Chocky, those were good points you raised. As I posted here before, I also found plenty of flaws in the thesis. However, there's good reason why 83% of the people polled did not think the two boys acted alone. You say well of course the early accounts and the later accounts will vary. Really? What about the guy led away in handcuffs and nothing more was heard about it? What about the eyewitness accounts of these others, like the 'ugly guy with the bushy eyebrows?' Something very suspicious about this whole thing.
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What it is ain't exactly clear
There's a man with a gun over there
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I think it's time we stop, children, what's that sound
Everybody look what's going down
There's battle lines being drawn
Nobody's right if everybody's wrong
Young people speaking their minds
Getting so much resistance from behind
I think it's time we stop, hey, what's that sound
Everybody look what's going down
What a field-day for the heat
A thousand people in the street
Singing songs and carrying signs
Mostly say, hooray for our side
It's time we stop, hey, what's that sound
Everybody look what's going down
Paranoia strikes deep
Into your life it will creep
It starts when you're always afraid
You step out of line, the man come and take you away
We better stop, hey, what's that sound
Everybody look what's going down
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Everybody look what's going down
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by PenultimateManStanding » Thu 23 Jun 2005, 13:34:42
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by LadyRuby » Thu 23 Jun 2005, 13:52:28
Penultimate man said:
[CODE]There's something happening here
What it is ain't exactly clear
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Keep on keeping on, Penultimate man. I can't say I agree with you, but you keep life interesting if nothing else!
[CODE]There's something happening here
What it is ain't exactly clear
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Keep on keeping on, Penultimate man. I can't say I agree with you, but you keep life interesting if nothing else!
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by shakespear1 » Thu 23 Jun 2005, 13:54:37
In the 80's it was
Police type sytcoms. Message: Criminals are everywhere
Assasinations: Message: Evil forces everywhere
Military Buildup: Message: You are not safe, we need more missiles
Drug War: Message: We can win this war which is an asult on our kids
In the 90's
Kids Blowing each other: Message: You can not be safe anywhere, even school
More Prisons: Message: Criminals in jail = Your safe
Car Alarms/House Alarms Message: You need more safety as you are not safe enough
I am sure you guys can fill in, but the picture is fairly clear.
We need the nation to chill out, sit on the couch etc. That grass they made illegal could have helped. We are not in a good shape in the psychi.
I remember in the 70's how relaxed American's were, but the same is not true today. Long hair can start the weird glances today.
Police type sytcoms. Message: Criminals are everywhere
Assasinations: Message: Evil forces everywhere
Military Buildup: Message: You are not safe, we need more missiles
Drug War: Message: We can win this war which is an asult on our kids
In the 90's
Kids Blowing each other: Message: You can not be safe anywhere, even school
More Prisons: Message: Criminals in jail = Your safe
Car Alarms/House Alarms Message: You need more safety as you are not safe enough
I am sure you guys can fill in, but the picture is fairly clear.
We need the nation to chill out, sit on the couch etc. That grass they made illegal could have helped. We are not in a good shape in the psychi.
I remember in the 70's how relaxed American's were, but the same is not true today. Long hair can start the weird glances today.
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by Chicken_Little » Thu 23 Jun 2005, 21:50:18
There's a more interesting line of enquiry than the obvious rubbish posted at konformist.
At least one of the killers was on Prozac or Prozac equivalent.
It's not the first time that people taking this drug have exhibited psychotic or suicidal behaviour and i think we'll find that the colossal amount of prescription drugs Americans take has a lot to do with incidents like this one.
At least one of the killers was on Prozac or Prozac equivalent.
It's not the first time that people taking this drug have exhibited psychotic or suicidal behaviour and i think we'll find that the colossal amount of prescription drugs Americans take has a lot to do with incidents like this one.
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by smallpoxgirl » Thu 23 Jun 2005, 22:14:01
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Chicken_Little', 'I')t's not the first time that people taking this drug have exhibited psychotic or suicidal behaviour
We give them to people when they're depressed. Of course prozac users are more likely to have mental problems. That's why they're on prozac.
The SSRI-suicide conection is, IMHO, just another case of baseless political fearmongering by none other than the repugnant and spineless senator from New York, Charles Schumer.
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by Chicken_Little » Thu 23 Jun 2005, 22:33:50
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('smallpoxgirl', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Chicken_Little', 'I')t's not the first time that people taking this drug have exhibited psychotic or suicidal behaviour
We give them to people when they're depressed. Of course prozac users are more likely to have mental problems. That's why they're on prozac.
The SSRI-suicide conection is, IMHO, just another case of baseless political fearmongering by none other than the repugnant and spineless senator from New York, Charles Schumer.
Thank you for your explanation that Prozac is given to people who are depressed.
The point being made here is that anecdotal evidence from users suggests that, all things being equal, Prozac causes a susceptible percentage of depressed users, who would not otherwise have done so, to behave suicidally and/or homicidally in a subjectively uncontrollable manner, i.e. it induces a psychotic state in these users.
This can't be scientifically proved yet, but i think it will be.
Don't know who the hell Charles Schumer is, since i'm not from the Fourth Reich myself.
You seem a little defensive about Prozac - you're a pill popper yourself?
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by PenultimateManStanding » Thu 23 Jun 2005, 22:39:04
Not prozac, luvox. I get the impression that someone was sleeping during the lecture! Konformist certainly isn't the only place to look at for this. I'll bet there are others who have found this case to have more to it than the 'official' version. And we here know better than to go along with the sheeple on everything.
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by Chicken_Little » Thu 23 Jun 2005, 22:44:28
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('PenultimateManStanding', 'N')ot prozac, luvox. I get the impression that someone was sleeping during the lecture! Konformist certainly isn't the only place to look at for this. I'll bet there are others who have found this case to have more to it than the 'official' version. And we here know better than to go along with the sheeple on everything.
Don't patronise me. I said Prozac or Prozac equivalent.
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'L')uvox is a Selective Serotonin Reuptake Inhibitor (SSRI) that is approved for children and youth (up to age 17) for use in the treatment of obsessive compulsive disorder. However, doctors often give it for depression, since it is in the same SSRI class as Prozac, Zoloft, and Paxil.
According to the manufacturer, Solvay, 4% of children and youth taking Luvox developed mania during short-term controlled clinical trials. Mania is a psychosis which can produce bizarre, grandiose, highly elaborated destructive plans, including mass murder. Interestingly, in a recent controlled clinical trial, Prozac produced mania in the same age group at a rate of 6%. These are very high rates for drug-induced mania--much higher than those produced in adults. Yet the risk will be even higher during long-term clinical use where medical supervision, as in the case of Harris, is much more lax than in controlled clinical trials. These drugs also produce irritability, aggression or hostility, alienation, agitation, and loss of empathy.
edit to add - ok, say i buy your case that the gub'mint was secretly behind the columbine tragedy - what's in it for them? wouldn't the government have been able to build bombs that actually exploded or train the killers to build reliable bombs? how do you explain all the videos the killers made? Who benefitted from the tragedy?
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