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THE 2012 PO.com Oil Price Challenge

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Re: THE 2012 PO.com Oil Price Challenge

Postby ObiWan » Mon 26 Dec 2011, 22:38:49

How about

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Re: THE 2012 PO.com Oil Price Challenge

Postby Cog » Tue 27 Dec 2011, 12:09:05

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$80 Low
$115 Close
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Re: THE 2012 PO.com Oil Price Challenge

Postby Cog » Thu 29 Dec 2011, 08:25:36

*** Amended prediction***
I've decided to amend by prediction and have decided stability in prices will be the rule for the next year. So here it is.

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Re: THE 2012 PO.com Oil Price Challenge

Postby PeakOiler » Thu 29 Dec 2011, 09:05:20

I changed your guesses, Cog.

I added the other players to the list and we're up to 25, assuming Pops and pup55 play.

There's still room for more players! Come on readers! Throw your dice!
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Re: THE 2012 PO.com Oil Price Challenge

Postby Outcast_Searcher » Sat 31 Dec 2011, 06:34:40

High $137
Low $87
Close $117
Given the track record of the perma-doomer blogs, I wouldn't bet a fast crash doomer's money on their predictions.
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Re: THE 2012 PO.com Oil Price Challenge

Postby PeakOiler » Sat 31 Dec 2011, 08:50:32

The updated spreadsheet:

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I also want to add that I think pup55 should still be the laid back judge of this game. I'm just the scorekeeper. What do you think, pup?
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Re: THE 2012 PO.com Oil Price Challenge

Postby Pops » Sat 31 Dec 2011, 09:20:27

I was happy to see the US economy not crash this year on higher oil prices - stumble (last 2 quarters might as well be recession) but no crash. I think it's not going to get much better because of the oil price but since everyone is treading very carefully, I also think big hiccups aren't likely either. Probably the biggest potential downside would be Republican success in firing half the government.

Oil will start to flow to the GOM from Cushing in the second half, not as much as is needed but enough to get the price closer to Brent. So it boils down to whether the EU can muddle through and will China just continue to cool instead of crash... and of course no GlobalThermoNuclearWar in the Strait!

Overall I think everyone is walking on eggshells, economically speaking (except Achmed) so no big moves - we're in the wedge between non-OECD desire on the downside and OECD Ability to Pay on the upside.

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Re: THE 2012 PO.com Oil Price Challenge

Postby PeakOiler » Sat 31 Dec 2011, 10:38:44

The EIA Short-Term Energy Outlook
http://www.eia.gov/forecasts/steo/uncertainty/

includes a graph of WTI and Brent prices through 2015. (Figure 3)

The source of their info was from Intercontinental Exchange, CME Group.

They project a high of about $101 and a low and closing price of about $98 for WTI. That's a very small range! i.e.: A very conservative estimate.

EIA ended at number 22 in the 2011 Oil Price Challenge "What If" page of my workbook.
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Re: THE 2012 PO.com Oil Price Challenge

Postby AdTheNad » Sat 31 Dec 2011, 11:06:08

This is tricky. Is 2012 the year we see economic collapse dropping the price massively, or a new and bigger arab spring sending prices through the roof? If both happen, the order in which they do will make a huge difference in the price. I think we're a lot better at kicking the economic can than the social unrest can, so up we go, followed by right back down.

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Re: THE 2012 PO.com Oil Price Challenge

Postby careinke » Mon 02 Jan 2012, 00:31:09

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low 84
close 101
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Re: THE 2012 PO.com Oil Price Challenge

Postby SteinarN » Mon 02 Jan 2012, 11:10:32

I've tried to think.....

I bet on the Iran conflict not to escalate too much. Also I bet on a somewhat controlled rewinding in the Euro zone and status quo in the USA for the next twelve months.

Here is my prediction:
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Re: THE 2012 PO.com Oil Price Challenge

Postby PeakOiler » Mon 02 Jan 2012, 15:27:40

There is one week left to make your guesses (or change your guesses) before the deadline.

Here's what I have so far:

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Please check the list to ensure I entered your estimates correctly.

The list is sorted by "Overall" (ascending) without any price data. Markets re-open tomorrow.
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Re: THE 2012 PO.com Oil Price Challenge

Postby lper100km » Mon 02 Jan 2012, 16:26:40

My wag predicated on totally unpredictable events

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Re: THE 2012 PO.com Oil Price Challenge

Postby kublikhan » Mon 02 Jan 2012, 17:47:42

High: $110
Low: $93
Close: $105
The oil barrel is half-full.
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Re: THE 2012 PO.com Oil Price Challenge

Postby Cog » Mon 02 Jan 2012, 19:28:34

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('kublikhan', 'H')igh: $110
Low: $93
Close: $105


Are you trying to beat me out of 12th place again? :-D
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Re: THE 2012 PO.com Oil Price Challenge

Postby kublikhan » Tue 03 Jan 2012, 00:57:55

My highly refined prediction algorithms are top secret.
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Re: THE 2012 PO.com Oil Price Challenge

Postby pup55 » Tue 03 Jan 2012, 23:06:55

high 121.83
low 87.12
close 106.97

I am pretty sure Steinar N used my graph. Nah, not quite.
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Re: THE 2012 PO.com Oil Price Challenge

Postby SteinarN » Wed 04 Jan 2012, 05:00:17

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('pup55', 'h')igh 121.83
low 87.12
close 106.97

I am pretty sure Steinar N used my graph. Nah, not quite.

You waited to long with your prediction :razz:
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Re: THE 2012 PO.com Oil Price Challenge

Postby SeaGypsy » Wed 04 Jan 2012, 05:04:52

Nope, we have until the 7th or is the 4th the deadline? Anyway it's inside week 1 I think that's supposed to be ok, if anyone knows it would be Pup55 :?
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Re: THE 2012 PO.com Oil Price Challenge

Postby PeakOiler » Wed 04 Jan 2012, 06:49:28

The deadline is Sunday January 8th.

There are only 30 players this year (so far).

The first scorecard will be posted tomorrow.

Good luck everyone!

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