[dohboi]

Good idea.

[Pops]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('dohboi', 'G')ood idea.

[dohboi]

[Keith_McClary]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Sixstrings', 'T')he "my kid has a peanut allergy," anti-vaccine, munchausen by proxy syndrome, helicopter mothers crowd -- is about 50/50 split far right and far left.
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There's got to be some kind of federal law passed about this, social services in every state need to enforce vaccination for the home school kids. Again -- the main issue on that is that the non-vaccinated put ALL infants at risk -- who haven't had their chance to get vaccinated -- now nobody can say that's right, you can't expose babies to measles and maybe polio and all these old diseases.

[careinke]

I remember when lots of kids caught the measles. It's not like you had a high probability of dying from the measles (at least in 1st world countries). Most measle deaths are caused by additional compromising issues like malnutrition.

That said I was vaccinated, my children were vaccinated, and I'm told my future grandchild will be vaccinated. I think the risks from the vaccine are far lower than the risk from measles. So if available, why not take the vaccine even if it only lowers your risk of death a little.

[Pops]

Most people under 40 think smallpox is something the pilgrims gave the indians, LOL. I have a smallpox vaccination scar on my arm like most people my age. My step father had polio as a kid and it resulted in some deformity of his spine from his legs being unequal lengths. It affected him his whole life and not just physically.

Someone upstream mentioned remembering the line for the polio vaccine, I remember it as well, it was a big deal. The county health department parking lots were full and the thing I remember is walking a long way to get to the building and the long line once we got there. We just don't realized how big a deal these immunizations were, people were justifiably terrified of a range of deadly diseases not that long ago.

But it ties in with the OP, not the crazy wing-nut aspect, just the difference in culture today compared to the 50s vis a vie community ties. Everywhere wasn't Mayberry but most folks knew where they were without the need for GPS.

[Ibon]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Pops', ' ')Everywhere wasn't Mayberry but most folks knew where they were without the need for GPS.

[Tanada]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Pops', 'M')ost people under 40 think smallpox is something the pilgrims gave the indians, LOL. I have a smallpox vaccination scar on my arm like most people my age. My step father had polio as a kid and it resulted in some deformity of his spine from his legs being unequal lengths. It affected him his whole life and not just physically.

Someone upstream mentioned remembering the line for the polio vaccine, I remember it as well, it was a big deal. The county health department parking lots were full and the thing I remember is walking a long way to get to the building and the long line once we got there. We just don't realized how big a deal these immunizations were, people were justifiably terrified of a range of deadly diseases not that long ago.

But it ties in with the OP, not the crazy wing-nut aspect, just the difference in culture today compared to the 50s vis a vie community ties. Everywhere wasn't Mayberry but most folks knew where they were without the need for GPS.

[dohboi]

"Chicken Pox for example is really a very minor illness and by suppressing it IMO we are weakening the immune system of the younger generation"

This kind of point is the direction I, for one, would like to see the discussion going. Isn't it a bit disingenuous of some of us who talk high and mighty about the power and necessity of the overshoot predator to be so adamant about insisting that everyone should be getting this kind of protection against the very same beastie?

And also, whenever it does happen that the utter collapse comes, aren't things like vaccines going to go out the window. I would think that at that point populations that have allowed at least some of these diseases to 'cull' the population of those most susceptible would then as a group be least susceptible to future scourges. Am I missing something? (I realize that this doesn't apply as well to something like the scourge of polio.)

(I also don't see why they couldn't delay it, if it would allay some fears; but some of these fears/paranoias are not really evidence based, anyway, so no amount of proof...is going to alter the pre-set perception.)

[Pops]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('dohboi', 'b')ut some of these fears/paranoias are not really evidence based, anyway, so no amount of proof...is going to alter the pre-set perception.