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2012 Brent Price Challenge

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Re: 2012 Brent Price Challenge

Unread postby SeaGypsy » Mon 06 Feb 2012, 19:08:58

Stockpiling in expectation of Iran blowing up/ sanctions starting to bite.
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Re: 2012 Brent Price Challenge

Unread postby Cog » Tue 07 Feb 2012, 06:45:58

This is obviously a world wide conspiracy to knock me out of first place.
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Re: 2012 Brent Price Challenge

Unread postby SeaGypsy » Tue 07 Feb 2012, 07:11:53

You never know, you are right on the money for top if for some reason it all cooled down again, which it could, maybe, kind of, for a bit, sort of.
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Re: 2012 Brent Price Challenge

Unread postby Pops » Sat 18 Feb 2012, 15:11:19

As of Valentines day.

--Hi--lo--close
--118.73 --108.38--113.30

1 Cog -- $114.00--$107.00--$114.00 = 6.81
2 Pops--$120.00--$100.00--$115.00= 11.35
3 Daniel_Plainview--$122.22 --$99.99--$111.11=14.07
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Re: 2012 Brent Price Challenge

Unread postby Pops » Sat 18 Feb 2012, 16:21:38

Well looks like it's time to test my scientific line drawing skills. The price has "broken out" of my descending economic ceiling. Which means either the economy will stall or I'll eat some crow due to the leaky ceiling.

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Notice though, the lines converge in December...

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Re: 2012 Brent Price Challenge

Unread postby Cog » Sat 18 Feb 2012, 18:02:23

Looks like they converge around $115/bbl.

I should be ok until we start seeing prices around $125/bbl. Then the lead is going change hands quite quickly. I still have the low price working for me for now.

Actually with Brent at $121.35 right now, you might already have taken the lead.
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Re: 2012 Brent Price Challenge

Unread postby Pops » Sat 18 Feb 2012, 18:15:06

Shoulda waited for the EIA to update LOL!
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Re: 2012 Brent Price Challenge

Unread postby dolanbaker » Sun 19 Feb 2012, 03:40:12

I wouldn't worry about the crow, what you didn't take into account was the devaluation of currency by mass printing by the central banks; USD120 this year is worth the same as USD110 was last year.
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Re: 2012 Brent Price Challenge

Unread postby SteinarN » Sun 19 Feb 2012, 10:46:03

Is it to late to enter a prediction here?
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Re: 2012 Brent Price Challenge

Unread postby Pops » Sun 19 Feb 2012, 11:32:32

Naw go ahead, it's just a game.
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Re: 2012 Brent Price Challenge

Unread postby vtsnowedin » Sun 19 Feb 2012, 14:49:14

To fill in your chart I'll go for high 172.25 Low 111.12 and close 142.00 Good chance we have already seen the low for the year.
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Re: 2012 Brent Price Challenge

Unread postby SteinarN » Mon 20 Feb 2012, 05:43:33

Here is my guesses:
Low: 108
High: 137
Close: 131
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Re: 2012 Brent Price Challenge

Unread postby Beery1 » Mon 20 Feb 2012, 12:48:09

Since I missed this one and we're still allowed to chip in, here's mine:

High: 141
Low: 102
Close: 120
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Re: 2012 Brent Price Challenge

Unread postby eXpat » Mon 20 Feb 2012, 12:58:38

I forgot about this, since there´s still time to post here are my guesses

Low: 105
High: 140
Close: 120
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Re: 2012 Brent Price Challenge

Unread postby careinke » Mon 20 Feb 2012, 13:16:27

It looks like most of us are betting that things will calm down and saner heads will prevail. I'm beginning to wonder if we are showing signs of boiled frog syndrome.
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Re: 2012 Brent Price Challenge

Unread postby Pops » Fri 24 Feb 2012, 16:33:16

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('careinke', 'I')t looks like most of us are betting that things will calm down and saner heads will prevail. I'm beginning to wonder if we are showing signs of boiled frog syndrome.

Exactly. I was hoping for a little less wobble but maybe not.

If the close today were to be $125...
Hi...Low...close...overall diff
1..Cog.............$114.00.....$107.00.....$114.00.....13.08
2..Daniel_P.....$122.22 .....$99.99.....$111.11.....13.36
3..Pops........... $120.00.....$100.00.....$115.00 ...15.08

Cog's still ahead with his low & close.
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Re: 2012 Brent Price Challenge

Unread postby dolanbaker » Thu 01 Mar 2012, 17:50:37

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('dolanbaker', 't')ype, high, low, close
Brent 134, 101, 115


I'm beginning to wonder if I bid the high too low! :shock:

It's even worse in Euros, our petrol prices are skyrocketing. :cry:
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Re: 2012 Brent Price Challenge

Unread postby SeaGypsy » Thu 01 Mar 2012, 18:13:57

Looks like a good spread of guesses. A serious run up at this time of year (usually somewhat of a lull) is a worrisome sign, obviously directly related to the ME situation. The rest of the year looks like being a wild race! For the first time I have noted MSM splashing stories about oil burden, Brent/ Tapis/ WTI spread and peak oil in the same article. Pops was onto this very early. It has now become the big thing in economic chatter. Things are changing fast in this regard; at least in Australia.
Is this being talked about in the MSM America?
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Re: 2012 Brent Price Challenge

Unread postby Pops » Thu 01 Mar 2012, 19:59:30

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Cogs still in the lead (alphabetically) with Dolan off our tie by only $0.08.

I should have sorted first on overall diff and next on high diff instead of name - LOL

Actually if you discount the closing price, which obviously changes daily, cog is ahead of me by $1(hi+lo diff column)

The yearly average is almost $115, $4 higher than last year.

I got you late-comers a little light, I'll fix 'er up next time
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Re: 2012 Brent Price Challenge

Unread postby Pops » Fri 16 Mar 2012, 16:05:47

Dolan & Gypsy take over...

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The average price since the beginning of the year...
$117.37/bbl
€89.11/bbl
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And get this, the average price of Brent Crude for the last 365 days...
$114.00/bbl
€86.86/bbl
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Don't forget that the US imports half it's oil and Brent is the gauge to use for floating oil - refiner acquisition costs for January in the US was $107/bbl +/- and the EIA has raised it's forecast to $115/bbl for the year.

Just for comparison, 2008 yearly real average was $95.57 and in 1980 (since the current prevarication is that year oil was really expensive)... in 1980 the real "stripper well*" price was $102.61 average for the year.

*Stripper well prices weren't regulated under the US price controls of the day so reflect better the actual value of oil in the day. Long boring article about price controls from CATO
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