[Carlhole]

Documentary: "The Union - The Business Of Getting High

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'T')he film explores the illegal growth, sale and trafficking of marijuana. Its theatrical run was limited to film festivals. The film follows host Adam Scorgie as he examines the underground market, interviewing growers, police officers, criminologists, economists, doctors, politicians and pop culture icons, revealing how the industry can function despite being a criminal enterprise. The history of marijuana and the reasons for its present prohibition are discussed, often comparing it to the prohibition of alcohol in the United States in the 1920s, suggesting that gang drug warfare and other negative aspects associated with marijuana are a result of prohibition, not the drug itself. The gangs that grow and traffic the drugs are likened to those that appeared in major U.S. cities during the Prohibition, with the intention of profiting from the sale of illegal alcohol.

[americandream]

Weed will be legalised soon. Nothing of value remains uncommodified in capitalism. These drug war lords are destined to be upstanding heads of multi-nationals with impeccable Republican credentials. All this fretting is unnecessary.

However when we take the reigns, this will all be over and you will have to pull your socks up.

[Carlhole]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('americandream', '.')..you will have to pull your socks up.

[americandream]

I would strongly advise that you jettison degenerate behaviour and develop a sense of discipline. These times we live in are exceptional.

Anyways, nuff said on this topic. Time will work it's magic and illusions will be dispelled.

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Carlhole', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('americandream', '.')..you will have to pull your socks up.

[TWilliam]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('americandream', 'A')t least read my posts before rabbiting on.

[Carlhole]

Documentary: "The Union - The Business Of Getting High

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'T')he 2007 film explores the illegal growth, sale and trafficking of marijuana. Its theatrical run was limited to film festivals. The film follows host Adam Scorgie as he examines the underground market, interviewing growers, police officers, criminologists, economists, doctors, politicians and pop culture icons, revealing how the industry can function despite being a criminal enterprise. The history of marijuana and the reasons for its present prohibition are discussed, often comparing it to the prohibition of alcohol in the United States in the 1920s, suggesting that gang drug warfare and other negative aspects associated with marijuana are a result of prohibition, not the drug itself. The gangs that grow and traffic the drugs are likened to those that appeared in major U.S. cities during the Prohibition, with the intention of profiting from the sale of illegal alcohol.

[americandream]

South Africas woes are precisely because of the global machine that keeps YOU well fed, with ample spare time on your hands, and bored. The US was a stout supporter of the apartheid regime for many a decade and the woes that the country suffers today are BECAUSE of that. The ganga epidemic is essentially an effect of that cause. And this is what Africa thinks of your precious weed:

http://allafrica.com/stories/201004070072.html

No doubt you will have a comeback with excuses. However, all this agitation for the legalisation of pot wordwide is being driven by interests eager to tap into this plants street value, one which is phenomenal given that we have a vast group of bored relatively well off individuals with ample spare cash in hand and time rich as well. Legalisation in the US will set a trend worldwide that will further destroy third world already disadvantaged societies, which will not bother you in my opinion, if your silence on the current monkey business underway in these parts of the world is anything to go by.

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('TWilliam', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('americandream', 'A')t least read my posts before rabbiting on.

[TWilliam]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('americandream', 'L')egalisation in the US will set a trend worldwide that will further destroy third world already disadvantaged societies, which will not bother you in my opinion, if your silence on the current monkey business underway in these parts of the world is anything to go by.

[americandream]

You don't set the agenda for topics (Within reason, seeing as you are a moderator. If challenging the legalisation measures underway in an influential part of an extremely influential geo-political entity is unreasonable, then say so, in your capacity as a moderating authority. With that in mind, it is my view is that this topic is a red herring for the real issues.)

As for your silence, where is all the "liberal" angst at wars of resourcing in contrast with the endless and loud declarations for the legalisation of a leisure activity from the already well fed and pampered?

The odd half hearted whimper, yes, but anything that matches the hand wringing over the "injustice" of laws on weed, laws which will, in any event, be swept aside in the rush to profit from this very profitable activity!

