.
Names inspired by knives, intimidating movie stars, tough girls and warriors have also spiked.
The most popular of the macho monikers is “Gunner,” which 1,500 U.S. babies received last year. Gunner means “bold warrior” in Swedish.
Other names gaining in popularity for boys are more specifically gun-related: Trigger, Shooter, Caliber, Magnum and Pistol, plus names inspired by gun manufacturers like Barrett, Remington, Kimber, Browning and Wesson.
The popularity has soared despite concerns over gun violence in America."
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Mass shootings in US what is behind them?
Re: Mass shootings in US what is behind them?
by Apneaman » Tue 06 Oct 2015, 23:55:33
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Re: Mass shootings in US what is behind them?
by Apneaman » Thu 08 Oct 2015, 01:46:38
America doesn’t have more crime than other rich countries. It just has more guns.
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Re: Mass shootings in US what is behind them?
by Apneaman » Thu 08 Oct 2015, 01:47:46
Kids Pose With Santa & Machine Guns for Christmas Cards (VIDEO)
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Re: Mass shootings in US what is behind them?
by Apneaman » Thu 08 Oct 2015, 01:50:29
Study: Americans Commit 31% Of All World Mass Shootings With 5% Of Population. Here’s Why.
"First, that the number of firearms in circulation is directly proportionate to the number of mass shootings, which may seem obvious but has now been empirically confirmed. Guns, in fact, do kill people. “The United States, Yemen, Switzerland, Finland, and Serbia are ranked as the Top 5 countries in firearms owned per capita, according to the 2007 Small Arms Survey, and my study found that all five are ranked in the Top 15 countries in public mass shooters per capita” reads the report.
Secondly, that American mass shooters were much more likely to strike crowded civilian targets like schools or office buildings, but shooters in other nations usually hit military targets like bases and checkpoints, which indicates a more political motivation rather than a selfish desire to inflict suffering on others.
His biggest conclusion, however, prompts some reflection on the American psyche in general, an examination through we find the roots of the ugliest part of our national character.
“In the United States, where many individuals are socialized to assume that they will reach great levels of success and achieve ‘the American Dream,’ there may be particularly high levels of strain among those who encounter blocked goals or have negative social interactions with their peers, coworkers, or bosses. When we add depression, schizophrenia, paranoia, or narcissism into the mix, this could explain why the U.S. has such a disproportionate number of public mass shooters. Other countries certainly have their share of people who struggle with these problems, but they may be less likely to indulge in the delusions of grandeur that are common among these offenders in the U.S., and, of course, less likely to get their hands on the guns necessary for such attacks.”
America’s prosperity and relatively rapid ascension to superpower status has left us shamefully self-entitled. There is nothing more abhorrently selfish than the mass shooting-suicide that occurs so often in our nation. But we should be asking ourselves some very deep questions about our self-entitlement. As a general thought experiment, consider this: Are we simply becoming aware of the fact that the concept of the “American Dream” is a potent opiate of the masses, that we’re seeing the middle class decline and social mobility grind to a halt and all the income flow to the top one percent of Americans, no matter how many bootstraps you pull, and recognizing that we’ve been lied to this whole time?
On the other hand, are we simply self-absorbed to the point where we are psychologically incapable of accepting the fact that life is a cruel mistress and things don’t play out as one might wish? That it will drive Americans to the point where they say “If I can’t have it, nobody can?” With the hunger of the social media machine and the infotainment, sensationalized nature of cable news, there is a willing audience ready to give to a disgruntled American the attention in death that they desired in life. The horrendously graphic nature of the recent tragedy in Virginia, where the killer recorded the double murder of two news anchors and posted it online gives some credence to this idea.
The proliferation of firearms in this nation is an epidemic which must be dealt with. But after we do that, we have some very dark questions to ask as we begin to reinvent ourselves for a new era."
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"First, that the number of firearms in circulation is directly proportionate to the number of mass shootings, which may seem obvious but has now been empirically confirmed. Guns, in fact, do kill people. “The United States, Yemen, Switzerland, Finland, and Serbia are ranked as the Top 5 countries in firearms owned per capita, according to the 2007 Small Arms Survey, and my study found that all five are ranked in the Top 15 countries in public mass shooters per capita” reads the report.
