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Re: The cuts are a'coming

Postby Satori » Fri 19 Aug 2011, 00:21:39

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Cog', 'A')re you referring to Texas creating 40% of the jobs this country has gained since Obama became president? Is that the miracle of which you speak? It could be a worse resume compared the one established by the Teleprompter-In-Chief.



Cog you REALLY need to look into the so called Texas Miracle
I have
extensively
its a public relations FRAUD
as Rick Perry is proving to be
its going to be an interesting election
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Re: The cuts are a'coming

Postby Sixstrings » Fri 19 Aug 2011, 00:30:01

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Satori', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Cog', 'A')re you referring to Texas creating 40% of the jobs this country has gained since Obama became president? Is that the miracle of which you speak? It could be a worse resume compared the one established by the Teleprompter-In-Chief.



Cog you REALLY need to look into the so called Texas Miracle
I have
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its a public relations FRAUD
as Rick Perry is proving to be
its going to be an interesting election


But.. swing voters in swing states don't think that deeply. The economy is bad and getting worse, everyone knows it. Also I'm not saying it's right but it is unusual for many Americans to vote a black man for president -- it would be the same thing if Hillary were in there, she'd be held to a tougher standard too. Economy goes to crap, you bet the first woman president would be thrown out.

Swing voters aren't deep thinkers, I think they'd vote Perry over Obama.
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Re: The cuts are a'coming

Postby Keith_McClary » Fri 19 Aug 2011, 00:42:13

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Cog', 'S')ince the cry of the mooch class, with some support from their rich benefactors like Buffet and Soros, continue to echo the call for taxing the rich, I have to ask myself why. It can't be to balance the budget since deficits don't matter as Obama has proved quite clearly. It must be the classic redistribution of wealth scheme favored by the Marxists and their ilk.
The problem is, the top 1% don't spend much on iPhones, Fords, home renovations and groceries. They put their $ into companies that produce iPhones, Fords, home renovations and groceries, but the bottom 99% (your "mooch class") can't afford iPhones, Fords, home renovations and groceries.
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Re: The cuts are a'coming

Postby AdTheNad » Fri 19 Aug 2011, 05:02:41

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Cog', 'S')ince the cry of the mooch class

You should really stop harping on about the mooch class, when you have mooched far more of the world's finite resources than most people you call mooches could ever dream of. The more money someone has, the more finite resources they tend to use up. You act like you have more money than most people who have never had a job, therefore you have almost certainly used more finite resources and are a bigger mooch on the world.

You didn't make those resources, you didn't own the land where the organisms grew for millions of years before being converted into those fossil fuels, you didn't own the sunlight that gave them energy to grow, but like a mooch drawing money from his daddy's bank account you sure keep taking. Take take take. Mooch mooch mooch. And down the balance goes.

And yes, I too am a mooch, as is every single other person on here - some more than others. Just try not to be such a hypocrite.
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Re: The cuts are a'coming

Postby SeaGypsy » Fri 19 Aug 2011, 05:16:04

That's about right, we are all bludging (Australianism) off the system, which bludges off the planet.
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Re: The cuts are a'coming

Postby americandream » Fri 19 Aug 2011, 05:25:25

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('SeaGypsy', 'T')hat's about right, we are all bludging (Australianism) off the system, which bludges off the planet.
(Bludge: take with no intent of return)


All life bludges by that definition. Where cog is perhaps a little confused is that he has set himself up as fanatical guardian of a class that persistently displays a chameleon like adaptability (in terms of switching loyalties when it suits them) which should make him pause for thought. Yet he calls Buffet a leftist! It's incredible that a mere commoner could be so pedantic despite the evidence. In addition, we have had the biggest mooch in history from the very class that funds the periodicals that brainwash him, aka the bailout mooch and yet he persists in these fantasies about some poor solo mum bankrupting the mammoth budget of the US...despite the biggest mooch budget in the world as I have pointed out...by the very class he idolises. The man is weird.

edit. Its ironic he has taken the name, cog, like that other fellow we used to have on here....shortonsense. Pehaps he senses he has lost the plot.
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Re: The cuts are a'coming

Postby Cog » Fri 19 Aug 2011, 06:09:58

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Sixstrings', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Satori', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Cog', '
')But.. swing voters in swing states don't think that deeply. The economy is bad and getting worse, everyone knows it. Also I'm not saying it's right but it is unusual for many Americans to vote a black man for president -- it would be the same thing if Hillary were in there, she'd be held to a tougher standard too. Economy goes to crap, you bet the first woman president would be thrown out.

Swing voters aren't deep thinkers, I think they'd vote Perry over Obama.


I see. Only a deep thinking non-racist would vote for Obama. :roll: Your complete dismissal of half the country as some sort of racist retards tells me quite a lot about you Sixstrings. Deep down where it counts, you are guilty of the same bigotry and preconceived notions that you accuse me of.
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Re: The cuts are a'coming

Postby americandream » Fri 19 Aug 2011, 06:35:07

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Cog', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Sixstrings', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Satori', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Cog', '
')But.. swing voters in swing states don't think that deeply. The economy is bad and getting worse, everyone knows it. Also I'm not saying it's right but it is unusual for many Americans to vote a black man for president -- it would be the same thing if Hillary were in there, she'd be held to a tougher standard too. Economy goes to crap, you bet the first woman president would be thrown out.

