THE Alex Jones Thread (merged)

by **Petro** » Thu 23 Jun 2005, 10:06:09

All the above are good points with respect to AJ. He probably is a good guy. I listen almost everyday, unless he goes off on the BohGro, which I really couldn't care less about. People; cults, religion, have been going on since the dawn of man and will remain until the sunset, it's just more ranting about not being a Christian.

On the other topics, he's usually right on, standing inside and able to clearly see the machinations.

He rose to fame mostly because of 911 and all that and he's painted himself into a box, so to speak, and lacks objectivity in most other arenas. Perhaps he only knows how to research certain topics.

The other day he said something like, "There is enough oil in the artic to run America for 200 years!". Professing only to discuss what he can prove...where is his proof for this disclosure. Unfortunately, when he makes statements like that it discredits virtually all others.

It's getting harder for me to listen to him, and that's unfortunate. But like EC said stated, you can't rely on ANY single source, and I've never liked throwing the baby out with the bathwater.

Off topic warning: jesus...CNOOC is bidding 18 Billion for UNOCAL.. seems they are on a shopping spree for oil

by **stu** » Thu 23 Jun 2005, 13:58:31

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('EnemyCombatant', '.') Don't be completely sold that PO is for real. Listen to Alex and why he thinks it's a trap to bring about the NWO. I've listened to his viewpoint and of course the peak oil viewpoint. Both sides make excellent points. Keep an open mind.

by **Petro** » Thu 23 Jun 2005, 14:18:17

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', '.')..What makes me laugh is this. If abiotic oil was true then the process would have been going since we discovered oil.

by **stu** » Thu 23 Jun 2005, 14:49:19

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Petro', ' ')

Wouldn't we also have oceans of oil all over the place if it is constantly being manfactured. Seems to me at some point vast preasures would force it to the surface and puddle like the dead sea?

by **RG73** » Thu 23 Jun 2005, 14:56:13

Well he's going to be in town here tonight and Monday for screenings of his movie, so if anyone is in Austin they can come and harass him about his peak oil denial in person.

Personally I can't think of a better way to spend Thursday night than with a bucket of beer watching conspiracy movies and celebrating the apocalypse and giving Alex Jones a hard time.

by **EnemyCombatant** » Fri 24 Jun 2005, 10:36:08

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('stu', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('EnemyCombatant', '.') Don't be completely sold that PO is for real. Listen to Alex and why he thinks it's a trap to bring about the NWO. I've listened to his viewpoint and of course the peak oil viewpoint. Both sides make excellent points. Keep an open mind.

by **stu** » Fri 24 Jun 2005, 11:22:10

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('EnemyCombatant', '
')I don't believe AJ subscribes to this theory. He claims there is a shitload of oil in the ground waiting to be discovered. His argument is that the Illuminati will use a peak oil scare to make you dependent on them.

by **Rickenbacker** » Fri 24 Jun 2005, 11:44:41

Yet again it doesnt really matter.

If AJ is right and PO is a cleverly created myth then the worst that will happen if we make efforts to survive PO then we will be closer to energy sustainability. Unless we use it to justify big wars. If we dont prepare then we still risk mass death due to global warming or a later run out of oil, which is arriving on an exponentially accelerating train anyway.

If he's wrong and the campbell/kunstler/heinberg/ simmons/ruppert 'cartel' are right then we have to do it, and if we don't were all f**ked.

After watching some of AJ's stuff, before reading his views on PO, I was thinking that I didnt know who/what to believe anymore, and can see how he can come to his conclusions.

Especially considering Hubbert and Campbell have their own reasons for supporting the 'economic crash' aspect of PO:

(from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Technocratic_movement)

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'A') primary difference of a technocratic society would be the elimination of the price-system. Since such a simple change would have far-reaching effects on the global economy, the technocrats state they will wait until the price-system fails before implementing their system.

by **stu** » Fri 24 Jun 2005, 11:59:17

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Rickenbacker', 'Y')et again it doesnt really matter.

by **Bandidoz** » Fri 24 Jun 2005, 12:02:57

Point is, Hubbert identified how the geology works 50 years ago and it has played out in dozens of countries. He also made a prediction on Year 2000 Peak Oil many many years ago. Campbell et al have merely updated his predictions with more up-to-date data.

