[Cog]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Apneaman', 'G')oghGoner, get real! You cannot throw a bunch of numbers out without comparison and context and say figure it out for yourself to attempt to make a case. LAME

[onlooker]

Cog, first of all we are not talking simply about murders but mass murders or rampage killings. Second, I venture to say blacks. So. They are in general committing more crimes. So. I can honestly say confidently that has to do with their socio-economic standing and the drug culture context that they grow up in. Again, your veering from the actual topic not very adult like of you.

[Plantagenet]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('onlooker', 'I') found this graph-chart which shows something interesting. with regards to other relatively well off countries, US ranks 6th in per capita rampage shootings. Note that the countries ahead of the US all have restrictive gun ownership laws. So this seems to show that US culture is not necessarily an ugly aberration that is pushing people to commit these atrocities.
http://www.datehookup.com/Thread-1421843.htm

[Plantagenet]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('onlooker', 'C')og, first of all we are not talking simply about murders but mass murders or rampage killings. Second, I venture to say blacks. So.....

[Cog]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('onlooker', 'C')og, first of all we are not talking simply about murders but mass murders or rampage killings. Second, I venture to say blacks. So. They are in general committing more crimes. So. I can honestly say confidently that has to do with their socio-economic standing and the drug culture context that they grow up in. Again, your veering from the actual topic not very adult like of you.

[Cog]

I have not seen the whited out photo of the mass killer but I have seen the whited out photo of Zimmerman done by NBC to make Zimmerman look less Hispanic and more white. Also NBC continued to show Trayvon Martin as a innocent 12 year old although there were more recent photos of him(as a 17 year old) flashing gang signs and smoking weed.

[Cog]

Now if you want to know why law abiding citizens want to be armed just read the story below. .

http://www.knoxnews.com/news/local-news ... s-in-focus

Christian and Newsom disappeared Jan. 6, 2007, from the Washington Ridge apartment complex where Christian's best friend lived.

Hours later, Newsom's body was found alongside railroad tracks near Chipman Street in East Knoxville. He had been raped with an object and then shot three times. The final shot was delivered execution style.

He had been gagged with a sock stuffed in his mouth. His ankles were bound with his own belt. His hands were secured behind his back. His face was wrapped in a bandanna. His head was covered with a sweatshirt tied around his neck with shoestrings.

Forensic evidence showed that he had been raped in the final hours of his life. He was forced to walk barefoot to the railroad tracks that ran parallel to Chipman Street and shot in the neck and back. As Newsom lay paralyzed on the ground, the muzzle of a .22-caliber gun was placed against his covered head and fired. His body would later be wrapped up in a comforter, doused in gasoline and set afire.

Christian, meanwhile, was tied up inside the Chipman Street house of Davidson, a stranger to her. She was repeatedly raped orally, vaginally and rectally. At some point, she was savagely attacked in her genital region, either kicked or beaten with an object.

She suffered two blows to the head and was dragged into the carpeted living room of Davidson's Chipman Street home. Bleach was sprayed down her throat, an apparent effort to destroy DNA evidence.

She was hogtied with strips of fabric from a bedding set. Still alive, her body was encased in black garbage bags and her head wrapped in a white plastic grocery bag. Christian was then stuffed inside a trash can and left to die, slowly suffocating.

Sneaking a preview

Suspect Boyd has long denied any role in the couple's abduction. With no forensic proof tying him to the crimes, authorities were left to prosecute him for hiding out Davidson after the slayings. He is serving an 18-year federal prison sentence as a result.

But his statement to authorities provides striking details of the carjacking — details he insisted came from Davidson, not his own memory.

Christian was angry with Newsom because he had tarried in picking her up for the birthday party of a friend. As she sat in the front seat of her Toyota 4-Runner parked outside, Newsom sought to set things right, hugging and kissing her as he stood just outside the driver's side door.

The couple never saw Boyd cruise into the parking lot at Washington Ridge with passengers Davidson and Cobbins. An armed Boyd and Davidson jumped from the car, leaving Cobbins behind. At that point, the pair intended only to rob Christian and Newsom of the SUV. But as they approached the couple, guns drawn, headlights from another vehicle spooked them. They pushed the couple into the SUV.

Testimony has shown that Christian and Newsom were bound in the SUV with whatever cords the assailants could find. Newsom was forced facedown in the vehicle. A bound Christian was dumped onto his back.

With Davidson behind the wheel of Christian's SUV and Cobbins trailing behind in a car Boyd had borrowed from his cousin, the crew headed back to Davidson's Chipman Street home.

There was no doubt then that the couple would die.

