[Newfie]

Ibon,

I hear your point, and I hope you are right, but I fear not.

You ascribe logical associations. My belief is that we don't really work like that, it is not our rational mind that make the decisions but our 'snake brain.'

Sex sells, always has, always will.

There may be variations on the theme, some bumps in the curve, but the old rule will hold true.

The plumber is toast, except when needed, and then she will turn on the charm.

Sorry ladies, not meant to be sexist, same is true for guys.

[Whitefang]

About that Plato dude maybe he tried to say we are but experiencing a bodymind description made out of internal dialogue that makes what we call the world and everything we know, faking solid objectivity.
That dialogue makes us the petty tyrants we seem to be, our person, human pity and indulgence.
Our true nature hidden beneeth a spasm of forgetfullness, cozy boring immortal humanity.
We are inorganic life first, then the handy fixation on that spot of self pity, a body of vibrating feelings in worlds of energy.
Blablabla.................

Socrates was the one who probably really saw and understood we life two lives at once, Plato had skill to turn some into word.
The ultimate false flag, conspiricy of a world pulled over your eyes, your mind but a parisite feeding on your personal power using a fixation on the self, a sticky habit .

[AgentR11]

I think the plumber vs hedge fund guy is a mistake; they are never in competition, ever. The hedge fund guy is never going to associate with the girls that would be mixing at the bar with the plumber and his cohort. The question for the hedge fund crowd is, does the girl from William and Mary's with a master's in neoclassical basket weaving, bright, attractive, and entirely feminine in her every breathing moment prefer the display of the Porsche and hand tailored business suit, or does she start to prefer a more subdued expression of power and competence? Similarly, does the hedge fund bachelor start to prefer a less ostentatious display of femininity along with perhaps a dash of professional competence?

Second verse, same as the first for the plumber guy... does the bar babe start to prefer the plumber over the insurance agent? Does a middle class male peer showing up in a vette thrill or worry her (financially). Is her first instinct to want a ride, or to wonder if her male friend is about to get hosed by an unpayable car note...

[vision-master]

lol - agent is into bling bling......

[AgentR11]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('vision-master', 'l')ol - agent is into bling bling......

[vision-master]

an ugly as heck.

[AgentR11]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('vision-master', 'a')n ugly as heck.

[vision-master]

What's wrong with waiting tables?

[The Practician]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Roy', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'I')'m a little disturbed that I can not think of what the middle class answer to this question is...

[AgentR11]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('vision-master', 'W')hat's wrong with waiting tables?

[Ibon]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('AgentR11', 'I') think the plumber vs hedge fund guy is a mistake; they are never in competition, ever.

[AgentR11]

Not passing on Ibon's comment (requires more thought, like usual)... Just bumped on an article that probably won't keep its comments the same for long, just about Prince Harry in Vegas, apparently lost $300 at the blackjack table and got free drinks out of it... That's all fine and normal for a young man having fun in Vegas, but a reader comment was very interesting...

C Patience Summers: "He only lost $300 gambling, huh? Not bad for a rich kid. RESPONSIBLE".

She does have a pic on the profile, but you can't really trust those, but the words are clear enough. She's impressed by him having money, and *NOT* burning through it.

Article link...
http://www.people.com/people/package/article/0,,20395222_20547278,00.html

[Newfie]

In Greece and Rome the patricians had slaves. Here they have bankers and waiters and plumbers. I/O control.

We all engage a bit in this human slavery charade, some more some less. Not pure evil but just another way to think of things, another facet of the view port.

[AgentR11]

I do suppose there could be some mixing, a stunning, pleasant, feminine lower-middle class woman could easily enough bump into a rock'in hedge fund manager at a concert or high end dance club. I doubt the odds of a permanent relationship would be very good though.

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Ibon', 'A')nd in 10 years the female hedgefund manager who lost her job after the next wave of economic contraction might choose a Chinese plumber because all those excess males in China might be looking for 3rd world (American) brides on the internet.

[AgentR11]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Ibon', 'I')n times of cheap energy with growth and abundance, the most attractive mate is the one with the most conspicuous consumption and bling.