[PenultimateManStanding]

http://www.konformist.com/1999/colorado/rhorror1.htm

This is chilling stuff, indeed. Rather convicing in some aspects. Sinister Black Ops.

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'V')ery strong indications have been uncovered showing this was a covert operation utilizing a severely mind controlled subject, Eric Harris, and other more senior operatives in carrying out an incident of murder, mayhem, devastation and madness; engineered to have massive sociological impact on the psyche of the American population and also the world in general.

[OilsNotWell]

If one also looks closely at the Scottish Dunblane schoolchildren massacre, one will find damning evidence of child sexual abuse by certain police authorities and politicians, how that conveniently eliminated a lot of the 'evidence' while also coinciding with a draconian rewrite of already restrictive gun laws, and a whitewash of evidence...the 100 year secrets law and such.

These are psychop operations, conditioning the viewers to accept what they would not have previously.

9/11, the anthrax letters are also prime examples...

[OilsNotWell]

THe CIA has long been using programmed/abducted subjects to compromise those they wish to control...

[UIUCstudent01]

The kids were made fun of on a daily basis. They had very easy access to guns. They were two close buddies plotting revenge - they only shot and killed certain kids - for making fun of them. Parents and school administration didn't help them stop the relentless teasing. I believe this story.

The other one is just screwed up. There isn't a conspiracy to every tragedy.

(Although, I'm apt to believe that the Anthrax letters were really a threat from someone... as the anthrax was a strain from an actual weapons lab in the United States and not from a homecooked lab.)

(And 911 could have some conspiracy behind it... As the 911 commission did a supposed horrible job explaining things... but I didn't read the report.)

[PenultimateManStanding]

Sure, you could be right. Did you read the article? If you didn't bother, I think that would be telling. If you did, then what do you make of all these matters surrounding the case?

[Texas_T]

For an interesting look at a lot of the bizarre open questions about Columbine, read the chapter on it in the book Everything You Know Is Wrong

[Cola-Is-Petroleum]

That's a very "cool" theory. But with your indulgence, I would like to tell you my own theory on this tragedy:

*The two boys grew up in a culture that has a morbidly freudian infatuation with guns. Look at American movies, TV, comic books etc:

The answer to ones problem is so often a nice, thick , cold, hard gun clutched in one's hand. The sweet release of pulling the trigger! The intoxicating feeling of power as you fire the gun, literally blowing your problems away. Gaze in awe at the Big Man with the gun! The solution to all of lifes problems is only one gun shot away!

*The boys grew up in a culture obssessed with "popularity", status, and "rugged individualism" (aka selfishly putting ones' own interests ahead of any community, 'every man for himself').

*The boys were teased by their peers; they found themselves at the bottom of a competitive and hostile social order, and they resented it.

*The boys probably had there own set of psychological problems which were only aggrevated by there circumstances. And they had access to guns. The only thing that might have been done to these boys to help them with there mental problems probably would have been to give them ritalin or prozac or something, as per the American fetish for pills and anti-depressents.



Now, take the above ingredients and mix together: Psycholigcally troubled, angry teenage boys, with social troubles, media brainwashing, perverse background cultural values, and then put a gun in each of there laps. WHAT DO YOU EXPECT TO HAPPEN?! You don't need an elaborate "Illuminati Jews from the Center of the Earth"-type 'mind control' theory to explain Columbine.

[LadyRuby]

Okay.... first did astronauts really land on the moon, and next did the government instigate columbine. And this is the crowd I'm going along with on peak oil? Hmmmm....

[PenultimateManStanding]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Cola-Is-Petroleum', '
')The only thing that might have been done to these boys to help them with there mental problems probably would have been to give them ritalin or prozac or something, as per the American fetish for pills and anti-depressents.

