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What Myers Briggs Personality Type are you?

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What is your Myers Briggs Personality type, and do you believe in Peak Oil?

INTJ - Peak Oiler
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INTP - Peak Oiler
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1 letter difference from INTJ/INTP - Peak Oiler
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2 letter difference from INTJ/INTP - Peak Oiler
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INTJ - Non Peak Oiler
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INTP - Non Peak Oiler
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1 letter difference from INTJ/INTP - Non Peak Oiler
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2 letter difference from INTJ/INTP - Non Peak Oiler
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Other - Peak Oiler
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Other - Non Peak Oiler
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Total votes : 234

Unread postby Bytesmiths » Sun 15 May 2005, 17:02:38

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('TheTurtle', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Bytesmiths', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('TheTurtle', 'T')he Turtle is an ENTJ.
Somehow, I envision someone calling themself "Turtle" would be an "I".
Not just "Turtle", "THE Turtle". 8)
Ah, yes -- anyone I've known who's first name was "THE" was definitely an "E".
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Unread postby some_guy282 » Mon 16 May 2005, 00:37:37

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Bytesmiths', 'I')'d like to suggest that any statistical correlation may not be cause and effect, but effect and cause. Or as my ecology prof, Larry Hansen, used to say, <i>"Correlation is not causation."</i> Sometimes, it's just the opposite!


Good point. Perhaps the reason we accept Peak Oil isn't because we're INTJ, but there certainly seems to be some sort of correlation with these personality types and the people on this site.

Maybe we only became INTJ's after we drank the Peak Oil cool aid? Who knows. I still think it's an interesting topic of discussion, even if there isn't necessarily causation.
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Unread postby johnmarkos » Mon 16 May 2005, 01:34:08

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('killJOY', 'Y')ou indeed said "nothing about belief" in the survey, and I was eliciting a response. Let me rephrase it: Does the result say anything to you about the nature of the MB test, which has been described as"self-deception"? http://skepdic.com/selfdeception.html

In my opinion, it is basically a parlor game. My results are about as interesting to me as a newspaper horoscope that tells me I will meet an unusual stranger today.

That's why I was a little taken aback when you implied that I was a "believer" in the MB test. Somebody proposed that we play this game and I was merely being a good sport.
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Unread postby oowolf » Mon 16 May 2005, 16:59:15

Question? Does anyone know when the plane hit the tower, was it the INTJ's who ran first and farthest?
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Unread postby some_guy282 » Tue 17 May 2005, 13:29:44

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('oowolf', 'Q')uestion? Does anyone know when the plane hit the tower, was it the INTJ's who ran first and farthest?


Um...huh? Could you clarify what you mean exactly by asking that, or are you just being extremely sarcastic?
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Unread postby MD » Wed 18 May 2005, 19:40:24

INFP...But near the middle in all counts.
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Unread postby oowolf » Thu 19 May 2005, 17:36:46

When the tower PA system announced "the tower is secure you may return to your desk--etc some people actually went back! I was just wandering if someone is aware of any study that indicates that intuitive personality types react on their own instead of waiting for a "consensus".
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Unread postby some_guy282 » Thu 19 May 2005, 19:35:29

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('oowolf', 'W')hen the tower PA system announced "the tower is secure you may return to your desk--etc some people actually went back! I was just wandering if someone is aware of any study that indicates that intuitive personality types react on their own instead of waiting for a "consensus".


I don't think there have been any such studies. INTJ/INTP's are the real free thinkers though.
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Unread postby TheTurtle » Thu 19 May 2005, 19:38:34

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I don't think there have been any such studies. INTJ/INTP's are the real free thinkers though.



And ENTJ/ENTPs are the unreal? :?
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Unread postby some_guy282 » Sat 21 May 2005, 00:29:12

LOL. No, they're the real deal too I guess. It's really the NT component that does it I think. That's why I liked the first site I found that had descriptions of all of the types. They had a very lengthy write up on the traits of all NT's, not just INTJ/INTP. The site is dead now though. :(
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Unread postby bobcousins » Sun 22 May 2005, 17:07:22

Normally I am highly sceptical of quack psychology, and hate being labelled. I think horoscopes are stupid, and you would be dumb to read them. I often turn to skepdic.com.

So when I first did a personality test on a training course, I was very skeptical. But the results amazed me. I don't believe it is just self delusion. While you can't just slice up a brain and post it into one of N pigeonholes, there are some obvious traits that people have, and people will lie somewhere in the range between extremes.

It is quite obvious to me that I am introvert, and it is no real surprise that answering a question like "would rather read a book instead of go to a party" should identify that.

That the selected types are not a definitive list, and that to a large extent it is not very objective is true, but not a killer in my view. I would view behaviour as an N-dimensional space, and people tend to prefer certain parts of that space. If you can pick a number of reasonably orthogonal traits, you can create a "fingerprint" of sorts.

