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Re: Explosion at Norway's oil and energy ministry

Unread postby yeahbut » Mon 25 Jul 2011, 15:58:11

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Serial_Worrier', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('AgentR11', '&')quot;read in an article somewhere" that they found the remaining fertilizer on his property. Not like the stuff was/is hard to buy. Anyone with acreage as opposed to kitchen gardens has cause to think of fertilizer in terms of tons instead of pounds, so its not like some oddball purchase.


Also how do you profile these purchases? Does any 6-ton purchase immediately send an investigator to determine if the buyer is a Breivik?


Not to mention the fact that he didn't need a fertiliser bomb for the great majority of his killings. A few high powered weapons available most places are just fine for inflicting mass casualties. Especially if you're a big brave man playing "knights templar" and murdering defenceless children and young people.
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Re: Explosion at Norway's oil and energy ministry

Unread postby yeahbut » Mon 25 Jul 2011, 16:00:41

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Pretorian', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('PrestonSturges', 'I') just hope they find the other tons because I hate to think he could have shared it with other white supremacists.



Again, Breivik was a zionist and a mason, not white supremacist. Period.


If the circumstances weren't so horrendous it would be almost funny watching you trying to disassociate yourself from the atrocities that hate speech and thought eventually lead to when followed to their 'logical' conclusions.
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Re: Explosion at Norway's oil and energy ministry

Unread postby AgentR11 » Mon 25 Jul 2011, 16:08:15

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Serial_Worrier', 'A')lso how do you profile these purchases? Does any 6-ton purchase immediately send an investigator to determine if the buyer is a Breivik?


I imagine they stick it on a list, and hope a cross reference pops on bad guys.

Still, what would an inspector see? Drives to Bob Place, note tractor, note field, note a shed with stacked bags of fertilizer, gee, how surprising. What would stick out? Hard nut to crack really.

Supposedly US fertilizer is stabilized so it won't go boom anymore, maybe something folks should do worldwide.
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Re: Explosion at Norway's oil and energy ministry

Unread postby Pretorian » Mon 25 Jul 2011, 16:19:13

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('yeahbut', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Pretorian', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('PrestonSturges', 'I') just hope they find the other tons because I hate to think he could have shared it with other white supremacists.



Again, Breivik was a zionist and a mason, not white supremacist. Period.


If the circumstances weren't so horrendous it would be almost funny watching you trying to disassociate yourself from the atrocities that hate speech and thought eventually lead to when followed to their 'logical' conclusions.


Almost funny? The guy got banned from StormFront for his love of Jews and being an anti-white. That is a fact. If he was a white nationalist or even white supremacist I would'nt make any attempt to disassociate myself or ourselves whatsoever.
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Re: Explosion at Norway's oil and energy ministry

Unread postby PrestonSturges » Mon 25 Jul 2011, 16:50:19

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Pretorian', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('yeahbut', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Pretorian', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('PrestonSturges', 'I') just hope they find the other tons because I hate to think he could have shared it with other white supremacists.

Again, Breivik was a zionist and a mason, not white supremacist. Period.

If the circumstances weren't so horrendous it would be almost funny watching you trying to disassociate yourself from the atrocities that hate speech and thought eventually lead to when followed to their 'logical' conclusions.
Almost funny? The guy got banned from StormFront for his love of Jews and being an anti-white. That is a fact. If he was a white nationalist or even white supremacist I would'nt make any attempt to disassociate myself or ourselves whatsoever.
And yet he says that the liberal Jews (non-Zionists) need to be killed - by his estimate 75% of the European Jews and and 50% of Israeli Jews need to be killed.

And that wasn't good enough for StormFront? 8O

BTW, you can find the quotes on page 1163 of his manifesto.
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Re: Explosion at Norway's oil and energy ministry

Unread postby Pretorian » Mon 25 Jul 2011, 17:03:41

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('PrestonSturges', 'A')nd yet he says that the liberal Jews (non-Zionists) need to be killed - by his estimate 75% of the European Jews and and 50% of Israeli Jews need to be killed.

And that wasn't good enough for StormFront? 8O

BTW, you can find the quotes on page 1163 of his manifesto.


I will go look into those details later, but that's only confirms that he was a zionist, hence not good enough for StormFront. We do not seek anybody being killed-- we seek to secure existence of our people and future for white children. That'll do, you can keep your Jews in Israel or some place else.
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Re: Explosion at Norway's oil and energy ministry

Unread postby PrestonSturges » Mon 25 Jul 2011, 17:19:22

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Pretorian', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('PrestonSturges', 'A')nd yet he says that the liberal Jews (non-Zionists) need to be killed - by his estimate 75% of the European Jews and and 50% of Israeli Jews need to be killed.

And that wasn't good enough for StormFront? 8O

BTW, you can find the quotes on page 1163 of his manifesto.