So any idea of Peak Oil being a NWO conspiracy is laughable.

by **EnemyCombatant** » Fri 24 Jun 2005, 12:29:23

Just keep an open mind.

:-D

by **stu** » Fri 24 Jun 2005, 12:35:56

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('EnemyCombatant', 'J')ust keep an open mind.

:-D

by **EnemyCombatant** » Fri 24 Jun 2005, 12:50:44

Actually I agree with you.

The evidence is on the side of the peak oilers for sure. AJ keeps saying he may do a documentary or have a peak oil debate.

I am waiting for this debate/discussion.

by **stu** » Fri 24 Jun 2005, 13:05:41

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('EnemyCombatant', '.') AJ keeps saying he may do a documentary or have a peak oil debate.
.

by **Rickenbacker** » Fri 24 Jun 2005, 16:11:25

Yeah I doubt it, the US hubbert peak being so accurate etc is overwhelming evidence. But if these guys are half as poweful and sly as some would have you think, then they might be playing the long game...

I imagine some of you will have seen the dutch documentary on skull and bones mentioned, I wonder what Bush Sr/CIA etc are planning for the 'greatest threat to US security' (overpopulation in the world) Could this be a part of it? Theyve been planning for a while, and meanwhile the problem has gotten exponentially worse...

http://www.propagandamatrix.com/skull_a ... art_1.html
http://www.propagandamatrix.com/skull_a ... art_2.html

(the bit I refer to is the guy who says he gave bush a 2 page summary of a book about how overpopulation is the greatest threat to US security)

by **The_Virginian** » Sun 26 Jun 2005, 03:48:22

A debate would be a healthy thing IMHO.

We all know radio/media personalities are 90% EGO.

Let's see if we can even agree on FACTS.

Keep in mind there is USGS FACTS and Colin Cambel FACTS, and they don't jive with one another.

The Irony of it all is even those labled "conspiracy theorists" agree with Government once in a while.

As for where all that oil will come from:

http://www.peakoil.com/fortopic8382.html

If you want my take the truth on Iraq is likely 150-200gb max, or 100 min. In either case PO is delayed for a few years, or as other posters have suggested the "decline" is managed.

by **Armageddon** » Sun 26 Jun 2005, 12:46:59

i enjoy alex jones, and really liked his new martial law documentary. i totally agree that 911 was staged for a prelude for the war in iraq to gain control of their oil, and for the u.s. to set up military bases there for other future attacks, and be closer to the saudi oil also. BUT, he is wrong about peak oil. oil companies do search and discovery for oil. there is no way they could be overlooking big fields to further the nwo's agenda. i believe in the nwo , bilderburgs, and alluminaties that they controll most everything ( federal reserve ). geology proves PO is real. PO is not about running out of oil as many believe. there is lots of oil still left. PO is about the time when the earth reaches it production peak, and cannot produce anymore oil per day no matter how hard they try. right now its at about 84 mpd. with natural decline at about 4 % , we may be at peak right now. the problem is when demand is higher than 84 mpd and there is nothing they can do to increase production.

by **EnemyCombatant** » Sun 26 Jun 2005, 14:21:19

You are probably right armageddon.

To be honest with you, I hope AJ is right. :cry:

So when we defeat the NWO, we will at least have resources to start over with.

by **Petro** » Sat 02 Jul 2005, 10:04:17

After listening to countless hours of AJ rant over the NWO making America the 'Bad Cop', in order to usher in the master plan of world governance, I happen upon this little piece of interest
Perhaps he is on to something.

by **OilsNotWell** » Sat 02 Jul 2005, 13:28:24

I saw that too. The implications of a real Russo-Sino pact would shake the geopolitical landscape for years to come...

Expecially if India steps in...

"Eastasia", right?

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