[Newfie]

That right there is one reason I gave up.

[Ibon]

Back in 2005 talking about peak oil to others was motivated by the need to validate your own discovery of this grave issue. There was this need to share your discovery and have others understand it also. Somewhat evangelical.

We also talked back then about oil companies, Cera, AEI and the government intentionally keeping a lid on this issue so we all felt like little peak oil Robin Hoods wanting to let the poor masses know what big brother was hiding from them.

My position today has entered into a whole new territory. I am questioning the benefits of even sharing this with others and coming up with some contradictory opinions.

Years ago I lived in South Florida and used to despair of the massive dimension of surburbia and all the folks living these artificial lives moving from one air conditioned cubicle to the next. Avocados, mangoes, bananas, guavas, key limes, oranges, tamarinds, lychee, longan, papayas, grapefruits. These are just some of the fruit that were growing in my immediate vicinity that were left on the trees to rot. My wife and I would go out and forage all this abundance. We had neighbors grateful that we picked their oranges. They told us they fell on the ground and rotted and made a mess. I asked them why they didn't eat them. They looked at me baffled and said, "Are they edible"? They were actually afraid to eat a fruit off a tree that didn't come from the store. At some point I started to appreciate my neighbors ignorance. We had a virtual cornucopia of fruit in our neighborhood all for us.

So I pose a question. What benefit is there to wake up 300 million Americans living in suburbia that in the near future resource constraints are going to squeeze down even harder on their already tenuous situation after the sub prime bust.

Do we really want 300 million people waking up?

Today I am not so sure.

[Crazy_Dad]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Ibon', '
')So I pose a question. What benefit is there to wake up 300 million Americans living in suburbia that in the near future resource constraints are going to squeeze down even harder on their already tenuous situation after the sub prime bust.

Do we really want 300 million people waking up?

Today I am not so sure.

[lulubel]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Ibon', 'D')o we really want 300 million people waking up?

[vision-master]

The word of Peak Oil is an old fear based cleshay now. The word now is as a collective we need to change our ways with the way we live on this Planet.

One 'word' is the understanding of how false our time keeping system is. What we assume to be 'just the way it is' aka, 24/7/365 is a man made device of slavery removing us from the natural world.....