Secondly, that American mass shooters were much more likely to strike crowded civilian targets like schools or office buildings, but shooters in other nations usually hit military targets like bases and checkpoints, which indicates a more political motivation rather than a selfish desire to inflict suffering on others.
His biggest conclusion, however, prompts some reflection on the American psyche in general, an examination through we find the roots of the ugliest part of our national character.
“In the United States, where many individuals are socialized to assume that they will reach great levels of success and achieve ‘the American Dream,’ there may be particularly high levels of strain among those who encounter blocked goals or have negative social interactions with their peers, coworkers, or bosses. When we add depression, schizophrenia, paranoia, or narcissism into the mix, this could explain why the U.S. has such a disproportionate number of public mass shooters. Other countries certainly have their share of people who struggle with these problems, but they may be less likely to indulge in the delusions of grandeur that are common among these offenders in the U.S., and, of course, less likely to get their hands on the guns necessary for such attacks.”
America’s prosperity and relatively rapid ascension to superpower status has left us shamefully self-entitled. There is nothing more abhorrently selfish than the mass shooting-suicide that occurs so often in our nation. But we should be asking ourselves some very deep questions about our self-entitlement. As a general thought experiment, consider this: Are we simply becoming aware of the fact that the concept of the “American Dream” is a potent opiate of the masses, that we’re seeing the middle class decline and social mobility grind to a halt and all the income flow to the top one percent of Americans, no matter how many bootstraps you pull, and recognizing that we’ve been lied to this whole time?
On the other hand, are we simply self-absorbed to the point where we are psychologically incapable of accepting the fact that life is a cruel mistress and things don’t play out as one might wish? That it will drive Americans to the point where they say “If I can’t have it, nobody can?” With the hunger of the social media machine and the infotainment, sensationalized nature of cable news, there is a willing audience ready to give to a disgruntled American the attention in death that they desired in life. The horrendously graphic nature of the recent tragedy in Virginia, where the killer recorded the double murder of two news anchors and posted it online gives some credence to this idea.
The proliferation of firearms in this nation is an epidemic which must be dealt with. But after we do that, we have some very dark questions to ask as we begin to reinvent ourselves for a new era."
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Re: Mass shootings in US what is behind them?
by careinke » Thu 08 Oct 2015, 01:52:13
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Apneaman', 'Y')abut it's only about our 2nd amendment rights and we are in no way pathologically obsessed with violence and fire arms. No not at all.
Trigger, Shooter, other violent baby names on the rise: survey
"Talk about a son of a gun!
Violent baby names are on the rise as gun-lusting Americans pull the trigger on names like “Magnum,” “Shooter” and “Caliber,” according to troubling new data from Nameberry.com.
Names inspired by knives, intimidating movie stars, tough girls and warriors have also spiked.
The most popular of the macho monikers is “Gunner,” which 1,500 U.S. babies received last year. Gunner means “bold warrior” in Swedish.
Other names gaining in popularity for boys are more specifically gun-related: Trigger, Shooter, Caliber, Magnum and Pistol, plus names inspired by gun manufacturers like Barrett, Remington, Kimber, Browning and Wesson.
The popularity has soared despite concerns over gun violence in America."
http://www.nydailynews.com/life-style/v ... -1.2345629
Trigger, Shooter, other violent baby names on the rise: survey
"Talk about a son of a gun!
Violent baby names are on the rise as gun-lusting Americans pull the trigger on names like “Magnum,” “Shooter” and “Caliber,” according to troubling new data from Nameberry.com.
Names inspired by knives, intimidating movie stars, tough girls and warriors have also spiked.
The most popular of the macho monikers is “Gunner,” which 1,500 U.S. babies received last year. Gunner means “bold warrior” in Swedish.
Other names gaining in popularity for boys are more specifically gun-related: Trigger, Shooter, Caliber, Magnum and Pistol, plus names inspired by gun manufacturers like Barrett, Remington, Kimber, Browning and Wesson.
The popularity has soared despite concerns over gun violence in America."
http://www.nydailynews.com/life-style/v ... -1.2345629
It would be interesting to see the race breakdown of the babies getting these names. Are we guessing White supremacists or Black gang bangers?
