[Sixstrings]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Pretorian', '1')0 Roman emperors were children of peasants from the same small Serbian village.

[Fiddlerdave]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Ludi', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('pstarr', 'I') am tired of explaining the obvious to these right-wing morons. They do not understand their own good fortune is the result of hundreds of years, generation upon generation of gratuitous good luck and access to power and privilege. Of course they don't see it that way, because they are stupid as well as greedy.

[Ludi]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Cog', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Ludi', '
')
so·ci·o·path
 
–noun Psychiatry

a person, as a psychopathic personality, whose behavior is one who believes in minding his own business, wants a smaller government role in his affairs and doesn't want a handout from others

[Ludi]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Sixstrings', '
')As for Rome, they were capitalist so there was a chance to come up from nothing and make your fortune through business.

[vision-master]

Taht's bc they are superior beings, just ask them. They operate under wealth entitlement.

[Pretorian]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('vtsnowedin', ' ') $this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Pretorian', '[')b]Most people get their fair chance in life without anyone spoon-feeding their parents (or them , for that matter). 10 Roman emperors were children of peasants from the same small Serbian village.
But anyway, there is a governmental structure that does it already. If children arent provided with shelter, food and clothing the state is taking care of those children. I only wish the state would take care of sexual apparatus of their parents as well.

[Cloud9]

So what are the chances of a child from the middle class?

[Sixstrings]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Pretorian', 'F')air to whom? I said ten were peasants from the same village.

[Ludi]

Yeah, kinda who the hell cares about the Romans?

In spite of how fantastic they were, there is no Roman Empire around these days.

[Serial_Worrier]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('pstarr', 'T')hese are the same sadistic dumb sh3ts who would begrudge a poor person a hit off a joint, or the opportunity to make a little money selling the same to the neighorhood ADULTS. They hide behind their bland white-bred version of Christianity when they are just stupid, self-defeating sadists.

These morons create class warfare and then talk about their Sig's. Well I have a Sig Saur also. Here is one liberal who is going the distance.

[Sixstrings]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Ludi', 'Y')eah, kinda who the hell cares about the Romans?

In spite of how fantastic they were, there is no Roman Empire around these days.

[Outcast_Searcher]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Ludi', 'W')here are the private charities to care for these people? Private charities, I'm told, are more than capable of caring for poor and disadvantaged people if the guvmint would just butt out.

[Sixstrings]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Outcast_Searcher', 'A') legitimate question. The answer I've seen posed over the past several years in several credible periodicals such as (if memory serves) The Atlantic Monthly and The Economist (and perhaps the WSJ). and others my sorry-a**ed memory refuses to produce, is that the left pushes so hard for so many government programs, that "typical" middle class citizens end up just assuming that "gubmint should be taking care of it -- after all, that's what all those taxes we pay and programs we hear about must be for".

[Outcast_Searcher]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Sixstrings', '
')(my point with this anecdotal story is that private charities aren't the government -- they're operated by volunteers, they're on shoestring budgets, they just don't have the money to provide the social safety net that government should)

[Sixstrings]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Outcast_Searcher', 'I') was saying that much of the middle class sees/hears SO MUCH about how much government does and is needed to take care of every perceived societal ill, that eventually they start to believe that government is actually DOING SOMETHING MEANINGFUL for those needing help.

[Pretorian]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Sixstrings', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Outcast_Searcher', 'A') legitimate question. The answer I've seen posed over the past several years in several credible periodicals such as (if memory serves) The Atlantic Monthly and The Economist (and perhaps the WSJ). and others my sorry-a**ed memory refuses to produce, is that the left pushes so hard for so many government programs, that "typical" middle class citizens end up just assuming that "gubmint should be taking care of it -- after all, that's what all those taxes we pay and programs we hear about must be for".

[Fiddlerdave]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Sixstrings', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Outcast_Searcher', 'I') was saying that much of the middle class sees/hears SO MUCH about how much government does and is needed to take care of every perceived societal ill, that eventually they start to believe that government is actually DOING SOMETHING MEANINGFUL for those needing help.

[Ludi]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Fiddlerdave', '
')It is complete fantasy people "do not give to the poor because they think the government does it", just as it is fantasy that fathers abandon their kids because the "government does it".