[Fishman]

“Meticulous attention,” the president insisted in 1937, “should be paid to the special relations and obligations of public servants to the public itself and to the Government….The process of collective bargaining, as usually understood, cannot be transplanted into the public service.” The reason? F.D.R. believed that “[a] strike of public employees manifests nothing less than an intent on their part to obstruct the operations of government until their demands are satisfied. Such action looking toward the paralysis of government by those who have sworn to support it is unthinkable and intolerable.”

FDR knew it, said it well.

[Timo]

#1. There are simply too many people because,
#2. there are not enough jobs for everyone because,
#3. there aren't enough physical resources to be exploited anymore because,
#4. we've already been there, done that because,
#5. we've all drastically misinterpreted what it means to be alive because,
#6. we've seen the benefits of easy living because,
#7. we've already exploited all the resources necessary for easy living because,
#8. everybody wants the easy way of life because,
#9. we all think we're now entitled to an endless supply of everything we want because.
#10. Humans are stupid and have completely wasted the lives we were given.

[Fishman]

Nah, this is fun. Stocked up on popcorn, enjoying the show of peak oil and its consequences.

[Sixstrings]

So I wonder how far they'll go with the strike? If they give up their right to collectively bargain then that's it, you don't have a union anymore after that.

[PrestonSturges]

The governor is going to be shocked if John Galt decides to go ice fishing. Oooops!

[PrestonSturges]

The cops are picketing with the teachers !

And many of the National Guard are teachers.

Let's see if the state tries tries to do something Chinese style, like bring in the Guard from a different state.

[gollum]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('PrestonSturges', 'T')he cops are picketing with the teachers !

And many of the National Guard are teachers.

Let's see if the state tries tries to do something Chinese style, like bring in the Guard from a different state.

[PrestonSturges]

Apparently the "unions are ruining us" story line neglects to tell how the governor gave big tax breaks to out-of-state companies (his campaign donors) and that is why WI is suddenly broke.

[gollum]

I don't think anyone in their right mind is arguing that there shouldnt be pay cuts, what people are really outraged about is losing their collective bargaining rights. If I lived there I'd be in the streets with em this morning.

[eXpat]

Democratic Senators Walk Out Of Capitol
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'F')eb. 17, 2011 10:56 a.m. |

WISC-TV has confirmed that all Democratic state senators have walked out of the Capitol as a means of protest against Gov. Scott Walker's budget repair bill.

Sen. Tim Cullen of Janesvilletells WISC-TV that all Democrats are leaving the city as a show of protest against the proposal.

Senate rules state that 20 Senators need to show up to have a quorum for the body to act on a piece of legislation.

[PrestonSturges]

Walker gins up "crisis" to reward cronies
http://host.madison.com/ct/news/opinion ... :0|order:5

[PrestonSturges]

I think one of the reasons the Club For Growth/Tea party candidates are in such a rush to make radical changes is that many of them will be paralyzed by endless personal sandal by the end of the year.

[Sixstrings]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('eXpat', '[')b]Democratic Senators Walk Out Of Capitol
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'F')eb. 17, 2011 10:56 a.m. |

WISC-TV has confirmed that all Democratic state senators have walked out of the Capitol as a means of protest against Gov. Scott Walker's budget repair bill.

Sen. Tim Cullen of Janesvilletells WISC-TV that all Democrats are leaving the city as a show of protest against the proposal.

Senate rules state that 20 Senators need to show up to have a quorum for the body to act on a piece of legislation.

[PrestonSturges]

The state-police-chasing-the-legislators happened somewhere a couple years ago.

Also interesting is that you have Walker appointees doing this and that one of them is father of the new GOP head of the state house. So they've already turned over key parts of the government to GOP family control.

[Plantagenet]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote(' ', ' ')all Democrats are leaving the city as a show of protest against the proposal.

Senate rules state that 20 Senators need to show up to have a quorum for the body to act on a piece of legislation.

[Sixstrings]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Plantagenet', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote(' ', ' ')all Democrats are leaving the city as a show of protest against the proposal.

Senate rules state that 20 Senators need to show up to have a quorum for the body to act on a piece of legislation.

[Fishman]

Gosh you may be right!
"I think one of the reasons the Club For Growth/Tea party candidates are in such a rush to make radical changes is that many of them will be paralyzed by endless personal sandal by the end of the year."
Or just maybe we're broke, and someone has figured out we need to pay our bills .

Nah, its widespread personal scandals.

Somebody's gotta stick up for workers' rights, screw those Wisconsin people that pay the taxes!

[Pops]

I'll just chip to say that the days of silly work rules, seniority and fat benies (payable sometime down the road) are over - as they should be.

But I'm really surprised the people of WI are surprised republicans would like to see the end of unions just as much as they'd like to see the elimination of taxes on the wealthy, the minimum wage, unemployment insurance or and any other social services program for that matter. It's not like either party has ever been very successful hiding who their true constituents are.

Where were these people in November?

[Ludi]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('PrestonSturges', 'T')he state-police-chasing-the-legislators happened somewhere a couple years ago.

[Ludi]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Pops', '
')Where were these people in November?