[SeaGypsy]

How come Canada and Finland have similar gun ownership and cultural violence in the form of screen entertainments, yet kill each other 10 times less than Americans?

[Cloud9]

We have a sub culture that has idealized gangsters.

[Umber]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Cloud9', 'W')e have a sub culture that has idealized gangsters.

[Pretorian]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('SeaGypsy', 'H')ow come Canada and Finland have similar gun ownership and cultural violence in the form of screen entertainments, yet kill each other 10 times less than Americans?

[dinopello]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Pretorian', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Cloud9', 'W')e have a sub culture that has idealized gangsters.

[Cloud9]

A specific brand of the entertainment industry has set the moral codes for a sizable minority of our population. Wannabes all over the country don gangster attire and flash their gang signs. They adorn themselves with tats, refer to their girl friends as hoes and congratulate themselves on being pimps. They glorify gang activity and relish mob violence. Fights in school are many times no longer mono el mono. These fights oftentimes exhibit a level of rage and violence that is difficult to believe. It is clear to anyone who wants to look at the videos that these kids are trying to kill or hospitalize their victims. A number of my former students are either in the ground or in prison for ever and it is the direct result of them trying to live out a movie script.

So the crowd that has capitalized this brand may delude themselves by saying what they are spewing out is entertainment, but for a lot of these kids it is real life.

[rangerone314]

If Bieber went to prison, he'd be married off pretty quickly.

[AgentR11]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Cloud9', 'T')hese fights oftentimes exhibit a level of rage and violence that is difficult to believe. It is clear to anyone who wants to look at the videos that these kids are trying to kill or hospitalize their victims.

[rangerone314]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('AgentR11', 'W')e have but a thin veneer of civilization and culture between our modern selves, and what we are naturally. Unfortunately for all who'd prefer to live quietly and peacefully; this veneer does not stand up well to hard use, and at the moment, the forces of our culture and situation are going at it with sledgehammers.

[AgentR11]

Nah, when its gone, its gone, no need to get anxious about it ahead of time. None of us Internet Keyboard Commanders get much (if any) say in the matter.

As to which group? That was decided at the moment of our birth.

[Pretorian]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('AgentR11', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Cloud9', 'T')hese fights oftentimes exhibit a level of rage and violence that is difficult to believe. It is clear to anyone who wants to look at the videos that these kids are trying to kill or hospitalize their victims.

[rangerone314]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('AgentR11', 'N')ah, when its gone, its gone, no need to get anxious about it ahead of time. None of us Internet Keyboard Commanders get much (if any) say in the matter.

As to which group? That was decided at the moment of our birth.

[AgentR11]

I was thinking more along the lines of class and intellect.

[rangerone314]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('AgentR11', 'I') was thinking more along the lines of class and intellect.

[Serial_Worrier]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('pstarr', 'A')merican are paranoid idiots when it comes to home security. Mechanical steel gates adjoining unprotected twiggy little woods. Houses lit like Christmas. I laugh at that. I imagine a B&E guy scouting out my neighbors house with his binocs. He can see every path, window, door entry and exit point because the entire property is lit for SALE all the time. Let somebody try something on my darkened private little low-energy compound. I will be stalking them before they even come near the house. I know my land and house. He will be tripping on his own feet.

Anyway, most home invasions, burglaries, and theft are between acquaintances. Home security is mostly a stupid waste of time for paranoid idiots.

[Cloud9]

I have New Yorkers to the North and West of me. They run floods all night. The rest of the area is pretty dark. I find it curious.

[Fiddlerdave]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Pretorian', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('AgentR11', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Cloud9', 'T')hese fights oftentimes exhibit a level of rage and violence that is difficult to believe. It is clear to anyone who wants to look at the videos that these kids are trying to kill or hospitalize their victims.

[Cog]

Not when they act like apes.

[Pretorian]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Fiddlerdave', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Pretorian', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('AgentR11', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Cloud9', 'T')hese fights oftentimes exhibit a level of rage and violence that is difficult to believe. It is clear to anyone who wants to look at the videos that these kids are trying to kill or hospitalize their victims.

[Cloud9]

When you are 18, you have reached the age of consent. When you are 21 you are an adult. The kid was 17.