[ArimoDave]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'D')o not give this drug to children under eighteen

[PenultimateManStanding]

This is no joke. Just do a google search 'eric harris luvox'
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', '
')Eric Harris was taking Luvox
(a Prozac-like drug) at the time of the Littleton murders

by Peter R. Breggin, M.D.

On April 29 the Washington Post confirmed that Eric Harris, the leader in the Littleton tragedy, was taking the psychiatric drug Luvox at the time of the murders. On April 30 the same newspaper published a story quoting expert claims that Luvox is safe and has no association with causing violence. In fact, Luvox and closely related drugs commonly produce manic psychoses, aggression, and other behavioral abnormalities in children and young people.

[PenultimateManStanding]

I went back to reread the konformist piece. There are logical flaws and some pointless silly digressions in it that hurt the basic argument. But there is also enough factual material to at least give one pause. Particularly disturbing is the eyewitness accounts and photographic evidence suggesting that the two kids were not alone in this. It smells of a cover up. Just what was covered up and why is the big mystery.

[0mar]

They didn't aim high

[PenultimateManStanding]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('0mar', 'T')hey didn't aim high

[agni]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('LadyRuby', 'O')kay.... first did astronauts really land on the moon, and next did the government instigate columbine. And this is the crowd I'm going along with on peak oil? Hmmmm....

[PenultimateManStanding]

OK ladyruby and agni, scoff if you like. I read that post at konformist and found it compelling and alarming. So let me ask you a few questions before you go calling it 'tinfoil hat' stuff. You accept peakoil as a given. The elites accepted it finally back in the early 1970's. So they have known for quite awhile the chaos that was coming. They have known that there is no alternative to oil to keep these billions of people alive. Don't you think that they would have some kind of plan, and wouldn't that plan involve controlling the populace in some fashion? Remember that scene in 'Saving Private Ryan' where the German was sinking a knife into the chest of the American G.I. and whispering, 'shhhhhh'? I have come to the conclusion that there are very dark and horrible things happening in the world today and that they never would have happenend if it wasn't for peak oil. Don't be so cavalier, this shit may well be the truth. Did either of you actually read up on this Columbine thing? The link is there.

[Chocky]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'i')n particular information in EARLY news reports from the scene at Columbine that day.

[PhilBiker]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('LadyRuby', 'O')kay.... first did astronauts really land on the moon, and next did the government instigate columbine. And this is the crowd I'm going along with on peak oil? Hmmmm....

[BiGG]

If you buy into any of the crap from that author, this man pictured would like you to contact him for membership into his club. The Tin Foil Hat is not optional here.

[Specop_007]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Cola-Is-Petroleum', 'T')hat's a very "cool" theory. But with your indulgence, I would like to tell you my own theory on this tragedy:

*The two boys grew up in a culture that has a morbidly freudian infatuation with guns. Look at American movies, TV, comic books etc:

The answer to ones problem is so often a nice, thick , cold, hard gun clutched in one's hand. The sweet release of pulling the trigger! The intoxicating feeling of power as you fire the gun, literally blowing your problems away. Gaze in awe at the Big Man with the gun! The solution to all of lifes problems is only one gun shot away!

*The boys grew up in a culture obssessed with "popularity", status, and "rugged individualism" (aka selfishly putting ones' own interests ahead of any community, 'every man for himself').

*The boys were teased by their peers; they found themselves at the bottom of a competitive and hostile social order, and they resented it.

*The boys probably had there own set of psychological problems which were only aggrevated by there circumstances. And they had access to guns. The only thing that might have been done to these boys to help them with there mental problems probably would have been to give them ritalin or prozac or something, as per the American fetish for pills and anti-depressents.



Now, take the above ingredients and mix together: Psycholigcally troubled, angry teenage boys, with social troubles, media brainwashing, perverse background cultural values, and then put a gun in each of there laps. WHAT DO YOU EXPECT TO HAPPEN?! You don't need an elaborate "Illuminati Jews from the Center of the Earth"-type 'mind control' theory to explain Columbine.