[Ludi]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Loki', ' ')libertarians for the most part don't give two hoots about the environment.

[Plantagenet]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Oneaboveall', '&')quot;States Rights": a code word for segregation.

[mos6507]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Ludi', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Loki', ' ')libertarians for the most part don't give two hoots about the environment.

[Ludi]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('mos6507', '
')
"Individual freedom" seems intertwined with Laissez-faire capitalism which leads to tragedy of the commons.

[careinke]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Ludi', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('mos6507', '
')
"Individual freedom" seems intertwined with Laissez-faire capitalism which leads to tragedy of the commons.

[AgentR11]

Mos.. I have no trouble being a Republican and accepting the evidence concerning global climate change. None what so ever. Nor does acknowledging the eventual impacts of Peak Oil in any way run counter to my political policy objectives. In fact, I can't even come up with a rational reason why either of those two issues should have any left-ish pull at all. They are both absolutely devastating to large, organized labor and programs for government support of the disadvantaged.

Now, I readily admit that the social-spin layered on those realities tends to be quite lefty, but they seem mostly like an afterthought to me, kinda like policy objectives looking for some vaguely relevant reality to cling onto. I'm thoroughly unimpressed by such. Left wing for the posh and cool I suppose. Hybrid cars?? Really? In the real world there are some 2-3 BILLION highly motivated, but economically challenged people who's primary hope and dream for their family is to get a nicer, air conditioned dwelling and an internal combustion engine powered transportation device. And they WILL get them. We aren't at the moment when humanity goes "oh my, lets turn it down a bit".... not at all; we're at the moment when almost all of humanity wakes up and says, "oh my! CARSSSSSSSSS. WANT!".

The left fails to acknowledge this truth.
The right understands it... Bob Natel and Charley Chen are every bit as talented and capable of burning fossil fuels as any John Smith in the US; and they're now awake and ready for the game.

[mos6507]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('AgentR11', 'W')e aren't at the moment when humanity goes "oh my, lets turn it down a bit".... not at all; we're at the moment when almost all of humanity wakes up and says, "oh my! CARSSSSSSSSS. WANT!".

The left fails to acknowledge this truth.
The right understands it... Bob Natel and Charley Chen are every bit as talented and capable of burning fossil fuels as any John Smith in the US; and they're now awake and ready for the game.

[Revi]

The right wingers are the party of "Drill Baby Drill". They are promising a return to the good times. They managed it under Reagan, but this time they won't be able to deliver. We aren't headed for a great time, and they won't be able to get the price of gas down or do anything for the average person. There will be a lot of talk, but when it comes down to it neither party can make the good times roll again.

[AgentR11]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('mos6507', 'Y')ou fail to establish a policy position. If you believe in GW and PO then all I can see you support by default is doom.

[AgentR11]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Revi', 'T')here will be a lot of talk, but when it comes down to it neither party can make the good times roll again.

[Plantagenet]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Revi', 'T')he right wingers are the party of "Drill Baby Drill".

[Loki]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('AgentR11', 'M')os.. I have no trouble being a Republican and accepting the evidence concerning global climate change.

[Cloud9]

What draws the right to peak oil? For me it is quite simple. My concern is how real is the problem? How is it going to affect me and mine? What can I learn that might mitigate some of the damage to me and mine?

The bonus for us right wingers is the real possibility that as energy declines the tentacles of the omnipotent omnipresent fed may wither somewhat and release us from the from the strangle hold imposed by the philosophical notion that all of our problems can be solved by another government program.

[Lore]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Cloud9', 'W')hat draws the right to peak oil? For me it is quite simple. My concern is how real is the problem? How is it going to affect me and mine? What can I learn that might mitigate some of the damage to me and mine?

The bonus for us right wingers is the real possibility that as energy declines the tentacles of the omnipotent omnipresent fed may wither somewhat and release us from the from the strangle hold imposed by the philosophical notion that all of our problems can be solved by another government program.

[Cloud9]

The Great Lord Humungas can be dispatched rather easily and at low cost. I fear no man. I fear the tyrant that shrouds himself in the legality of his office and comes after you with the full force of government.

[Lore]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Cloud9', 'T')he Great Lord Humungas can be dispatched rather easily and at low cost. I fear no man. I fear the tyrant that shrouds himself in the legality of his office and comes after you with the full force of government.

[Cloud9]

Not quite, the ineffectual rebels in Libya are fighting their government. That is somewhat different than the local bully trying to have his way with you.

http://www2.hernandotoday.com/content/2 ... in-street/

[Lore]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Cloud9', 'N')ot quite, the ineffectual rebels in Libya are fighting their government. That is somewhat different than the local bully trying to have his way with you.

http://www2.hernandotoday.com/content/2 ... in-street/

[rangerone314]

I have an idea that will make both sides of the idiot coin (the left wingers and the right wingers) both happy: we can disarm our nuclear weapons by launching all of them at Antarctica and blast all the ice shelves into the ocean.

[Cloud9]

If the local tyrant cannot call on unlimited reserves, then he has to rule by the will of the local majority. We could have real problems with the dictatorship of the majority. But, if he got too far out of hand he could be easily reigned in. The bully in Defiance comes to mind.