[Xenophobe]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('WebHubbleTelescope', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Xenophobe', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Pops', '
')I see you've met our current resident one-trick-cornies, not as good with the original thought as JD once was but they're all we can muster these days I guess.

[WebHubbleTelescope]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Xenophobe', 'T')his is an internet forum, not a place where science is done. Which is one of the comments I alluded to last night which has already disappeared. Around here 2+2 is allowed to equal 5 anytime the censors want it to.

[Xenophobe]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('WebHubbleTelescope', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Xenophobe', 'T')his is an internet forum, not a place where science is done. Which is one of the comments I alluded to last night which has already disappeared. Around here 2+2 is allowed to equal 5 anytime the censors want it to.

[WebHubbleTelescope]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Xenophobe', 'H')ow does that happen when some posters aren't even allowed to post theirs? FreddyH has some wonderful heuristics which have been specifically excluded from the conversation, both here and at TOD. Not much of an exchange of ideas when the censors design the echochamber.

[Xenophobe]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('WebHubbleTelescope', '
')EDIT: Hutter has a free area, and this link is interesting on what he calls regular conventional oil. It looks like he does a pretty good accounting but his future predictions contain all this additional fine structure which seems impossible to predict.
http://www.trendlines.ca/free/peakoil/s ... os.htm#rco

[WebHubbleTelescope]

Hutter actually does a good job in cataloguing the constituent components. If you have an issue with something like biofuels you can quicky see its fractional effect. He has a good mini-history of conventional crude predictions as well.

[mididoctors]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('WebHubbleTelescope', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('mididoctors', 'B')y how much would the extraction rates of unconventional oil (sands perhaps shale oil etc) need to be increased by to seriously effect the "curve" in the next 30-50yrs?

[kublikhan]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Xenophobe', 'O')nce apon a time he brought his ideas and concepts to both here and TOD. Got banned from TOD first I think, got banned here in the summer of 08.

It isn't science when well armed opponents are excluded.

[Xenophobe]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('kublikhan', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Xenophobe', '
')It isn't science when well armed opponents are excluded.

[Expatriot]

6 pages of troll wars. Lord.
And this, with oil over 100 and rising, and gasoline going past 330?

[Xenophobe]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Expatriot', '6') pages of troll wars. Lord.
And this, with oil over 100 and rising, and gasoline going past 330?

[dsula]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Xenophobe', 'Y')ou were as worried when real crude prices were that high...during the Civil War?

[Xenophobe]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('dsula', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Xenophobe', 'Y')ou were as worried when real crude prices were that high...during the Civil War?

[dolanbaker]

Just how much oil was being used during time of the (US) civil war?
Was it being used in large quantities by the general population to power their personal transport or to heat their houses or generate electricity etc, if not, it ain't relevent!

[Xenophobe]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('dolanbaker', 'J')ust how much oil was being used during time of the (US) civil war?

[dolanbaker]

Coal was king until sometime in the first quarter of the 20th century, coal in the 1890s is like oil is today, the principal energy source and driver of the economy.

Tangents are for detracting from the main point, and you've gone off on one!

[mididoctors]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Xenophobe', '
')
Now that we are at themercy of the global market and OPEC is the swing producer, they can do whatever they'd like and all we can do is solve peak oil one transport dependency at a time. This one is good for solving peak oil for nearly all of us.

[WebHubbleTelescope]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('mididoctors', '
')thats the joke.. the "peakers" try and bat down this argument thinking its an attempt to undermine their world view while the "deniers" think they are disproving a break in the continuity in oil production growth by explaining there is one!

its almost tragic

[WebHubbleTelescope]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Xenophobe', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('WebHubbleTelescope', '
')Isn't this the same old JD/JohnDenver/POdebunked schtick that went on and on and on? I always thought that attitude was weak because you can rationalize anything with it.

[WebHubbleTelescope]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Xenophobe', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('mididoctors', '
')thats a random walk.... even a dumbo like me knows WHT's stuff is not time series...