[Apneaman]

Fuck off Cog, you're far from being an adult, which is apparent from your constantly trying to make the discussions about something they ain't. Who gives a fuck about your racial ravings. Can you even go one post without trying to make it all about your personal politics? Go start another post of your own on how black are gangsters ruining America. The topic is Mass shootings in US what is behind them?. Deal with it.

[Apneaman]

Cog, also fuck off with the christian victimhood card.

[Cog]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Apneaman', 'F')uck off Cog, you're far from being an adult, which is apparent from your constantly trying to make the discussions about something they ain't. Who gives a fuck about your racial ravings. Can you even go one post without trying to make it all about your personal politics? Go start another post of your own on how black are gangsters ruining America. The topic is Mass shootings in US what is behind them?. Deal with it.

[Apneaman]

Poor widdle cogy and and all the poor rightwing christians - nothing has gone their way for the last 1700 years.

As fucked as the American left is, this is all the American right has to offer as we approach the apes most challenging threats in their history. Religious fundamentalism, anti intellectualism, zenophobia and science denial.


Jeb Bush embraces the narrative of Christian victimhood


https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/pl ... ictimhood/

[Apneaman]

And more guns.

[Cog]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Apneaman', 'C')og, also fuck off with the christian victimhood card.

[Cog]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Apneaman', 'A')nd more guns.

[Cog]

By the way, for those not deluded by the liberal persuasion, there are some great deals out there on AR-15's, magazines, and bulk ammo. Buy now and don't cry when the Dems create another panic.

https://dsgarms.com/magazines-rifle-556

http://www.bulkammo.com/rifle/bulk-.223-ammo

http://palmettostatearmory.com/index.ph ... e-kit.html

http://palmettostatearmory.com/index.ph ... gory/4282/

[Cog]

Back on topic.

List the gun laws you would like to see passed to control violence in the USA. I wish to see how inventive you gun-grabbers truly are. If they have merit, I will forward them to the NRA executive board. Since I am a life member of the NRA, perhaps they will give your ideas all the consideration that they are due.

[careinke]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Lore', '
')
You obviously have no military background. It's all about command and control and being able to bring assets online. Fit, well trained and equipped troops will always be more than a match for mall ninjas and fat ole vets. The only thing that stops our military from accomplishing its goals are Washington politicians.

[Apneaman]

Yes cog, I have owned firearms since I was 8 years old. I am not an American, although I have lived there, or a liberal. This is a common failing with you guys on both sides. Manichean thinking - very dangerous. I get accused of being a conservative on liberal sites for my critiques of Obama, Dems and alt energy dreamers. The rest of the world does not see things the way way so many of you do. Seems rather ridiculous to claim that one brand of ideology has all the answers to every single fast changing 21st century problem. Y'all have become so completely radicalized that neither party is even close to being representative of what they were when I was young. You have been divided and ruled - not with the gun, but with the think tank. All this pro gun rhetoric comes out of gun industry funded think tanks and they own politicians too - same as any other big industry. From a distance y'all look like spoiled whining children. Same on every issue. What I find most amazing, is the screaming about constitutional rights and cold dead hand. Y'all just went through the last 15 years of having almost all your constitutional rights stripped away and sat on your fat asses and did nothing except mumble. Oh but when it comes to the 2nd amendment this is somehow the only one worth screaming about. You have all your guns, more than ever, but no real freedoms left to protect because I guess the game was on or some shit while they were being legislated away. Why have any fucking guns and militias if you're not going to use them to protect your rights (which were only temporary privileges). I guess they are good to protect ones property - that's that place full of consumer goods where so called patriots spend all their time huddled over keyboards bitching about how somebody done them wrong - hoping someone will do something about it. Just not me because there is no fucking way I would ever put my body on the line for that. All this talk of sacrifice is bullshit too - what you people mean is you want to sacrifice someone - want to take out all that rage from your perceived loss of entitlement onto someone else; some other group and it's always one with little influence or real power. I'm something of a history buff and have spent untold hours studying the American revolution (thanks France) and I'm pretty sure if the real patriots appeared today the first thing they would do is form a firing line and shoot you pretenders in the head for fucking everything up and warping their ideals.

Yep, I see gun sales have already gone up - problem solved eh?

[Apneaman]

Cold Dead Hand with Jim Carrey



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N0Wn3Eey6dY

[Ibon]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Apneaman', ' ')The rest of the world does not see things the way way so many of you do. Seems rather ridiculous to claim that one brand of ideology has all the answers to every single fast changing 21st century problem. Y'all have become so completely radicalized that neither party is even close to being representative of what they were when I was young. You have been divided and ruled