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High Finance And Corporate Pot, California-Style

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Re: High Finance And Corporate Pot, California-Style

Unread postby americandream » Sun 01 Aug 2010, 07:30:16

But then again:

The link between cannabis and cancer

Whether cannabis can cause cancer is not a simple question to answer. We know from very clear evidence that tobacco causes cancer. But we are still learning about the effects of cannabis and whether it has the same effects as tobacco. There are a number of factors that suggest cannabis may cause cancer

http://www.cancerhelp.org.uk/about-canc ... use-cancer
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Re: High Finance And Corporate Pot, California-Style

Unread postby Carlhole » Sun 01 Aug 2010, 16:43:09

CNN:Getting Paid For Taking Bong-Hits

(video segment)

Dude is one of the first paid marijuana critics in the nation.
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Re: High Finance And Corporate Pot, California-Style

Unread postby timmac » Sun 01 Aug 2010, 16:54:01

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Carlhole', '[')url=http://money.cnn.com/video/news/2010/07/28/n_pot_weed_marijuana_critic.cnnmoney/]CNN:Getting Paid For Taking Bong-Hits[/url]

(video segment)

Dude is one of the first paid marijuana critics in the nation.


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Re: High Finance And Corporate Pot, California-Style

Unread postby Carlhole » Sun 01 Aug 2010, 17:51:07

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('pstarr', 'I') just returned from a tour of the SunValley bulb farm. Largest indoor grow in the country--seventy acres under glass (five hundred outdoor)-- HPS lights, gas heat, fans, steam/methyl bromide sterilization, etc. Had a conversation with the general manager. He said the board was conservative and they are not pursuing the business. He also said it made sense. The bulbs/cut flowers are a winter crop and the greenhouses are idle all summer--pot season. We both went hummm? What is good business?


I didn't understand what you are saying. The General Manager said that the board is not pursuing the bulb business or the pot business?

Why wouldn't they grow pot in idle greenhouses during the summer?
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Re: High Finance And Corporate Pot, California-Style

Unread postby TWilliam » Mon 02 Aug 2010, 01:35:25

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('americandream', 'B')ut then again:

The link between cannabis and cancer

Whether cannabis can cause cancer is not a simple question to answer. We know from very clear evidence that tobacco causes cancer. But we are still learning about the effects of cannabis and whether it has the same effects as tobacco. There are a number of factors that suggest cannabis may cause cancer

http://www.cancerhelp.org.uk/about-canc ... use-cancer

On the other hand, recent research is suggestive:

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', '&')quot;... we show that cannabinoid administration selectively down-regulates MMP-2 [matrix metalloproteinases] expression in mice bearing gliomas as well as in two patients with recurrent glioblastoma multiforme. Cannabinoid-induced inhibition of MMP-2 expression was also evident in cultured glioma cells, indicating that the changes observed in gliomas in vivo reflect—at least in part—the direct effect of cannabinoids on tumor cells. MMP-2 expression is upregulated in almost all human cancers, including gliomas, and this has been shown to be closely associated with negative prognosis."

"As MMP-2 up-regulation is associated with high progression and poor prognosis of gliomas and many other tumors, MMP-2 downregulation constitutes a new hallmark of cannabinoid antitumoral activity."

Source: Cristina Bla´zquez, Marı´a Salazar, Arkaitz Carracedo, Mar Lorente, Ainara Egia, Luis Gonza´lez-Feria, Amador Haro, Guillermo Velasco, and Manuel Guzman, "Cannabinoids Inhibit Glioma Cell Invasion by Down-regulating Matrix Metalloproteinase-2 Expression," Cancer Research (March 2008), pp. 1951 and 1945.
http://cancerres.aacrjournals.org/cgi/r ... 6/1945.pdf



$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', '&')quot;In conclusion, a cannabinoid-based therapeutic strategy for neural diseases devoid of undesired psychotropic side effects could find in CBD [a cannabinoid] a valuable compound in cancer therapies along with the perspective of evaluating a synergistic effect with other cannabinoid molecules and/or with other chemotherapeutic agents as well as with radiotherapy. Whatever the precise mechanism underlying the CBD effects, the present results suggest a possible application of CBD as a promising, nonpsychoactive, antineoplastic agent."

Source: Massi, Paola; Vaccani, Angelo; Ceruti, Stefania; Colombo, Arianna; Abbracchio, Maria P., and Parolaro, Daniela, "Antitumor Effects of Cannabidiol, a Nonpsychoactive Cannabinoid, on Human Glioma Cell Lines," The Journal of Pharmacology and Experimental Therapeutics (Bethesda, MD: The American Society for Pharmacology and Experimental Therapeutics, March 2004) Vol. 308, p. 845.
http://jpet.aspetjournals.org/content/3 ... 8.full.pdf



$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', '&')quot;Cannabinoids have a favourable drug safety profile. Acute fatal cases due to cannabis use in humans have not been substantiated, and median lethal doses of THC in animals have been extrapolated to several grams per kilogram of body weight. Cannabinoids are usually well tolerated in animal studies and do not produce the generalized toxic effects of most conventional chemotherapeutic agents. For example, in a 2-year administration of high oral doses of THC to rats and mice, no marked histopathological alterations in the brain and other organs were found. Moreover, THC treatment tended to increase survival and lower the incidence of primary tumours. Similarly, long-term epidemiological surveys, although scarce and difficult to design and interpret, usually show that neither patients under prolonged medical cannabinoid treatment nor regular cannabis smokers have marked alterations in a wide array of physiological, neurological and blood tests."

