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Re: PO == the end of sex

Unread postby turner » Fri 17 Oct 2008, 14:32:27

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('deMolay', 'Y')ou sound bitter Turner?


No, not really, but I do think our position in society has been hard won and I get a bit peed off with the blanket male throw away statement. I actually feel very sad that there are still men in our society that think so badly about women and their worth to society. What is most distressing is I thought the guys on this forum actually had some brains about them but clearly I should get back in my box and assume the big 'v' position.
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Re: PO == the end of sex

Unread postby vaseline2008 » Fri 17 Oct 2008, 17:40:05

End of Sex: When you can't feel an orgasm and or numb to the pleasure. Numbing or eliminating the pleasure of ________ will make the subject less likely to do _______.

Come on, how many girls want to continue to have sex with you if you can't "get them off"?

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Guys, better watch out...when the girls figure out that they are really the ones holding all the cards, gender roles may be the exact opposite from what they are now. From what I understand, it's pretty hard for a male to give birth to a child...do our breasts produce milk?
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Re: PO == the end of sex

Unread postby JPL » Sat 18 Oct 2008, 15:48:52

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('ReverseEngineer', '
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The Dark Ages encouraged the Monastic life, men and women heading for Monasteries as both Nuns and Monks. Why? Because likely all these folks knew they could not support any children they might bring into the world.


That's not entirely correct - during this period the peoples of Northern Europe (AKA Danes or the debased term 'Vikings') built a vibrant culture & trading empire that expanded in size to (arguably) a larger area than Rome. It reached far into modern-day Russia & also as far west as Greenland and (possibly) North America.

On the lower fringes of the Danish expansion the Christainised post-Roman cultures collapsed around the monastries etc.

Unfortunately the Christians were very good (written) record-keepers but the (Pagan) 'North-men' were not, are rather they were, but it was an oral tradition and hence easily lost after post-Roman culture expanded again from its base in South/Central Europe during the middle ages.

Hence the expression 'Dark Ages' which has to be taken with a pinch of salt, once you realise who got to write the history books.

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('ReverseEngineer', 'S')uch Christians are of course perversions of the actual teaching of Jesus Christ, and they will Burn in Everlasting Damnation in the Fires of Hell.

Not being a Christian myself, its pretty easy to pick out Christians who are actually cognizant of the teaching of Jesus Christ,


Are you sure (grin)? You do use CaPitAls a lot (always a sure sign, in my book...)

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Re: PO == the end of sex

Unread postby VMarcHart » Sat 18 Oct 2008, 15:58:15

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('cube', 'F')or example "sex before marriage" was strictly forbidden in many earlier societies.
Those were the "late" societies. In the true early societies, there was no such a thing as marriage. How old is marriage? 5,000-6,000 years old?
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Re: PO == the end of sex

Unread postby ReverseEngineer » Sat 18 Oct 2008, 16:09:44

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('JPL', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('ReverseEngineer', '
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The Dark Ages encouraged the Monastic life, men and women heading for Monasteries as both Nuns and Monks. Why? Because likely all these folks knew they could not support any children they might bring into the world.


That's not entirely correct - during this period the peoples of Northern Europe (AKA Danes or the debased term 'Vikings') built a vibrant culture & trading empire that expanded in size to (arguably) a larger area than Rome. It reached far into modern-day Russia & also as far west as Greenland and (possibly) North America.

On the lower fringes of the Danish expansion the Christainised post-Roman cultures collapsed around the monastries etc.

Unfortunately the Christians were very good (written) record-keepers but the (Pagan) 'North-men' were not, are rather they were, but it was an oral tradition and hence easily lost after post-Roman culture expanded again from its base in South/Central Europe during the middle ages.

Hence the expression 'Dark Ages' which has to be taken with a pinch of salt, once you realise who got to write the history books.

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('ReverseEngineer', 'S')uch Christians are of course perversions of the actual teaching of Jesus Christ, and they will Burn in Everlasting Damnation in the Fires of Hell.

Not being a Christian myself, its pretty easy to pick out Christians who are actually cognizant of the teaching of Jesus Christ,


Are you sure (grin)? You do use CaPitAls a lot (always a sure sign, in my book...)

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The Vikings did indeed have a competing civilization going on, but in the end they did of course lose and were subsumed into the Judeo-Christian model.

As to "being sure" and my use of CAPS, I use the CAPS to emphasize that indeed I AM sure :-) Its easier than bolding the appropriate words or phrases.

Anything I am NOT sure of, I don't CAPITALIZE. I use a lot of CAPS because I am SURE of many things :-) If you wish to disabuse me of the notion, feel free, be my guest. Its what I LIVE for. LOL

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Re: PO == the end of sex

Unread postby PenultimateManStanding » Sat 18 Oct 2008, 16:31:12

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Madpaddy', 'S')PG wrote,

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'H')umans have been having responsible sex, irresponsible sex, upside down, inside out, and every other kind of sex, since way before history.


