[PrestonSturges]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('efarmer', 'G')lenn Beck took a turn for the good yesterday in my opinion. He got people who are unhappy and lonesome for something better to get together and to leave the signs that indicate it is someone else's fault at home. He did the same thing that Obama did during his campaign at times although both fall back on scapegoats and
enemies that must be conquered so things can get better.

[Ludi]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('PrestonSturges', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('efarmer', 'G')lenn Beck took a turn for the good yesterday in my opinion. He got people who are unhappy and lonesome for something better to get together and to leave the signs that indicate it is someone else's fault at home. He did the same thing that Obama did during his campaign at times although both fall back on scapegoats and
enemies that must be conquered so things can get better.

[PrestonSturges]

Besides 300,000 people is like a 5 or 6 NFL games or a small city of people. You would have seen traffic jams on the beltway, hours long lines at the Metro station, gridlock as all these tourists try to leave at once, hundreds of extra police. It would be like a hurricane evacuation. You would have seen an impact on the whole region's transportation grid.

Plus Metro records would show a big spike in ridership. They count heads.

[Pops]

Cloud I agree completely with you, government is far too big and needs to be cut down to size and I hope you won't take offense when I say it's probably the bureaucrat class that needs the most pruning - not the firemen, cops or teachers.

How many management and clerk types have been laid off in your area if I may ask?

Fed.gov with 2 million workers is the biggest employer in the country, and combined state and local workers are another 8 million. The military is what, another million, more? What is the percentage I wonder of seat warmers vs. cop/teacher/soldier? 20%, 30?

I'm thinking we aren't going to see many rallies to cut back on county file clerks.

I linked the story about the people like Murdock and Koch who foot the bill and coin the slogans like "Fair and Balanced" because it gets my goat to see people with valid concerns played. The US pays less in taxes than any other large rich world country but the super rich are working to make sure their gains from the Reagan Revolution stay in place and anyone out of the .01% club be damned. Add in Obama and the dems plan to balance the budget on the merely successful > $250k crowd and it looks to me like if you are a successful small business guy you are in a bad place.
Nice graph here

[efarmer]

Glenn Beck had a little of Dr. King's great spirit shine on him yesterday. I cannot and will not defend his behavior nor can I claim to have a clue as to what makes him believe that if people are divided enough into bins and categories and taught what divides them instead of what unites them, then his favorite bin of people will emerge victorious. Beck was thrust by fate to behave more from his faith in God, or what is just and right, than his belief in the divisive spew of nonsense he has made his living from. If it takes on his personage or not remains to be seen. Whenever we catch ourselves or someone else doing good it should be acknowledged. It is the way out of the slime pit.

America is being divided to create a diversion while it is being plundered from within. If Beck stands for what he believes in, he is going to face a moment of truth about how he works towards it.

[Ludi]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Pops', 'A')dd in Obama and the dems plan to balance the budget on the merely successful > $250k crowd

[PrestonSturges]

Beck seems to ready for the movie "A Face In The Crowd" where a shifty amoral alcoholic hobo (young Andy Griffith) becomes an evangelist conman and eventually returns happily to being a shifty amoral alcoholic hobo.

His "Anti- Marxism" song and dance s material that is way over his head philosophically, and it just might be that his relentless fawning over Hitler and using Hitler quotes as his own and using Hitler themes was turning up the heat.

The religious thing is way easier to debunk, especially when he pals up with Barton, the notorious conman and fraud.

[PrestonSturges]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('efarmer', 'G')lenn Beck had a little of Dr. King's great spirit shine on him yesterday. I cannot and will not defend his behavior nor can I claim to have a clue as to what makes him believe that if people are divided enough into bins and categories and taught what divides them instead of what unites them, then his favorite bin of people will emerge victorious.

[PrestonSturges]

Here's 400,000 at the Lincoln Memorial. No chairs, no blankets, shoulder to shoulder at least half the distance from the WW2 memorial to the Washington Monument. Photographer probably standing on retaining wall encircling Washington monument. 400,000 on a COLD january day, just at that end of the Mall.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Barac ... _crowd.jpg

[Plantagenet]

The Wall Street Journal had a photo this morning of Al Sharpton giving a speech at his rally. I counted 37 people in the crowd------there are probably more people in the room when Al Sharpton meets with Obama in the White House!

[PrestonSturges]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Plantagenet', 'T')he Wall Street Journal had a photo this morning of Al Sharpton giving a speech at his rally. I counted 37 people in the crowd------there are probably more people in the room when Al Sharpton meets with Obama in the White House!

[PrestonSturges]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('pstarr', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Pops', '[')url=http://www.nytimes.com/2010/08/29/opinion/29rich.html?_r=1&ref=opinion]The Billionaires Bankrolling the Tea Party[/url]
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'T')ea Partiers may share the Kochs’ detestation of taxes, big government and Obama. But there’s a difference between mainstream conservatism and a fringe agenda that tilts completely toward big business, whether on Wall Street or in the Gulf of Mexico, while dismantling fundamental government safety nets designed to protect the unemployed, public health, workplace safety and the subsistence of the elderly.

[Cloud9]

Pstar, Pops, and Preston the political class is winning. It’s the same thing the elite did a hundred years ago to the two sharecroppers standing before them. The elite reminded them that they were different colors and set them at each others throats for a hundred years. While they clawed at each other they forgot about the shacks they lived in, their starving children and the piss poor future in front of them. Race was every thing. It worked. The power brokers got richer.

The rich guys are always going to play us against each other. That is why they are the rich guys. As pointed out, real wealth is in commodities. When public restrooms are posting signs asking people not to use their dollars as toilet paper, the guy with a sack of potatoes will have something to trade.

We can play this game which really is their game the rest of our lives. You can point out that Faux News is pro Republican. I can point out that the vast majority of CNN staffers donated to Democratic campaigns. You can point out that rich civil libertarians are pumping money into the Tea Party. I can point out that Goldman Sachs and George Soros are pumping money into the Democratic Party.

If you think any source of news is fair and balanced, you haven’t thought it out. Everybody talks their own book.

You can paint everyone on the green as Nazis, but think about what you are doing. The two women that I know who went don’t want to put anybody in an oven. All you are doing is enabling the real Nazis. By telling these people that they are Nazis, you are making the real Nazis seem more main stream.

We have got to find common ground. We have got to stop talking past each other. We must change our course or the collapse will change it for us.

[Ludi]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Cloud9', '
')We have got to find common ground. We have got to stop talking past each other. We must change our course or the collapse will change it for us.

[Cloud9]

Starve the beast. Tell every government agency that it must cut its budget by 5% every year for the next five years.

[Ludi]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Cloud9', 'S')tarve the beast. Tell every government agency that it must cut its budget by 5% every year for the next five years.

[Cloud9]

I work for government. If you want to give me more money I will take it. The service I provide will not improve. Pay me five percent less and I will still do the same job.

If you think we are on the right track then let us continue. Hyperinflation is my real concern. This scares the crap out of me.

http://www.usdebtclock.org/

[PrestonSturges]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Cloud9', '
')
You can paint everyone on the green as Nazis, but think about what you are doing. The two women that I know who went don’t want to put anybody in an oven. All you are doing is enabling the real Nazis. By telling these people that they are Nazis, you are making the real Nazis seem more main stream.

We have got to find common ground. We have got to stop talking past each other. We must change our course or the collapse will change it for us.

[Plantagenet]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Cloud9', 'T')ell every government agency that it must cut its budget by 5% every year for the next five years.