Due to the way genes and evolution work, I would expect a large degree of personality type to be wired in to the brain. Its pretty clear that there is a physical difference between typically male and typically female brains, so it is not unreasonable to extend that to other personality traits. There is a physical predisposition to risk taking, for example.

By now you wlll have probably guessed my MB personality.
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Unread postby Bytesmiths » Sun 22 May 2005, 18:27:35

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('bobcousins', 'B')y now you wlll have probably guessed my MB personality.
INTP: "the analyst".

I might have also guessed INTJ, except for the preponderance of qualifiers in your prose: "normally," "I would expect," "it is not unreasonable," etc.

But there are also a number of absolutes: "I don't believe," "you can't just," "people will lie," etc.

In fact, you have more absolutes than qualifiers, but a <b>real</b> "J" rarely allows themself to be distracted by shades of gray at all.
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Unread postby oowolf » Tue 24 May 2005, 16:57:10

Interesting. I've always tested INTJ but I just retook the test and I'm now a INFJ. Recent events in my life and a PO obsession over the last year have apparently altered my personality---
Does anyone know how often this happens?
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Unread postby smallpoxgirl » Tue 24 May 2005, 21:31:59

You're turning all touchy feely huh Oowolf? Next thing you know you'll be a liberal. :-D (don't hit me!)
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Unread postby erl » Wed 25 May 2005, 01:59:46

This is a fascinating thread.

I tested INFP twice, several years apart.

Hardcore I
Hardcore N
Hardcore F
Waffling P

I note how many of the posters (at least on this thread) are introverts.

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Unread postby Claudia » Sun 12 Jun 2005, 21:33:35

I'm an INFJ (female). My detailed score said:

"You are:
moderately expressed introvert
moderately expressed intuitive personality
moderately expressed feeling personality
very expressed judging personality"

I have to say the personality description was dead on. I'm even in exactly the professional area they predict as the easy, obvious choice for an INFJ.
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Unread postby Claudia » Sun 12 Jun 2005, 22:20:17

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'D')ue to the way genes and evolution work, I would expect a large degree of personality type to be wired in to the brain. Its pretty clear that there is a physical difference between typically male and typically female brains, so it is not unreasonable to extend that to other personality traits. There is a physical predisposition to risk taking, for example.


I absolutely agree with you on this, bobcousins.

My dad and I share large parts of our personality -- we have a very particular, easily-identified cluster of personality traits that run back four consecutive generations (on his side of the family only). However, I think on testing he'd come out as an INTJ. It may be that we share the same underlying personality-influencing genes, but that the feminization of my brain (in utero estrogen/testosterone balance, etc.) tilts it toward INFJ.

I can't believe only 1% of the population is INFJ! That explains a lot about my life, if true...
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Unread postby bobcousins » Mon 13 Jun 2005, 17:51:16

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Bytesmiths', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('bobcousins', 'B')y now you wlll have probably guessed my MB personality.
INTP: "the analyst".


Spot on. Thats interesting, I realised I flagged a few things, but the writing style is the way I normally think/write, it had not occurred to me it was so transparent!

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('claudia', 'I') can't believe only 1% of the population is INFJ! That explains a lot about my life, if true...


I find it does actually help a lot to understand oneself (as long as you don't use these things just as a label to form a stereotyped false identity, which some people turn into a career). Knowledge is power etc.

But it is good that not everyone is like me, otherwise nothing would ever get done. :wink:
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Re: What Myers Briggs Personality Type are you?

Unread postby Grimnir » Wed 15 Jun 2005, 02:34:56

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('some_guy282', 'O')ne thing that has come up and seems to set us apart from everyone else is our Myers Briggs personality type. INTJ's and INTP's collectively only comprise about 3-5% of the total population, but when this topic has come up before on this site and others, 70-80% of Peak Oil believers fall into either one of those categorys.


Myers-Briggs has eventually come up on every messageboard I've ever read, and it always turns out that the majority are INTX. It's not that INTX's get peak oil; it's that they get messageboards.

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'I')nteresting. I've always tested INTJ but I just retook the test and I'm now a INFJ. Recent events in my life and a PO obsession over the last year have apparently altered my personality---
Does anyone know how often this happens?


According to the official MBTI theory, never. Your type is set at birth and never changes. You can learn to express/repress your tendencies to different extents as events demand, but you can't do anything to change the tendencies themselves. Again, according to the official theory. I have always tested as a strong INTP, but lately I've been making myself do a lot of SJ stuff because I've decided it may be necessary for survival. But that doesn't mean I like it. :)
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Unread postby I_Like_Plants » Wed 15 Jun 2005, 03:51:08

ESTJ, baby!! Normal! Whats'a'matter with all of you, no other ESTJ's on here??
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