Gated-HOAs are the perfect metaphor and living place for post-Bill of Rights, post-9/11, post-Citizen United, post Homeland Security, post "Kelo v. City of New London" America.
Where "evil" elected government has been replaced by "virtuous" unelected corporate government and where you have no pointless rights to free speech or freedom of association or property rights and where you get to have the illusion of security while having no security or freedom.
Where Americans have devolved into chickensh*t Eloi willing to be molested in airports and hunker down in gated communities because they are worried about brown people in the Middle East or from outside their gates.
Because Big Brother, err... Big CEO knows better than you.
Its getting harder to avoid HOAs... I was lucky to find a house not in one.
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Homeowners could be sued in Trayvon Martin case
Re: Homeowners could be sued in Trayvon Martin case
by rangerone314 » Fri 30 Mar 2012, 17:40:30
An ideology is by definition not a search for TRUTH-but a search for PROOF that its point of view is right
Equals barter and negotiate-people with power just take
You cant defend freedom by eliminating it-unknown
Our elected reps should wear sponsor patches on their suits so we know who they represent-like Nascar-Roy
Equals barter and negotiate-people with power just take
You cant defend freedom by eliminating it-unknown
Our elected reps should wear sponsor patches on their suits so we know who they represent-like Nascar-Roy
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Re: Homeowners could be sued in Trayvon Martin case
by AgentR11 » Fri 30 Mar 2012, 17:49:16
HOA's are trivial to avoid.
a) Greetings Mr. Realtor, I'd like you to be my buyers agent.
r) Cool, what you looking for.
a) A House about y big no more than x-odd dollars. I will not close if there is a HOA involved. No exceptions.
r) Cool, when you want to go visit some?
Now, if you're looking for a HOA pretty neighborhood without a HOA, you'll likely be out of luck; they do offer real features, but you have to play by their rules. Personally, I found that intolerable. So I have no HOA to answer to, but I also have a neighbor with an ancient car on blocks in his driveway, and there might even be a couple folks even less interested in lawn care than me.
a) Greetings Mr. Realtor, I'd like you to be my buyers agent.
r) Cool, what you looking for.
a) A House about y big no more than x-odd dollars. I will not close if there is a HOA involved. No exceptions.
r) Cool, when you want to go visit some?
Now, if you're looking for a HOA pretty neighborhood without a HOA, you'll likely be out of luck; they do offer real features, but you have to play by their rules. Personally, I found that intolerable. So I have no HOA to answer to, but I also have a neighbor with an ancient car on blocks in his driveway, and there might even be a couple folks even less interested in lawn care than me.
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Re: Homeowners could be sued in Trayvon Martin case
by Oneaboveall » Fri 30 Mar 2012, 17:55:53
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('AgentR11', 'A')s to NRA, guns, alcohol. How bout I one up you. No guns where alcohol is served...
Funny that the "Wild West" was invoked here, because that's how it used to be in the West. Dodge City had only about 15 homicide deaths in 10 years because the local Lawman would confiscate guns before cowboys went into the saloons and lock them up in the Sheriff's office until they were heading out of town. Whether this is an argument for gun control or an argument for "responsible gun-ownership" is up to you.
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How free are we today with the dominance of globalist capital and militarized security apparatus?
How free are we today with the dominance of globalist capital and militarized security apparatus?
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Re: Homeowners could be sued in Trayvon Martin case
by AgentR11 » Fri 30 Mar 2012, 17:57:12
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('rangerone314', 'W')hat prevents a criminal in Florida from stalking someone until there are no witnesses around, and then shooting them, planting a knife on their corpse and claiming self-defense and getting away with murder?
You assert this as if there would be a problem pulling it off in most states. If there's no witnesses, its your story plus physical evidence. Comes down to whether the prosecutor and later jury believe you or not.
In Fl, with Zimmerman, it appears the authorities were inclined to believe Zimmerman, and there may be some modest physical evidence that lines up on his side. Not sure the result would be much different in most states, even if the wording and law sited would be different.
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Re: Homeowners could be sued in Trayvon Martin case
by Cog » Fri 30 Mar 2012, 18:11:59
Tawana Brawley and the Duke lacrosse team. Ring any bells on the rush to judgment?
White guy shoots a black kid and the media and members of this board go bat-shit crazy. There will be numerous killings of black kids tonight by other black kids over some drug turf. Where is the outrage over that?
Yeah just what I figured.
White guy shoots a black kid and the media and members of this board go bat-shit crazy. There will be numerous killings of black kids tonight by other black kids over some drug turf. Where is the outrage over that?
Yeah just what I figured.
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Re: Homeowners could be sued in Trayvon Martin case
by Plantagenet » Fri 30 Mar 2012, 18:24:04
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Pops', '
')I really do believe CCW are a deterrent to some extent. But I also think think the High Noon laws encourage exactly this situation and I can't see any positive effect.
')I really do believe CCW are a deterrent to some extent. But I also think think the High Noon laws encourage exactly this situation and I can't see any positive effect.
I don't see how the fact that Mr. Zimmerman had a concealed carry permit "encouraged" Mr. Travon to attack him.
Mr. Travon already had shown that he liked to attack people. Before his unfortunate demise, Travon often tweeted about what a bad N-word he was. Travon even boasted that he had "swung on" a bus driver-----and you can't get much lower than the kind of dopes who punch out their neighborhood bus drivers and then run off the bus, IMHO.
I think in the Zimmerman case Mr. Travon "swung on" the wrong person----he attacked someone with a CCW.
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Re: Homeowners could be sued in Trayvon Martin case
by rangerone314 » Fri 30 Mar 2012, 18:33:19
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Plantagenet', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Pops', '
')I really do believe CCW are a deterrent to some extent. But I also think think the High Noon laws encourage exactly this situation and I can't see any positive effect.
')I really do believe CCW are a deterrent to some extent. But I also think think the High Noon laws encourage exactly this situation and I can't see any positive effect.
I don't see how the fact that Mr. Zimmerman had a concealed carry permit "encouraged" Mr. Travon to attack him.
Mr. Travon already had shown that he liked to attack people. Before his unfortunate demise, Travon often tweeted about what a bad N-word he was. Travon even boasted that he had "swung on" a bus driver-----and you can't get much lower than the kind of dopes who punch out their neighborhood bus drivers and then run off the bus, IMHO.
I think in the Zimmerman case Mr. Travon "swung on" the wrong person----he attacked someone with a CCW.
They both sound like @$$4013$ to me. I always wondered what would happen if two of them met each other.
I guess we found out what happens when one @$$4013 with an alligator mouth writes a check that his hummingbird ass can't cash and the other @$$4013 who has a gun bounces it.
An ideology is by definition not a search for TRUTH-but a search for PROOF that its point of view is right
Equals barter and negotiate-people with power just take
You cant defend freedom by eliminating it-unknown
Our elected reps should wear sponsor patches on their suits so we know who they represent-like Nascar-Roy
Equals barter and negotiate-people with power just take
You cant defend freedom by eliminating it-unknown
Our elected reps should wear sponsor patches on their suits so we know who they represent-like Nascar-Roy
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