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Re: Mass shootings in US what is behind them?
by AgentR11 » Thu 08 Oct 2015, 10:45:05
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Apneaman', '&')quot;First, that the number of firearms in circulation is directly proportionate to the number of mass shootings, which may seem obvious but has now been empirically confirmed. Guns, in fact, do kill people. “The United States, Yemen, Switzerland, Finland, and Serbia are ranked as the Top 5 countries in firearms owned per capita, according to the 2007 Small Arms Survey, and my study found that all five are ranked in the Top 15 countries in public mass shooters per capita” reads the report.
Interesting to note it says "mass shootings" instead of "mass killings" or "mass murders". Basically, you define a set that can only be entered with tool A, and then note that the prevalence of tool A effects the rankings of each set by country. You didn't need a study to prove that. But it also tells you almost nothing useful.
It does not tell you that the number of mass killings will decline if the number of firearms declines.
It does not tell you that a change in law will result in a reduction in the number of firearms.
And it certainly doesn't address the fact that any law that could even marginally adjust the number of firearms in circulation, which are mostly handguns and "regular" shotguns and rifles typically used in hunting or even target shooting, would be exceptionally intrusive in the American environment and would almost certainly result in the party passing it, being removed from office at the next election.
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', '')In the United States, where many individuals are socialized to assume that they will reach great levels of success and achieve ‘the American Dream,’ there may be particularly high levels of strain among those who encounter blocked goals or have negative social interactions with their peers, coworkers, or bosses.
This is a *real* biggy. I'm gonna get in trouble here a bit... but the terms "alpha male" & "beta male". From an American cultural standpoint, "beta male" is potent insult. But then, think about reality, if you assume society needs some "alpha" personalities, (I tend to define the term outside of machismo, to more along the lines of being both highly sociable and efficiently decisive.) how many does it really need. 1 in a 1000 maybe? Ok, then to a larger grouping, technical professionals, engineers, archis, blah blah... Or high end lawyers and other service sector personnel. Hate using "IQ", but its useful demographically.. sorta, so say you need a minimum of 135 iq to handle the tasks comfortably; thus 2 in a 100 have the capability to do those jobs with some degree of ease. (not to exclude the exceptionally determined person of 100iq!, demographics only)
So if say, 1 in a 1000 is an "alpha", and you have an honest 2+ in 100 as capable with ease, that leaves almost everyone in the middle class as either sinking rapidly, or busting their butts to the absolute maximum of their ability just to stay even with the standards of the American dream as is now defined. And nearly everyone is *told* that they are able, and are expected to reach that standard.
We are so reluctant to grab the kid with average intellect and a good eye, and say, hey, you know, you could turn out to be a really crappy engineer with a lot of effort and study, or let me introduce you to the fine art of welding. Is he likely to get rich as a welder, not usually; can he afford a decent apartment, wife and kid, and drive to the lake/beach every once in a while? Absolutely. Why is that a bad thing?
We set them up all through childhood, "best is best, and everyone should be the best", our version of newspeak in reality. Its corrosive to everyone who can't run a 4 minute mile, or score 150 on an iq test, or fluently speak 5 languages.
Almost everyone male is a beta; that is the appropriate appellation for normal, strong, powerful, productive, intelligent, skilled men, fully comfortable with their masculinity. (noting that almost all mass murderers are male here...) Yet, in America, "beta" is a terrible insult.
I'm not really harping on the two terms, but rather just using them to illustrate this problem with American expectations for their kids. "Everyone is exceptional". Its evil and destructive.
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'T')he proliferation of firearms in this nation is an epidemic which must be dealt with. But after we do that, we have some very dark questions to ask as we begin to reinvent ourselves for a new era."
Dealt with? Right. No law you can pass and remain in office past one election cycle will effect the number of firearms in the US by more than 0.01%. And any attempt at any such law will drive gun sales before passage and implementation, through the roof.
You are holding the WRONG TOOL when you reach for the legislative pen.
You need to fix the above social problem, and you need to make guns uncool but occasionally useful tools. That's a tough challenge as long as you leave the "everyone must be an alpha male" paradigm in place.
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