Swing voters aren't deep thinkers, I think they'd vote Perry over Obama.


I see. Only a deep thinking non-racist would vote for Obama. :roll: Your complete dismissal of half the country as some sort of racist retards tells me quite a lot about you Sixstrings. Deep down where it counts, you are guilty of the same bigotry and preconceived notions that you accuse me of.


A black man is a black man. He can't help being born black. Stupids on the other hand have the capacity to change. So it's unfair being bigoted against someone for the way nature has adorned him. Stupids on the other hand who have no mitigating circumstances (deep Pavlovian conditioning via Fox might just about squeeze through as a concession for they know not what they do) deserve a swift kick in the pants as a stimulus to get off their butts and go larn some good stuff, No bailouts for stupids I am afraid.
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Re: The cuts are a'coming

Postby Cog » Fri 19 Aug 2011, 07:33:25

Try turning your analysis to the prevalence of left wing bigotry displayed in this very thread. If you are truly capable of such a thing. Your blindness to it is your ultimate weakness.
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Re: The cuts are a'coming

Postby NickyBoy » Fri 19 Aug 2011, 08:08:22

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Cog', 'T')ry turning your analysis to the prevalence of left wing bigotry displayed in this very thread. If you are truly capable of such a thing. Your blindness to it is your ultimate weakness.


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Re: The cuts are a'coming

Postby americandream » Fri 19 Aug 2011, 09:59:54

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Cog', 'T')ry turning your analysis to the prevalence of left wing bigotry displayed in this very thread. If you are truly capable of such a thing. Your blindness to it is your ultimate weakness.


Left wingers are a mix of the compassionate or, in my case, those who see the limits of capitalism and the consequences. Some are opportunists. I can understand opportunists of any stgripe. At least they have a reason for their ruses. Self enrichment.

You on the other hand are a strange case. You clearly aren't one of the media moghuls who shape the opinions you hold yet you evidently despise the rich (such as Buffet whom you call a leftist). The man would probably be in a position to buy many a third world country many times over, he is a capitalist in every sense of the world (in that he can take a dollar and turn it to 10 with sleight of hand)! And he is a leftist as far as you are concerned! Wow!

You nurse this pathetic idea that were the taxes removed, all would be well, FOR YOU. This is straight out of Fox's copybook. Murdoch is stinking rich. I can appreciate his preference. He has a vast wealth base and has no desire to part with a dime. Makes sense even though I think he's a scrooge.

You however! Whats in it for you. The satisfaction of knowing that you could be a Murdoch? There's got to be something in it for you or are you so naive as to believe that were America's services dismantled and its taxes pruned back so as the rich get even richer, you ill somehow be better off? Or do you get swept away by Fox's propaganda to such a degree that the old grey cells go walkabout?
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Re: The cuts are a'coming

Postby Cog » Fri 19 Aug 2011, 10:39:38

Your deflection is noted and quite expected.

Every time the left attacks the gun and religion crowd it energies the base that the Tea Party derives their strength from. Just like 2010, the left over-reaches with their income redistribution schemes(Obama-Care). And every time they do, they get slammed during the election cycle, outside the Marxist confines of this board.

Without a balanced budget and continued reckless spending, you will default. Just because the US can print money doesn't alter that. But yet again the progressives and hard left don't seem to understand math.

You should spend more time on this site http://tickerforum.org/akcs-www and less time on DailyKos. Or better yet, get away from the keyboard for a while and find out what people are really thinking about the economy.
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Re: The cuts are a'coming

Postby vision-master » Fri 19 Aug 2011, 10:45:58

You will not be saved from the implosion cog.
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Re: The cuts are a'coming

Postby americandream » Fri 19 Aug 2011, 10:52:24

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Cog', 'Y')our deflection is noted and quite expected.

Every time the left attacks the gun and religion crowd it energies the base that the Tea Party derives their strength from. Just like 2010, the left over-reaches with their income redistribution schemes(Obama-Care). And every time they do, they get slammed during the election cycle, outside the Marxist confines of this board.

Without a balanced budget and continued reckless spending, you will default. Just because the US can print money doesn't alter that. But yet again the progressives and hard left don't seem to understand math.

You should spend more time on this site http://tickerforum.org/akcs-www and less time on DailyKos. Or better yet, get away from the keyboard for a while and find out what people are really thinking about the economy.


