[AgentR11]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Plantagenet', 'T')hey were all just pretending to fix a problem that didn't exist?

[vtsnowedin]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('AgentR11', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Plantagenet', 'T')hey were all just pretending to fix a problem that didn't exist?

[Outcast_Searcher]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('vtsnowedin', '
')Do you recall the ford" Pinto" with the drop in rear fill gas tank? The top of the tank served as the floor of the trunk with just a piece of carpet over it and the filler pipe rose up from the tank and out the center rear to get it above the number plate. In a rear end crash the filler pipe would rip out of the tank as it got pushed forward splashing gas over the back of the rear seat mounting that was not a solid sheet of steel.

[JRP3]

So exactly how would less government oversight have made the Ford Pinto situation better? No one is suggesting that governmental oversight is going to be perfect, but it's a hell of a lot better than letting businesses just do as they please with little to no consequences.
AgentR11 summed it up pretty well, it's better to "fix" a problem that doesn't really exist outside the lab than try to fight the FUD. There are always means to improve a product and make it safer, but there is also no way to make anything perfectly safe, especially not the ICE's we drive around in every day with a flammable liquid inside a thin sheet metal tank. I'm much more nervous when filling my gas tank than plugging in my EV.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ufcQd1qoDAs

[Outcast_Searcher]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('JRP3', 'S')o exactly how would less government oversight have made the Ford Pinto situation better? No one is suggesting that governmental oversight is going to be perfect, but it's a hell of a lot better than letting businesses just do as they please with little to no consequences.

[JRP3]

Pretty much everything you mentioned is directly related to a REDUCTION in governmental regulation and control, yet of course you fail to see that. Unregulated business will do whatever they can get away with, including dumping their toxic wastes into our food and water supplies, as long as it maximizes profits.

[Outcast_Searcher]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('JRP3', 'S')o exactly how would less government oversight have made the Ford Pinto situation better?

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There are always means to improve a product and make it safer, but there is also no way to make anything perfectly safe, especially not the ICE's we drive around in every day with a flammable liquid inside a thin sheet metal tank. I'm much more nervous when filling my gas tank than plugging in my EV.

[Plantagenet]

Pentagon is buying VOLTS from general motors

Pentagon buying Chevy Volts

The Chevy Volts are very lightweight, but they still can only go about 35 miles on a charge-----once the Pentagon puts body armor on them, they'll probably only be able to run for a few minutes and go a couple of a miles.


Hope that Chevy Volt had body armor....

[seenmostofit]

I haven't put body armor on mine. Got 43 miles out of one charge though. Winter #1 coming up, we'll see how much cold affects range.

[Plantagenet]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('seenmostofit', 'I') haven't put body armor on mine. Got 43 miles out of one charge though. Winter #1 coming up, we'll see how much cold affects range.

[seenmostofit]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Plantagenet', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('seenmostofit', 'I') haven't put body armor on mine. Got 43 miles out of one charge though. Winter #1 coming up, we'll see how much cold affects range.

[Keith_McClary]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('seenmostofit', 'I') haven't put body armor on mine.

[Blacksmith]

Great buy! Where else can you get a car that costs $75,000 to make for a list price of $45,000. Get yourself a part of that bailout from Government Motors.

[seenmostofit]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Blacksmith', 'G')reat buy! Where else can you get a car that costs $75,000 to make for a list price of $45,000. Get yourself a part of that bailout from Government Motors.

[Subjectivist]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'N')eck and neck, the rivalry continues in 2014

2013 is over and the numbers are in, so we now know how many Volt plug-in hybrids and how many LEAF (LEAVES?) electric cars were sold. The LEAF made a valiant effort to grab the #1 spot, more than doubling its sales from 2012 (9,819) and reaching a final number of 22,610 for 2013.
Unfortunately for Nissan, that wasn't enough to catch the Chevrolet Volt. While the Volt didn't see the LEAF's growth in 2013, it still sold more with a final tally of 23,094 for the year.

In December, the LEAF had its best month ever with 2,529 units sold versus the 2,392 units of the Volt. This could be a sign that 2014 will be the year of the LEAF, at least in this particular rivalry. Tesla is aiming to sell about 40,000 electric cars during the year, so both GM and Nissan will have to significantly increase production and sales to keep up.

[Tanada]

I can still remember the optimism and joy I felt when the Chevy Volt was first announced. I have an old Civic I drive and had just paid it off, when I heard about the Volt I planned on continuing to make the same 'car payments' into a special savings account so that when it came time to buy a new car I would have a great down payment to put on it when my civic died. Well between the fact that I got divorced and my civic is still running that never happened and given the way the Volt turned out compared to the way I expected it to turn out I suppose it is just as well i didn't buy one and waste all that money on car payments that I have avoided with my now 14 year old Honda.