[SeaGypsy]

Well said Pstarr. I was one of very few (1?) defenders of shorty's right to a degree of what be perceived as trollery from time to time, back in the day when he was still using that ID. His rants were entertaining at times, sometimes irritating. A little irritation goes a long way.

I think the above slip by Econo is a dead giveaway for Mod evasion, even failing to answer the question as put by Tanada is a form of evasion. I have lost count how many incarnations shorty has been alleged to have had around here. Each one he seems to make a degree of effort to change the style a bit, to spin a slightly different flavour of bull, but the meme remains constant. Now his ego has got the better of him.

Recently I called him out (as he has been called out many many times before), on a post bragging in a very pubescent fashion of being an expert with knowledge of US oil sufficient to push peak out "100 years". Clearly he has become envious of the attention garnered here by ROCKMAN (through his very rare combination of insider expertise, good humour and way with words) and has decided to try on his 'expert' cap. Less than a dozen brief posts in since then, he trips himself up, as evident above. Is he a paid shill? A robot in training? An immature corny with too much spare time?

[John_A]

I would disagree. Shorty's style wasn't ridiculous like Econ's. Sure he seemed to argue everyone, about almost anything, but he didn't make ridiculous, oil will save the world through the abundance of whatever arguments, more like that it wouldn't cause collapse, fast or slow, and other things would happen. Econ is just too overboard ignorant, and Shorty doesn't read as ignorant.

[SeaGypsy]

Vision Master seems to be the quickest to grok the disguise in the various suspected incarnations. How many have there been VM? I think if you look back at Econo-shorty's posts, you will find a strange mix of data intense analysis (@ senior high level @ least ) along with the inane and snide style developed over several years, several life bannings. Like Gollum he both hates the ring but can't part himself even as he finds himself degrading into a ghoul.

[ROCKMAN]

SeaGypsy – “Is he a paid shill?” What!!! You mean someone might pay me to post where? Where do I sign up? Being a petroleum geologist obviously I’ll do anything if the money is right. LOL.

Don’t take this wrong…it’s not a criticism. Though I’m not always successful I try to avoid letting the conversation swing towards ad hominine attacks even when they are sooooo richly deserved. I try to make a distinction between facts and opinions. I can be very intolerant of “facts” being posted that are not facts. Opinions, OTOH, are never wrong if they express what a person truly believes. I may agree with them or I may not. Often I’m more interested in opinions than the facts because it gives me some insight into how the general population is viewing matters.

[Econ101]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('SeaGypsy', 'W')ell said Pstarr. I was one of very few (1?) defenders of shorty's right to a degree of what be perceived as trollery from time to time, back in the day when he was still using that ID. His rants were entertaining at times, sometimes irritating. A little irritation goes a long way.

I think the above slip by Econo is a dead giveaway for Mod evasion, even failing to answer the question as put by Tanada is a form of evasion. I have lost count how many incarnations shorty has been alleged to have had around here. Each one he seems to make a degree of effort to change the style a bit, to spin a slightly different flavour of bull, but the meme remains constant. Now his ego has got the better of him.

Recently I called him out (as he has been called out many many times before), on a post bragging in a very pubescent fashion of being an expert with knowledge of US oil sufficient to push peak out "100 years". Clearly he has become envious of the attention garnered here by ROCKMAN (through his very rare combination of insider expertise, good humour and way with words) and has decided to try on his 'expert' cap. Less than a dozen brief posts in since then, he trips himself up, as evident above. Is he a paid shill? A robot in training? An immature corny with too much spare time?

[Econ101]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Tanada', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Econ101', 'A')s I have been stating for over a year now the impact of the oil shales will be to return oil pricing to a price competitive model made possible by increasing supplies. Peak oil politics limited supply and made a supply competitive model possible. This model assures us of the highest possible price and limited supply. A price competitive model assures us of reliable supplies and competitive price, as it was prior to the 1970s and the advent of peak oil politics.

This is currently the headline on MSN-MONEY:

US OIL OUTPUT BOOM SETS OFF WORLD-WIDE SUPPLY SHOCK:

Rising production will help meet most nations' demand in the next 5 years, even if the global economy picks up, leaving little room for OPEC to lift output without risking lower prices, the IEA says.

[Pops]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'I')f there be time to expose through discussion the falsehood and fallacies, to avert the evil by the processes of education, the remedy to be applied is more speech, not enforced silence.
--JUSTICE BRANDEIS 1927

[Econ101]

I think what we are seeing today: 1) Politically expedient bengazi lies permeating our government for political gain 2) in a politically fascist style the government seizing AP phone records 3) Government using the IRS to silence political enemies and now the information coming out that the EPA is showing the same type of discrimination that the IRS was showing causes one to wonder about the accuracy of your statements pstarr. Also the unimaginable amount of oil we now know are in the shales dont need a political shill.

Peak oil politics is the real shill. It is holding back production in the US right now. We wouldnt even need the shales yet but peak oil politics has delivered this gift from God just in the nick of time.

[radon]

Politically political policies of politicized politicians. SOS=shortonsense? Hardly.

[John_A]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Econ101', '
')I dont know who shorty is. Trollery?

[SeaGypsy]

SOS=Shortonsense=Shorty.

[Econ101]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('pstarr', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('SeaGypsy', 'S')OS=Shortonsense=Shorty.

[SeaGypsy]

What is the point of climate or weather forecasting? Economic forecasting? Education or family planning? Checking the woodpile before winter sets in? The point is basic due diligence.

[ROCKMAN]

"For instance he is mistaken, in a large part, about the connection between price and production activities. He says production is dependant on price. I say not, not in the main"

And I will defend to the death anyone else who holds to the opinion that production isn't dependent upon price even when every oil patchv professional I've ever known for the last 38 would disagree.

[SeaGypsy]

That point demands some elaboration Rockman. Say Iran agreed to total oversight and the Arab Spring miraculously ended with peaceful regimes- thereby releasing up to 20% more oil to market; what happens to the US shale oil game? What about the money printing game hits a wall and a bank rush occurs- destroying demand overnight? Price may not end production, but it influences specific well viability in a pretty major way.

[dolanbaker]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', '&')quot;For instance he is mistaken, in a large part, about the connection between price and production activities. He says production is dependant on price. I say not, not in the main"

[Econ101]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('SeaGypsy', 'W')hat is the point of climate or weather forecasting? Economic forecasting? Education or family planning? Checking the woodpile before winter sets in? The point is basic due diligence.

[Econ101]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('ROCKMAN', '&')quot;For instance he is mistaken, in a large part, about the connection between price and production activities. He says production is dependant on price. I say not, not in the main"

And I will defend to the death anyone else who holds to the opinion that production isn't dependent upon price even when every oil patchv professional I've ever known for the last 38 would disagree.