by rangerone314 » Mon 07 Mar 2011, 19:45:35
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('mos6507', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('rangerone314', 'T')ry and imagine this country if we had a revolution and then whacked the top 1% and the bottom 5 % (which would pretty much decimate the two criminal classes in this country).
Whack? You've got to stop "imagining" genocidal solutions. It seems like no matter what thread we're in, you chime in with some "final solution" that involves playing Judge Jury and Executioner and killing off one group of people or another you deem to be worthy of extermination. It's really deplorable.
I judge an action by whether or not the situation will be better with or without something existing.
Hitler killing 6 million Jews was a negative action, because he killed mostly quality people. On the other hand, the world would have been better off without Hitler being alive long enough to do what he did.
I killed a fox because it was rubbish that was surplus killing my chickens and was a threat. Conversely I have gone out of my way to save turtles, frogs and snakes from threats because they are greatly beneficial.
I care not for useless emotional judgments like "he's a sicko". Useless ideologues like liberals and conservatives have driven this country into the ground because they are illogical and stupid, and cater to the lowest common denominator. If things were run according to utilitarian logic, the world would be much better off. I tend to keep to myself, unless a threat presents itself. (Like a tree branch from a huge dying tree taking out my car's windshield). The next action: huge tree comes down later this week, to be replaced by countless smaller trees... perfectly reasonable)
Mostly people only understand raw naked force. One of two things will happen for example with Kadafi... either the rebels kill him with raw naked force, or Kadafi stays in power via raw naked force. The West's useless rhetoric and limp-dicked idealism and sanctions will have little effect on the outcome. Somehow I doubt karma meditation, guru mystics, UFO's and the singularity will affect Libya's outcome either.
Ultimately all morality is just made up, imagined. The only thing that matters is the results. Ultimately, humans are just molecules like a tree, and will also eventually fall apart and die, just like that tree is. I have noticed people's morality often (and conveniently) reflects what would represent a self-serving outcome for those professing the morality in question.
The only reason "the end justifies the means" moral method fails so often is that most primates are too stupid and short-sighted to see the various unforeseen consequences of their applications. (That and the "end" usually conveniently serves the person doing the implementing)
Taking out the upper 1% and the bottom 5% would result in those consuming more resources than they have earned being removed as a burden to the middle class. If a hot air balloon is sinking towards the ocean, you have to toss out the ballast(non-producers and those who reap disproportionately large shares), not the fuel (middle class) providing the lift for the balloon.
Actually the ideal revolution would be the bottom 5% ignoring the middle class completely and pillaging the top 1%. Wealth disparity is exacerbated the most by the top 1%, so why should the middle class bear the burden of supporting the bottom and the top?
An ideology is by definition not a search for TRUTH-but a search for PROOF that its point of view is right
Equals barter and negotiate-people with power just take
You cant defend freedom by eliminating it-unknown
Our elected reps should wear sponsor patches on their suits so we know who they represent-like Nascar-Roy
