by Oneaboveall » Mon 14 Oct 2013, 20:15:07
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Sixstrings', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', '[')b]Obama "Leave town," 'Put the Quran down' orders Rallier, Sarah Palin,Ted Cruz in attendance
Washington (CNN) - Angered by the closure of national landmarks due to the partial government shutdown, a crowd of conservatives removed barricades Sunday at the World War II Memorial and the Lincoln Memorial as they rallied against President Barack Obama and Democrats for their role in the ongoing stalemate.
High-profile speakers with close ties to the tea party appeared at the event, including former Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin and Sen. Ted Cruz of Texas.The rally, billed as the "Million Vet March on the Memorials," drew far fewer than a million people and evolved into a protest that resembled familiar tea party events from 2009, with yellow "Don't Tread On Me" flags throughout the crowd and strong anti-Obama language from the podium and the audience.
One speaker went as far as saying the president was a Muslim and separately urged the crowd of hundreds to initiate a peaceful uprising."I call upon all of you to wage a second American nonviolent revolution, to use civil disobedience, and to demand that this president leave town, to get up, to put the Quran down, to get up off his knees, and to figuratively come out with his hands up," said Larry Klayman of Freedom Watch, a conservative political advocacy group.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qSmjEJOoYBgThat is just OUTRAGEOUS:
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demand that this president leave town, to get up, to put the Quran down, to get up off his knees, and to figuratively come out with his hands up"
Jesus H. Christ, you Republicans are crazy. And you're fomenting some hard core hate and violent talk.
CNN is reporting on this, Ted Cruz spoke just before that Freedom Watch guy, standing right next to him. I can't find a video of what Cruz said, it was some nonsense and he hands the mic over to this nut, standing right by him.
Outrageous.
Sorry for the long quote, but while I applaud people who are willing to protest against perceived injustice, I can't help noticing that these people were completely absent when Bush was wiping his butt with the Constitution. Where were they then? I bet they were pulling Chris Hedges off the podium and doing other things to silence dissent. Now that President Avenging Disco Godfather is in the oval office, they are suddenly concerned about their rights.
When the banksters want something, our policymakers move with the speed of Mercury and the determination of Ares. It’s only when the rest of us need something that there is paralysis.
How free are we today with the dominance of globalist capital and militarized security apparatus?
by Oneaboveall » Mon 14 Oct 2013, 20:52:21
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Sixstrings', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('SeaGypsy', '[')b]Obama does have a problem with getting in bed with radical Islamists- has given them and the far right plenty of ammo.
Et tu, Brutus?
"obama is a radical muslim?"
Are you serious?
I won't even argue this with you, i don't want to push you further into such wingnuttery just because you want to disagree with me.
When the banksters want something, our policymakers move with the speed of Mercury and the determination of Ares. It’s only when the rest of us need something that there is paralysis.
How free are we today with the dominance of globalist capital and militarized security apparatus?
by Sixstrings » Tue 15 Oct 2013, 10:38:05
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Plantagenet', 'W')hy? Neither McCain nor Graham have anything to do with setting Obama administration policy.
Senators McCain & Graham: “Just supplying weapons to Syrian rebels isn’t enough!”http://thelibertarianrepublic.com/senators-mccain-graham-just-supplying-weapons-to-syrian-rebels-isnt-enough/#axzz2hnhceCiqJohn McCain: Syrian Rebels Need Our Helphttp://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/06/17/john-mccain-syrian-rebels_n_1603576.html$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'H')eres how the funding for Syria actually works---Congress appropriates money to the CIA.
The President is then free to set US foreign policy and direct the CIA to spend the money in accordance with his priorities.
Uh, no, there is congressional oversight, by several committees.
I don't want to get out in the weeds on this but I'm tellin ya, the congressional national security republicans not only approved the rebel funding as I just linked above, they wanted Obama to go farther.
Republican John McCain has been hounding Obama for years now, pressuring him to give more aid to Syrian rebels. These are just facts, Plant, I'm sorry. You're pulling a shutdown switcheroo thing here, like Repubs shut down gov then it's Obama fault, same thing with Syria he very slowly agrees to Republican pressure to aid the rebels and now you blame him for it.
This is from 2012, Republicans pressuring Obama to do more to aid the rebels:
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'W')ASHINGTON —
Sen. John McCain on Sunday characterized the lack of U.S. aid to Syrian rebels as "shameful" and said helping their cause would deal "the greatest blow to Iran in the Middle East in 25 years."
McCain's remarks
sought to maintain political pressure on President Barack Obama as violence in the region escalated, forcing a 300-strong U.N. observer mission to call off its patrols.
I actually agree with John McCain and Lindsay Graham. Obama needed to be doing more sooner. It's all a complicated mess over there but we're stil responsible when all our allies are looking to us saying wtf you've got to do something shit's hitting the fan over here on our border, then we've got to lead and do something.
Either the US is in charge over there in the middle east or we're not. We've got a bunch of allies depending on us we can't just sit back and ignore it. All you totally anti-war types, you could never be satisfied unless the US abandoned Israel and Saudi Arabia and qatar and Turkey and every ally we have over there.
Just pull out, Atlas shrugs, let the Russians have it. And then some other foreign power has all that oil if push comes to shove one day, or even worse a caliphate DOES rise and take over the region all because we listened to you and SeaGypsy and we abandoned it.Let's not get into this, there's already a mideast thread. But DON'T put this on Obama, he hasn't done enough on Syria and that has been the Republican criticism (the old school Republicans anyway, who the hell knows what Rand Paul really thinks and Ted Cruz reads Dr. Seuss books on the senate floor).
And another thing..
You know what world governments respect? You want to know what really backs up the US dollar, and why our bonds are the global go-to? It's American power, world's only superpower, power to keep stability in the world and the decisiveness to do it. Some Iraq rolls into some Kuwait and we're there to do something about that, when nobody else would.
It's US power, and *political stability* that give that "full faith" to our bonds and dollar.
Plant, if you want the US to just pull back then wtf would we do with this massive military. We'd have to cut it by 3/4, there's no use for a global superpower military if you don't want to be global superpower anymore. You think Republicans would go for that, cutting all that military industrial complex? Even Rand Paul loves his army bases:
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'P')aul brushed off that suggestion during his interview with Blitzer, pointing to military bases on Kentucky soil as the primary recipient of federal funds.
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What does he want to do, shut down military bases in Kentucky?" Paul asked.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/07/30/rand-paul-chris-christie-bacon_n_3679476.html 