Source: Guzman, Manuel, "Cannabinoids: Potential Anticancer Agents." Nature Reviews: Cancer (October 2003), p. 752.
http://www.brainlife.org/reprint/2003/g ... 031000.pdf


$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', '&')quot;Cannabinoids, the active components of marijuana and their other natural and synthetic analogues have been reported as useful adjuvants to conventional chemotherapeutic regimens for preventing nausea, vomiting, pain, and for stimulating appetite. Before the discovery of specific cannabinoid systems and receptors, it was speculated that cannabinoids produced their effects via nonspecific interaction with cell membranes. Cannabinoids are proving to be unique based on their targeted action on cancer cells and their ability to spare normal cells. Variation in the effects of cannabinoids in different cell lines and tumor model could be due to the differential expression of CB1 and CB2 receptors. Thus, overexpression of cannabinoid receptors may be effective in killing tumors, whereas low or no expression of these receptors could lead to cell proliferation and metastasis because of the suppression of the antitumor immune response."

Source: Sarfaraz, Sami; Adhami, Vaqar M.; Syed, Deeba N.; Afaq, Farrukh; and Mukhtar, Hasan, "Cannabinoids for Cancer Treatment: Progress and Promise," Cancer Research (Philadelphia, PA: American Association for Cancer Research, January 2008) Vol. 68, pp. 341-342.
http://cancerres.aacrjournals.org/cgi/r ... /2/339.pdf



$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', '&')quot;In conclusion, our data indicate that cannabidiol, and possibly Cannabis extracts enriched in this natural cannabinoid, represent a promising nonpsychoactive antineoplastic strategy. In particular, for a highly malignant human breast carcinoma cell line, we have shown here that cannabidiol and a cannabidiol-rich extract counteract cell growth both in vivo and in vitro as well as tumor metastasis in vivo. Cannabidiol exerts its effects on these cells through a combination of mechanisms that include either direct or indirect activation of CB2 and TRPV1 receptors and induction of oxidative stress, all contributing to induce apoptosis."

Source: Ligresti, Alessia; Moriello, Aniello Schiano; Starowicz, Katarzyna; Matias, Isabel; Pisanti, Simona; De Petrocellis, Luciano; Laezza, Chiara; Portella, Giuseppe; Bifulco, Maurizio; and Di Marzo, Vincenzo, "Antitumor Activity of Plant Cannabinoids with Emphasis on the Effect of Cannabidiol on Human Breast Carcinoma," The Journal of Pharmacology and Experimental Therapeutics (Bethesda, MD: The American Society for Pharmacology and Experimental Therapeutics, March 2004) Vol. 318, No. 3, pp. 1386-1387.
http://jpet.aspetjournals.org/content/3 ... 5.full.pdf
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Re: High Finance And Corporate Pot, California-Style

Unread postby Carlhole » Mon 02 Aug 2010, 05:38:51

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('pstarr', 'T')he company is international, and sells flowers where pot remains illegal and he thought it would bring bad press.


I wonder why they don't just form a separate company to grow pot and rent the existing facility to it so it's not wasting idle assets?

Pretty stupid, IMO. Apparently everybody and his crazy Uncle Carl is trying to get into the medical marijuana business. Those guys don't have to shell out any money to do it. They're just throwing a good opportunity away.

I bet the pot genome is going to be jiggered-around to produce a variety of useful medical products and a whole bunch of interesting high-producing strains too. Valentine's Day will never be the same.
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Re: High Finance And Corporate Pot, California-Style

Unread postby Carlhole » Tue 03 Aug 2010, 16:08:40

'Just Say Now': Left-Right Coalition Launches Campaign To Legalize Pot

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'A') transpartisan coalition of prosecutors, judges, cops, students, bloggers and political operatives on both sides of the aisle launched a campaign Tuesday to bring an end to marijuana prohibition, focusing on ballot initiatives in 2010 and 2012. The campaign, "Just Say Now," gets its name from Nancy Reagan's iconic anti-drug slogan from the 1980s that has become synonymous with the government's black-and-white approach to drug policy.

"The stars are aligning in a very interesting way with Tea Party activists, who are generally libertarian," said Aaron Houston, head of Students for Sensible Drug Policy, on a conference call Tuesday afternoon announcing the formation of the coalition. "On the right and left it's a very popular issue."


Strange how the one dang thing that the Left and Right agree about is pot legalization. Heh heh.
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Re: High Finance And Corporate Pot, California-Style

Unread postby timmac » Tue 03 Aug 2010, 18:17:07

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Carlhole', '
')Strange how the one dang thing that the Left and Right agree about is pot legalization. Heh heh.


Except for AD he is a hard head and will never change.. :lol:
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Re: High Finance And Corporate Pot, California-Style

Unread postby americandream » Tue 03 Aug 2010, 18:20:05

What left? You mean the champagne drinking closet fascists subsidised by the war machine rampaging across the third world? :lol:

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('timmac', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Carlhole', '
')Strange how the one dang thing that the Left and Right agree about is pot legalization. Heh heh.


Except for AD he is a hard head and will never change.. :lol:
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Re: High Finance And Corporate Pot, California-Style

Unread postby TWilliam » Tue 03 Aug 2010, 20:44:18

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('americandream', 'Y')ou mean the champagne drinking closet fascists subsidised by the war machine rampaging across the third world? :lol:

You know, when it comes right down to it, anyone complaining about 'the war machine rampaging across the third world' on an internet forum, which exists solely as an adjunct of a technological society also subsidized by that same 'war machine', is a hypocrite. When you dump your computer, get rid of your electric lighting, do away with any and all other 'modern conveniences' that you might possess and refrain from using any and all public services (roads, sanitation, water, etc.), then you might be in a position to be taken seriously. Until then, your protestations ring exceedingly hollow, so give it a rest...
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