[OilsNotWell]

Sometimes I am wise enough to know that I am wise enough to know I don't know...

We probably have far more in common than not.

I think you strongly believe in honor, as do I. DU/U-238 has no honor. It is a chemical, biological, AND radiological toxin. AT ANY DOSE. There is no SAFE level. The stronger the dose, the stronger the effects. This also has been proven. Gen. Groves, in charge of the Manhatten Project, refused to use DU for its horrific genetic effects, and then, well...here we are. Aren't you outraged too? I think you should be.

GWS HAS been shown to be tied to DU/U-238, by top-notch docs and scientists. Look for it, it's there. History does repeat itself. Just think Agent Orange. . YOUR government has a proven history of experimenting, whether its chemicals, drugs, or what have you, on its citizens and soldiers without their knowledge or consent. I could prove this to you, too, but you should be curious enough to look it up for yourself. Again, you just have to get past the notion that unless it's coming from the source of the problem, or from those directly tied to benefitting from the denial of its effects, it's unbelievable. It would be sort of like waiting to convict Charlie Manson until he first admits he did it...

And, again, please read the info and the links in the previous posts and threads thoroughly. Please. You will find it harder to continue to repeat that DU, which is U-238, is harmless in the manner you described.

[Specop_007]

I watched the Army training video you posted, but will read the other links tonight.
From everything I've seen though DU as a risk is relatively minor unless your doing lines of it. From an everyday standpoint it really is pretty harmless.

But, I'll read more tonight.

Right now I'm reading this which again confirms what I've been saying.
Long as your not sprinkling it on your Wheaties, its a negligible issue. Well, that and dont go climbing on tanks which have been hit with the stuff.

[Specop_007]

Before we continue (or if we even do) I think its important to decide what exactly we're argueing.
I'm not saying DU is this great harmless stuff we should hand out to kids in school.
But I am saying its not near the death powder, Devil in the works poison the liberal media would have us believe it is.

And yes, regardless of whether the media is liberal or not on other issues, the media IS liberal and highly inaccurate when it comes to weapons.

[rerere]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Specop_007', '
')I hope your not implying that picture is from DU, becuase its not.
.

[rerere]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Specop_007', 'T')he pictures are false. Oils can post all his bullshit propoganda he wants, those pictures ARE FALSE.

[rerere]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Specop_007', 'B')efore we continue (or if we even do) I think its important to decide what exactly we're argueing.

[killJOY]

Shall we take a little breather?

We're all in this together as peakers.

On the issue of DU, somebody is getting jerked around.

Either I'm being jerked around emotionally by liars out to discredit the military, or folks like specop are being jerked around emotionally by government liars out to cover up their atrocities.

As for liberal/conservative....let's not forget that the US has fought several of these DU wars (since the Israelis first used DU in the 70s), one of which was supervised by that bimbo-blimp, Clinton. Is he a "liberal"? I supposed if you listen to Limbaugh he is. His DU war was sandwiched between the two Bush DU wars. My point: they ALL suck.

Now "liberal media".... Mr Specop, I would not be able to evaluate whether the "media" (VERY broad term) is "liberal" (VERY subjective term) or not because I have not watched a G-damn television since 1985. I don't go to movies because I would not give those vain b*stards in hollywood a dime, and I only subscribe to the local Pabulum newspaper because it's the only game in town. NOT A BIT OF MY DU KNOWLEDGE COMES FROM THOSE SOURCES. It's exactly like peak oil...while reading about something else on line, I came across and article, which led me to another article...etc.

I hate the government. I hate them all, Democrat and Republican. I hope they lose their stupid-ass war and this country is freed from the Corporate party which currently rules it.

These strong feelings of mine DON'T HAVE A DAMN THING to do with whether or not the claims of Leuren Moret, Major Rokke, Iliya Pesic, Melissa Sterry, Dr. Chris Busby, and Staff Sergeant Raymond Ramos are true or not.

I'll close with a well-known Kissinger quote:


$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', '[')b] “Military men are just dumb stupid animals to be used as pawns in foreign policy.”

[Specop_007]

Trust me Killjoy, in terms of weapons the media is HIGHLY liberal. In their eyes, EVERYTHING is extremely dangerous and should be banned.

As for rerere, once again his only point is to try and throw mud and drag things off topic.
Had he bothered to check my link to the medical site he would see DU isnt what causes those birth defects.

Oh, and the Geneva Convention doesnt apply to us when fighting terrorists, but we've been through that one.

[killJOY]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'T')rust me Killjoy, in terms of weapons the media is HIGHLY liberal. In their eyes, EVERYTHING is extremely dangerous and should be banned.

[Specop_007]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Raphael', '[')b]Specop_007$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'I')'m feeling 100% correct. How are you feeling.

Oh, almost forgot.

I just owned you

Theres the info on that "horrible DU caused disease"

As I said, its NOT because of DU. DU is NOT dangerously radioactive. Period. End of story. Check the link I gave you, then google some images of it.

[Specop_007]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('killJOY', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'T')rust me Killjoy, in terms of weapons the media is HIGHLY liberal. In their eyes, EVERYTHING is extremely dangerous and should be banned.

[Liamj]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Specop_007', 'I') watched the Army training video you posted, but will read the other links tonight.
From everything I've seen though DU as a risk is relatively minor unless your doing lines of it. From an everyday standpoint it really is pretty harmless.

But, I'll read more tonight.

[smallpoxgirl]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Specop_007', 'R')ight now I'm reading this which again confirms what I've been saying.

[Specop_007]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Liamj', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Specop_007', 'I') watched the Army training video you posted, but will read the other links tonight.
From everything I've seen though DU as a risk is relatively minor unless your doing lines of it. From an everyday standpoint it really is pretty harmless.

But, I'll read more tonight.

[Specop_007]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('smallpoxgirl', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Specop_007', 'R')ight now I'm reading this which again confirms what I've been saying.

[rerere]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Specop_007', 'A')s for rerere, once again his only point is to try and throw mud and drag things off topic.

[Specop_007]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('rerere', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Specop_007', 'A')s for rerere, once again his only point is to try and throw mud and drag things off topic.

[smallpoxgirl]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Specop_007', 'T')hat site used to sell depleted uranium, however it seems there out right now. It was godawful expensive though. I'm sure if you contacted them they could get more.

[rerere]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Specop_007', '
')Uranium ore. How much you want?

From that link:
"any attempt to machine it or cut it will produce small chips that ignite on contact with air producing radioactive smoke."

Lets see that would make:
1) "nanoparticles" - nanoparticles have been known to be mutinigenic.
2) Radioactivity - again, a mutigan
3) Heavy Metal - Oh, look. Another mutation agent.

Yet, SpecOP_007 said "I hope your not implying that picture is from DU, because its not" (the deleted the quote hoping no one would notice) in response to an obviously mutated birth.

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Specop_007', 'N')o one has even mentioned any testing or usage of chemicals by Saddam, its only been throwing mud about Americas use of DU. Kinda funny really.