[onlooker]

Yes Timo, where you were done by the age of 30, I think. Of course we know what the "done" is.

[Ibon]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Timo', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Ibon', 'W')ith low enough population numbers we do not need to sacrifice pleasures and comforts and conveniences. Self regulation really doesn't mean sacrificing comforts, conveniences and pleasures. It is the opposite. By not self regulating we are sacrificing comforts, conveniences and pleasures.

[Timo]

Our best method at numerical self-regulation that we've figured out so far seems to be plain old simple war. No need at introverted self-regulation. Let's kill those people! Free land to expand our industry! Free resources to exploit. Free room to grow!

When the time comes around again, we'll find some new other people to kill. Rinse and repeat. FOREVER!!!!!!!!!!

How long until the next round?

[onlooker]

ummm, I guess that the US population would not be good at conforming to either Government control or to a power-down, voluntary less consumption lifestyle. In terms of what is better to be under control by the authorities for the sake of maintaining public order or to let people improvise and have government recede in power, I would say the former. Somehow I do not think here in the US we would be good at any kind of self-regulation. After all are we not recognized globally as the spoiled country which undoubtedly we are. Somehow a country whose citizens are in great numbers into watching zombies, sporting events, into facebook and into addictions like gambling, sex, alcohol and drugs as well as being a country of people who do not like to be told what to do by anyone, the ideal candidates for self-control and self-regulation.