I will go look into those details later, but that's only confirms that he was a zionist, hence not good enough for StormFront. We do not seek anybody being killed-- we seek to secure existence of our people and future for white children. That'll do, you can keep your Jews in Israel or some place else.
Well he was very concerned about being called a Nazi because he saw it as a political liability. So his plan was to emphasize Gemanic/Nordic homelands to resist Islamic colonization. But it was also clearly stated that the goal was to recruit whites for an eventual civil war and coup detate.

I have never seen any particular reluctance by white supremacists to label other whites "race traitors" and treat them the same as the foreigners they hate. You seem to imply they are some sort of pacifists, but I'm drawing a blank.
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Of course, Anders claimed everything justified "self defense." Changing demographics? Killing children was just "self defense" for him.

But I will give the people at StormFront credit for trying really hard to not always be in trouble Actually the people at StormFront are quite dull compared to the average raving Tea Party type.
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Re: Explosion at Norway's oil and energy ministry

Unread postby pedalling_faster » Tue 26 Jul 2011, 08:49:27

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Oneaboveall', 'I')t looks like it was ultra-nationalists, not Islamic extremists:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/07/2 ... 07513.html


actually, it was a Judeo-fascist, not an Islamo-fascist.

the shooter listened to this older guy -

http://fjordman.blogspot.com/

a big fan of Internet Haganah.

Haganah is the name of one of the 4 Jewish terrorist groups that operated in Palestine from 1935 to 1948.


it the shooter had been an avid fan of "Jihad", we'd be hearing all about it, right ?

well, he was a fan of Jihad, but under a different name.

but the media plays by 2 sets of rules (maybe more), so they call him a "right-wing extremist", instead of what he was - a Judeo-Fascist. That's not a term i use much, but, since people use the term "Islamo-Fascist", they seem to like the *-fascist terminology.
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Re: Explosion at Norway's oil and energy ministry

Unread postby Mesuge » Tue 26 Jul 2011, 09:26:54

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The accused perpetrator will probably enjoy "rest of" his days (20-30yrs sentence depending on the law) in the luxurious norwegian Halden Fengsel detention facility near Oslo. For one thing, his future personal fitness coach is absolutely mindblowing speciwomen of northern beauty (twice click to propely zoom), the designer fitted rooms, gym and other parts of the complex (and relaxed rules and therapy) are not too shabby either.. look ma no fence on the windows either..

PS that's what the unique world of Norway combining low pop and energy bonanza can offer as of now, it's quite startling to contrast/compare it to thai or any other famous stinky prison dungeons of the world, on the other hand you won't ever enjoy the thrills of mounting escape party like the mexican and asian prisoners often do..

PS2 most likely ~99% of humanity never lived in such comforts even as law abiding bottom of the pyramid

PS3 interestingly enough this "marxist" paradise is part of NATO and wider global TPTB rulling structures, mind you there were/are current or historic examples of rather ruthless ubercapitalistic figures operating from that country, however somehow they managed to keep the home more or less a pleasant garden. While most of the world pissed massively even into their own nests. The pop per km2 has been always the key..Olduvai here we come..

What an interesting planet to be on :twisted:
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Re: Explosion at Norway's oil and energy ministry

Unread postby Keith_McClary » Tue 26 Jul 2011, 11:54:26

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Mesuge', 'P')S3 interestingly enough this "marxist" paradise is part of NATO and wider global TPTB rulling structures, mind you there were/are current or historic examples of rather ruthless ubercapitalistic figures operating from that country, however somehow they managed to keep the home more or less a pleasant garden. While most of the world pissed massively even into their own nests. The pop per km2 has been always the key..Olduvai here we come..
It might have something to do with oil revenues - they have a $570 billion sovereign fund, population 5 million.
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Re: Explosion at Norway's oil and energy ministry

Unread postby Mesuge » Tue 26 Jul 2011, 12:23:57

For carefull readers this point was already addressed in PS (1) - the first additional paragraph. Besides there are examples of other smaller countries not necessarily dependent on fossil bonanza, performing very well..
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Re: Explosion at Norway's oil and energy ministry

Unread postby Novus » Tue 26 Jul 2011, 17:37:12

Considering Norway's jail system maybe zero jail time would be the best punishment. Toss him right on the streets and find out if he can take it is well as he give it.
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Re: Explosion at Norway's oil and energy ministry

Unread postby Mesuge » Tue 26 Jul 2011, 18:37:00

That's the big misunderstanding as being addressed above.
In such situation chances are he wouldn't be killed/maimed by the mob rule of the street, unlike in the american society. Probably a lot people would put their bodies in the middle and demand sending him to nearest police station/court.

Perhaps hard to grasp for other cultures, and yes scandinavians watched a lot of bloody gringo TV fluff since childhood too.
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Re: Explosion at Norway's oil and energy ministry

Unread postby Pretorian » Tue 26 Jul 2011, 21:58:09

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Novus', 'C')onsidering Norway's jail system maybe zero jail time would be the best punishment. Toss him right on the streets and find out if he can take it is well as he give it.