A rush which must evident even to you at the very least when you have declared right wingers like timmac raising the flag of legalisation! Weed is headed for full scale commercialisation, that is guaranteed and as usual, the poor countries will suffer even more social dislocation whilst you puff away to your hearts content. I for one am not going to be a part of that fiasco.

Legalise pot, gays in the army...whilst millions of kids get their heads blown away so as we can get to run our cars cheaply! This is an utter disgrace and is standing the politics of radical change on its head.

edit: legalisation to avoid enriching a network that stretches all the way back to countries run by Western friendly despots and gangsters fails to ask the question, why are our supposed allies in these places mismanaging their economies to this degree; and fails to acknowledge the corrupt nature of these governments.

Under the Marxists, there was no need for a subsistence farmer to resort to drug related activities in Afghanistan. In addition, drug growing and taking was strictly forbidden, including so called benign ones. Do we hear of the Cubans handing their communes over to drug overlords? No, this is going on in countries timmac probably views as free market friendly. Remove these dictactors and we remove the lines of illegality back to the West and kill with one stroke, the source of this illegality. Legalise this activity, and we tie these places into servicing a leisure activity that has far more of a negative effect on the already poor and disemployed.

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('TWilliam', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('americandream', 'L')egalisation in the US will set a trend worldwide that will further destroy third world already disadvantaged societies, which will not bother you in my opinion, if your silence on the current monkey business underway in these parts of the world is anything to go by.

[timmac]

AD I think you are looking into this to deep, how does legalizing pot have any thing to do with the war ??..

I mean really now it will actually help things out here and even in NZ if it was legal, no wasted tax dollars fighting something that is totally unwinnable..

Wake Up and Shut Up..

[Hoops_Mckann]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Carlhole', '[')url=http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-9077214414651731007#][/url]

Documentary: "The Union - The Business Of Getting High

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'T')he 2007 film explores the illegal growth, sale and trafficking of marijuana. Its theatrical run was limited to film festivals. The film follows host Adam Scorgie as he examines the underground market, interviewing growers, police officers, criminologists, economists, doctors, politicians and pop culture icons, revealing how the industry can function despite being a criminal enterprise. The history of marijuana and the reasons for its present prohibition are discussed, often comparing it to the prohibition of alcohol in the United States in the 1920s, suggesting that gang drug warfare and other negative aspects associated with marijuana are a result of prohibition, not the drug itself. The gangs that grow and traffic the drugs are likened to those that appeared in major U.S. cities during the Prohibition, with the intention of profiting from the sale of illegal alcohol.

[americandream]

Read my reply to twilliams. The gangs, overlords and turf wars are a result of past Cold War intrigues. Legalising the activity whilst the source remains mismanaged consigns these poor wretches to economies that will at best be mere shadows of what constitues an economy that serves its masses.

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('timmac', 'A')D I think you are looking into this to deep, how does legalizing pot have any thing to do with the war ??..

I mean really now it will actually help things out here and even in NZ if it was legal, no wasted tax dollars fighting something that is totally unwinnable..

Wake Up and Shut Up..

[americandream]

We have the same situation over here hoops mccann where huge sectors of the rural economy revolve around this leisure product and it is very profitable it must be said. There is an equal push to legalise this from vested interests in NZ, interests which have have noted the addictive nature of this drug and its attraction to youth, associated as it is with the hedonistic lifestyles that have sprung up around cheap oil and what constitutes being cool. And it will be legalised in due course, of that I am sure. There's money in them thar plants.

[careinke]

You guys are unbelievable. First, Pot is not addictive. Can anyone give me a scientific study that shows Pot is addictive to a greater degree than say …coffee? Of course you can’t because it is not true. How about toxicity? Give me ONE example of anyone ever dying as a direct medical result of using pot. Good luck, because it never happened.

Second, Show me a scientific study that shows pot use makes you lazy. Man just think how much more Steve Jobs, Paul Allen, Malcom Forbes, the last four presidents, Al Gore, the governor of California, and virtually every rock band, would have done if they just had not smoked pot.