Why are you attacking the poor and destitute for a deficit that was largely caused by the cronies and backers of the Tea Party. Fox man heavily promotes the TP, has backed the socialist Labour party in Britain when it suited him, has been in all sorts of hijinks recently for which he got dragged up before a UK parliamentary committee. Yet you keep harping on about deficits, living beyond one's means, blah, blah, blah, when its rich financiers such as Fox man, who back the TP, who have a huge stake in TP's agenda, want more, finger point those who take a fraction out of the system whilst ignoring their Wall Street investor buddies, using the TP for that objective (guns are just a distraction as Foxman who largely lives in the UK and Oz has little need for guns), and these chaps want tax cuts as well. How is the TP which is up to its eyeballs in corporate stuntmen, going to make America any better.

You are in sucvh denial that you wont answer these questions but keep wittering on about communists. The communists died with the fall of the USSR. Communists would lock the greedy swine in salt mines for re-education, not do business with them, no matter how liberal it seems to you. So don't distract the issue with bullshit reasoning. Just tell me. How are TP's corporate bosses going to make America better...cut the gun crap and answer the economic questions.
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Re: The cuts are a'coming

Postby vision-master » Fri 19 Aug 2011, 11:06:11

There will not be less apple trees during the crash, it's all manufactured to funnel more money to the wealthy. The Sun will still rise each day, the Moon will continue it's cycle.... There will be both day and night.
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Re: The cuts are a'coming

Postby americandream » Fri 19 Aug 2011, 11:13:41

Cog talks a lot of gobshite. Then he goes and watches Fox and comes back with more gobshite, some of it garnered from the TP which Foxman has heavily promoted. Then he waffles on about billionaire communists and leftists. What is with this guy? Can anyone be so dumb that they listen to one billionaire who wants tax cuts and another billionaire who wants welfare for the shopping classes and blame the communists (who have long since disapeared with the Berlin wall). Can anyone be that stupid!!
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Re: The cuts are a'coming

Postby Cog » Fri 19 Aug 2011, 11:32:10

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('americandream', 'C')og talks a lot of gobshite. Then he goes and watches Fox and comes back with more gobshite, some of it garnered from the TP which Foxman has heavily promoted. Then he waffles on about billionaire communists and leftists. What is with this guy? Can anyone be so dumb that they listen to one billionaire who wants tax cuts and another billionaire who wants welfare for the shopping classes and blame the communists (who have long since disapeared with the Berlin wall). Can anyone be that stupid!!


Your deflection is noted.
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Re: The cuts are a'coming

Postby prajeshbhat » Fri 19 Aug 2011, 12:51:45

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Cog', 'E')very time the left attacks the gun and religion crowd it energies the base that the Tea Party derives their strength from. Just like 2010, the left over-reaches with their income redistribution schemes(Obama-Care). And every time they do, they get slammed during the election cycle, outside the Marxist confines of this board.


The tea party claims to be the truly virtuous patriotic religious bunch. The real Americans. They advice the government to reduce its revenue. They also want things to go back the way they were in 1950s. They also appeal to common sense. They say it's simple arithmetic. The government should reduce its revenues by cutting taxes and end deficits. Also let the moochers starve.

Surely self discipline, small government and free enterprise are great virtues. But how many of them are willing to practice what they preach? How many of the tea party members are willing to work for lower and lower income for the rest of their lives (like they expect everyone else to do)? They say they are rugged individualists. But how many of them are willing to fight their own battles? Why do they expect some young 18 year old to die just because they don't like muslims ?
They hope that rich businessmen will give them jobs if the government gets out of the way. Competition and free market will solve all their problems. But how many of them are willing to compete with mexican immigrants for wages?
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Re: The cuts are a'coming

Postby Cog » Fri 19 Aug 2011, 13:19:47

Lets start by kicking the 11 million illegals out of our country then we can talk about competing in wages with them.
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Re: The cuts are a'coming

Postby Sixstrings » Fri 19 Aug 2011, 16:37:38

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Cog', 'I') see. Only a deep thinking non-racist would vote for Obama. :roll: Your complete dismissal of half the country as some sort of racist retards tells me quite a lot about you Sixstrings. Deep down where it counts, you are guilty of the same bigotry and preconceived notions that you accuse me of.


I'm not talking about half the country, I'm talking about the swing voters in swing states -- that's 20% at most, in only five states at that. They decide every election.

The swing voters I know.. they're just not deep political thinkers. That's not a judgement. These are just average folks busy living their lives. Some women vote for a guy because he's attractive. Obama had a cool factor going last time. Some guys vote for "who they'd like to have a beer with." For a lot of people, it comes down to that old cliche "are you better or worse off than you were four years ago." That's how the swing voters vote, they're not thinking about the EPA or trade policy or future SCOTUS decisions.

I used to be one of these non-thinking sheeple swing voters.. in '04 I was too busy with my little circle of life, I paid zero attention to the election. Kerry seemed elitist and weak, so snap decision I voted Bush.

That's my only point here, I think a lot of swing voters make gut-based decisions. The economy sucks, it's getting worse. I think the swing vote will take a look at Perry and see him as a confident, strong, positive guy. If this were a football team, who would you pick for coach? Obama or Perry? Now factor in we've had a losing streak.

But whatever Cog go ahead and vote Obama if you want. ;) :lol:
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