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Re: How did geologists figure out that petroleum is organic.

Unread postby ROCKMAN » Sun 14 Dec 2014, 19:46:44

Dino - As Sheldon on the "Big Bang Theory" says: "Geologists aren't really scientists...they are just dirt people".
Dirt people that make fun of theoretical physicists...and people who believe that abiotic oil will save BAU.
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Re: How did geologists figure out that petroleum is organic.

Unread postby dinopello » Sun 14 Dec 2014, 22:17:46

You guys may not be real scientists, but where would we be without you ?

Just don't let yourself be taken for granite.
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Re: How did geologists figure out that petroleum is organic.

Unread postby DesuMaiden » Sun 14 Dec 2014, 22:18:36

What does BAU stand for btw?
History repeats itself. Just everytime with different characters and players.
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Re: How did geologists figure out that petroleum is organic.

Unread postby SeaGypsy » Sun 14 Dec 2014, 22:21:30

Business As Usual
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Re: How did geologists figure out that petroleum is organic.

Unread postby ROCKMAN » Mon 15 Dec 2014, 13:02:08

Gypsy - And all this time I thought it stood for Big Arrogant Understatement
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Re: How did geologists figure out that petroleum is organic.

Unread postby kildred590 » Wed 17 Dec 2014, 02:17:10

Actually the main reason is that no oil has been found deeper than the Jurassic layer (or whatever period it was that the marine creatures were laid down). Soviet scientists claimed they had discovered some in a deep mine in Khazakstan in the 1970s, but that claim has never been substantiated.
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Re: How did geologists figure out that petroleum is organic.

Unread postby rockdoc123 » Wed 17 Dec 2014, 13:56:27

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'A')ctually the main reason is that no oil has been found deeper than the Jurassic layer (or whatever period it was that the marine creatures were laid down). Soviet scientists claimed they had discovered some in a deep mine in Khazakstan in the 1970s, but that claim has never been substantiated


Once again I suggest you read the Abiotic Oil Thread as it goes through in excruciating detail a number of times what the evidence is....it is many fold. That being said you are wrong in your statement.

There has actually been oil produced from PreCambrian metamorphic rocks. Crystalline basement production occurs in places such as Russia, Indonesia and Egypt. This is often used by the abiotic idiots to claim that this proves non-organic orgin of said oils which couldn't be further from the truth. As I've pointed out on the Abiotic Oil thread there is no case where oil recovered from such old rocks has not been geochemically matched with younger organic rich source rocks that are in juxtaposition. In the case of the FSU examples Gold used to go on and on about the "buried hills" as they were called, comprised of crystalline basement rock are in contact with Mesozoic aged, fully mature source rocks. Geochemical signatures from the oils and the source rocks are identical meaning there is no rationale to invoke abiotic origins.
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