Finally, what gives you the right, (or anyone else for that matter), to tell me what I can put into my own body? Who hired you to be my parent? Even if pot made me lazy, so what? I pay taxes, I’m not receiving government handouts that cost you money. It’s my life and I would prefer you and everyone else to stay out of it. In return I’ll stay out of your life. Fair enough?

[americandream]

If you can ensure that your government stops subsidising your habit with resource wars, then hey, be my guest.

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('careinke', 'Y')ou guys are unbelievable. First, Pot is not addictive. Can anyone give me a scientific study that shows Pot is addictive to a greater degree than say …coffee? Of course you can’t because it is not true. How about toxicity? Give me ONE example of anyone ever dying as a direct medical result of using pot. Good luck, because it never happened.

Second, Show me a scientific study that shows pot use makes you lazy. Man just think how much more Steve Jobs, Paul Allen, Malcom Forbes, the last four presidents, Al Gore, the governor of California, and virtually every rock band, would have done if they just had not smoked pot.

Finally, what gives you the right, (or anyone else for that matter), to tell me what I can put into my own body? Who hired you to be my parent? Even if pot made me lazy, so what? I pay taxes, I’m not receiving government handouts that cost you money. It’s my life and I would prefer you and everyone else to stay out of it. In return I’ll stay out of your life. Fair enough?

[careinke]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'I')f you can ensure that your government stops subsidising your habit with resource wars, then hey, be my guest.

[americandream]

If the pro-weed lobby acted with the outrage you do everytime someone took away your rollup, with regards to the actions of predatory govenments, the problem would at least be on the radar. Instead, you run about the place, stoned out of your skulls barely comprehending what day of the week it is, let alone who is ripping off whom.

As for communism, it will happen, it will be decisive and disciplined and you had better get used to the idea.

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('careinke', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'I')f you can ensure that your government stops subsidising your habit with resource wars, then hey, be my guest.

[timmac]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('americandream', 'I')f the pro-weed lobby acted with the outrage you do everytime someone took away your rollup, with regards to the actions of predatory govenments, the problem would at least be on the radar. Instead, you run about the place, stoned out of your skulls barely comprehending what day of the week it is, let alone who is ripping off whom.

As for communism, it will happen, it will be decisive and disciplined and you had better get used to the idea.

[americandream]

I would address that to "Time", the same agent that gave rise to capitalism in the face of feudalism. I am sure many a Royalist expressed the very same sentiment in the days when Royal Perogative was divinely decreed and look where that went.

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('timmac', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('americandream', 'I')f the pro-weed lobby acted with the outrage you do everytime someone took away your rollup, with regards to the actions of predatory govenments, the problem would at least be on the radar. Instead, you run about the place, stoned out of your skulls barely comprehending what day of the week it is, let alone who is ripping off whom.

As for communism, it will happen, it will be decisive and disciplined and you had better get used to the idea.

[Carlhole]

Cannabinoids Kill Cancer and Our Government Has Known for 36 Years

From a 2003 article:
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'A') new study published in Nature Reviews-Cancer provides an historic and detailed explanation about how THC and natural cannabinoids counteract cancer, but preserve normal cells.

The study by Manuel Guzmán of Madrid Spain found that cannabinoids, the active components of marijuana, inhibit tumor growth in laboratory animals. They do so by modulating key cell-signalling pathways, thereby inducing direct growth arrest and death of tumor cells, as well as by inhibiting the growth of blood vessels that supply the tumor.

The Guzman study is very important according to Dr. Ethan Russo , a neurologist and world authority on medical cannabis: “Cancer occurs because cells become immortalized; they fail to heed normal signals to turn off growth. A normal function of remodelling in the body requires that cells die on cue. This is called apoptosis, or programmed cell death. That process fails to work in tumors. THC promotes its reappearance so that gliomas, leukemias, melanomas and other cell types will in fact heed the signals, stop dividing, and die.”...