And what do you think will happen? Random citizens and tourists will be so indignant that would risk being prosecuting for assault/ murder to avenge people they've never heard of ? Well may be if they are muslim.
Besides, even if it would happen it would be oh so very much non-liberal that the dead themselves might have a problem with that.
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Re: Explosion at Norway's oil and energy ministry

Unread postby PrestonSturges » Thu 28 Jul 2011, 19:36:07

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('pedalling_faster', '
')but the media plays by 2 sets of rules (maybe more), so they call him a "right-wing extremist", instead of what he was - a Judeo-Fascist. That's not a term i use much, but, since people use the term "Islamo-Fascist", they seem to like the *-fascist terminology.


From the manifesto:
Praises the Tea Party
Global warming is hoax
He wants to abolish Social Security
He's a "birther"
He's into Christian "spiritual warfare"
Hates "secularism"
Says his movement has many friends in American GOP
Believes in the Fox News' "War On Christmas"
Wants to restore "Christian culture"
Hates "multiculturalism"
Condemns "cultural Marxism" (see also Andrew Breitbart and Pat Buchannan also attacking "cultural Marxism")

Some desperate flailing around conservative said that since he mentioned "Peak Oil," that means he's a environmentalist, even though white supremacists see Peak Oil as a chance to spark a race war.

What you don't see is anyone from the right saying "He is WRONG."

They are willing to bicker about what category to put him in, but they can't bring themselves to actually disagree with anything he said.
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Re: Explosion at Norway's oil and energy ministry

Unread postby AgentR11 » Thu 28 Jul 2011, 20:18:28

I'm quite right wing.

The guy is either crazy, evil or both. And he is most certainly wrong in doing what he did, as well as being wrong on certain fact based issues, ie, agw as you mentioned.


Some of the stuff you listed is policy preference, so its kind of like saying "banana ice cream is wrong" (even if it is, in fact, wrong!).
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Re: Explosion at Norway's oil and energy ministry

Unread postby Pretorian » Fri 29 Jul 2011, 02:56:03

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('PrestonSturges', '
')What you don't see is anyone from the right saying "He is WRONG."

They are willing to bicker about what category to put him in, but they can't bring themselves to actually disagree with anything he said.


He is wrong in most of the stuff that you listed. Happy now? It does not mean though, that there is no elephant-in-the-room kind of issues (compared with some of that bullshit) in which he is right.
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Re: Explosion at Norway's oil and energy ministry

Unread postby Fishman » Fri 29 Jul 2011, 08:42:53

Preston, I was WRONG about my initial post here. But only by a few days

http://weaselzippers.us/2011/07/28/shoc ... r-request/
Another muslim tries to blow up an American military base, big support by the left.

So clearly your errors would include the NUMEROUS attacks by militant SELF PROCLAIMED MUSLIMS. The Norway guy used Christian in one line in over a thousand pages of rant, but disavowed strongly any Christian fundamentalism. Luckily, though wrong on my original post, I could count on muslim terrorists and the idiocy of the left to come through quickly.

So Preston,
What you don't see is anyone from the LEFT saying "He is WRONG."
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Re: Explosion at Norway's oil and energy ministry

Unread postby PrestonSturges » Fri 29 Jul 2011, 09:56:22

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Fishman', 'P')reston, I was WRONG about my initial post here. But only by a few days

The point is, can you say "Anders was wrong?" Not "Anders was crazy, nothing to see." or "Anders wasn't really one of us" ( which seems to be a dog whistle of approval).
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Re: Explosion at Norway's oil and energy ministry

Unread postby PrestonSturges » Fri 29 Jul 2011, 10:04:03

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('AgentR11', 'I')'m quite right wing.

The guy is either crazy, evil or both. And he is most certainly wrong in doing what he did, as well as being wrong on certain fact based issues, ie, agw as you mentioned.

Some of the stuff you listed is policy preference, so its kind of like saying "banana ice cream is wrong" (even if it is, in fact, wrong!).

Thank you! You have more character than a lot of people!

Yes, well the things I listed are hardly his biggest flaws. The worst things he did were obviously the terrorism, but the points that I listed are the stereotype Fox News viewpoints that define that particular branch of American conservatism.

And the point that I highlighted is where we agree. And there are right wing propagandists (Jonah Goldberg, Glenn Beck) who always pop up with some comment about how (something) really proves the madman was a liberal. I've always pegged those people as Nazi apologists and often Hitler apologists. And then you have Anders, who complained about "cultural Marxism," (basically identical to "liberal Fascism") and how every bad guy was really a leftist. Now we can say "You know who believes that stuff? Some guy that massacred about 100 kids."

If we take that idea a little further, we can make the point that this terrorist has his own television network. He did not get those talking points (and others specifically about American congressmen) from his Euro-Muslim hating cronies.
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