$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Newfie', 'P')lant,
You are right that the US is not Europe and that our long distance train service pathetic.
None of that explains how or why HSR could work in the US.
If there was a capitalist reason for its existence, then I suppose the market would have driven it.
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How The Northeast Could Cut Carbon Pollution By 75 Percent
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Re: How The Northeast Could Cut Carbon Pollution By 75 Perce
by Plantagenet » Sat 08 Feb 2014, 20:01:12
Newfie,
Infrastructure development isn't the job of the private sector---its the responsibility of government. The lack of HSR in the USA isn't due to a problem with "capitalism" or "the market"....its a failure of our state and federal governments. Look at our current administration----O promised to build HSR and then reneged on his promise, pushing these needed infrastructure improvements back for at least another 8 years.
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Newfie', 'H')SR has been more generally promoted in socialist countries such as France and Spain
France and Spain aren't "socialist" countries. They are capitalist countries.
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Newfie', 'I') get that you rode HSR and liked the experience. I can understand that.
How, exactly, do you think it will solve any of our current problems?
Isn't that obvious? I'm surprised you'd even ask that.
The title of this thread is "How The Northeast Could Cut Carbon Pollution By 75 Percent" Getting Americans out of their cars and onto light rail and HSR and other forms of mass transit would help cut CO2 use.
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Re: How The Northeast Could Cut Carbon Pollution By 75 Perce
by Newfie » Sat 08 Feb 2014, 21:43:58
So, how exactly is HSR "mass transit"?
I suppose then you are in favor of using public domain to condem private property for the public good? On a massive scale never before seen in the US?
You also are in favor of sharp tax increases to fund these public works projects?
Let's start simple, what are the two HSR corridors you would build first, what are there rider ships, what are there budgets, what is your timeline?
In short, scope, schedule, budget?
I suppose then you are in favor of using public domain to condem private property for the public good? On a massive scale never before seen in the US?
You also are in favor of sharp tax increases to fund these public works projects?
Let's start simple, what are the two HSR corridors you would build first, what are there rider ships, what are there budgets, what is your timeline?
In short, scope, schedule, budget?
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Re: How The Northeast Could Cut Carbon Pollution By 75 Perce
by Plantagenet » Sat 08 Feb 2014, 21:59:32
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Newfie', 'S')o, how exactly is HSR "mass transit"?
Mass transit is generally defined as "public transportation," especially but not exclusively in urban areas. In the case of HSR, the idea is that instead of Americans getting into their cars to drive between, say, Philly and DC (cars are private transportation) they would take one of Philly's rickety old trolleys downtown to the slightly downmarket train station you've got there, get on a HS train, and get off in downtown DC at beautiful upmarket Union Station.
Using mass transit to travel between Philly and DC would be quicker, use less oil, and produce less CO2 then people firing up their private vehicles and all individually driving down.
Get it now?
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