Keep going. I love it when you talk dirty...
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Re: PO == the end of sex

Unread postby JPL » Sat 18 Oct 2008, 17:40:54

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('ReverseEngineer', '
')The Vikings did indeed have a competing civilization going on, but in the end they did of course lose and were subsumed into the Judeo-Christian model.


Maybe yes, maybe no. Some of the old culture lives on - often in surprising places. Read Tolkien, for-example. The ghosts of the past can often surprise us all...

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$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('ReverseEngineer', '
')As to "being sure" and my use of CAPS, I use the CAPS to emphasize that indeed I AM sure :-) Its easier than bolding the appropriate words or phrases.

Anything I am NOT sure of, I don't CAPITALIZE. I use a lot of CAPS because I am SURE of many things :-) If you wish to disabuse me of the notion, feel free, be my guest. Its what I LIVE for. LOL

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It was the line Burn in Everlasting Damnation in the Fires of Hell. that I was thinking about. Surely no-one would say Everlasting Damnation with such emphatic capitals unless they really meant it!!! (grin).

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Re: PO == the end of sex

Unread postby skeptik » Sat 18 Oct 2008, 18:11:12

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('cube', '
')For example "sex before marriage" was strictly forbidden in many earlier societies.

So what? Hormones trump mores every time. Always have always will.

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Re: PO == the end of sex

Unread postby Quinny » Sat 18 Oct 2008, 18:23:00

Anyone who says that has obviously not been doing it right!! :)

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('smallpoxgirl', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('charliebrownout', 'I') don't think Christianity has been trying to stamp out sex--maybe some sects have, but not as a whole.

Chastity doctrines were pretty heavy in the Paulian epistles. It's not just the Shakers. That's why Catholic priests, for example, aren't supposed to marry. Obviously most people won't do the whole chastity thing and if they did they'd go the way of the Shakers. The Catholic church therefore makes an exception if you're having sex only to procreate and you try not to enjoy it very much. There were Protestant sects that use to use a sheet with a little hole in it to have sex, so that the people wouldn't be tempted to lust after each other.

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'A')s for premarital sex: All I have to say is, if you've got the possibility of bringing a child into the world involved in any particular act, having a binding contract beforehand doesn't sound like a BAD idea.


If people were rational about sex, most would probably never do it at all. That's a biologically unacceptable alternative, so mother nature went to a lot of trouble to make sure we weren't too logical about the whole thing.
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Re: PO == the end of sex

Unread postby RonMN » Sat 18 Oct 2008, 20:56:24

SPG Wrote:
No one wants to picture their grandparents having sex.

EEEEK! I don't even want to picture my parents having sex...but...I know I wouldn't be here otherwise.

That's just wrong :lol:
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Re: PO == the end of sex

Unread postby PenultimateManStanding » Sat 18 Oct 2008, 21:11:57

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('RonMN', '
')EEEEK! I don't even want to picture my parents having sex...but...I know I wouldn't be here otherwise.
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Re: PO == the end of sex

Unread postby Dawn » Sat 18 Oct 2008, 21:56:37

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('charliebrownout', 'P')riests did marry in the earlier versions of the Catholic church. Also, views on human sexuality within Christianity are diverse.


Actually, Chaldean Catholic priests are still allowed to marry... My sister-in-laws dad is a priest and he has 11 kids. That's the only Catholic church that doesn't follow that rule to my knowledge.
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Re: PO == the end of sex

Unread postby kam3Oen » Sun 19 Oct 2008, 05:41:15

I imagine a near future where disadvantaged women are selling themselves on the side of the road for a sandwich. A world where a guy with a rifle, some land, and a stockpile of food gets the girl and keeps the girl. Bottom line, they won't be giving it away for free, like they do today. The basic male-female relationship throughout history has been one of prostitution, sex for security.
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Re: PO == the end of sex

Unread postby turner » Sun 19 Oct 2008, 11:18:40

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('kam3Oen', 'I') imagine a near future where disadvantaged women are selling themselves on the side of the road for a sandwich. A world where a guy with a rifle, some land, and a stockpile of food gets the girl and keeps the girl. Bottom line, they won't be giving it away for free, like they do today. The basic male-female relationship throughout history has been one of prostitution, sex for security.


Agreed at the margins in a poorer world ahead but I do think women in Western society have shown that they are capable of so much more than they ever thought possible even a few decades ago. The idea of a woman buying some land, stockpiling some food and getting a gun doesn't seem at all out of the question to me. Women who have achieved independence will not allow that to be taken away without a fight.
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Re: PO == the end of sex

Unread postby smallpoxgirl » Sun 19 Oct 2008, 12:28:28

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('turner', 'W')omen who have achieved independence will not allow that to be taken away without a fight.


Darned straight. The world better not fall apart before my new rifle gets here. That's all I've got to say.
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Re: PO == the end of sex

Unread postby Loki » Sun 19 Oct 2008, 16:52:20

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('kam3Oen', 'I') imagine a near future where disadvantaged women are selling themselves on the side of the road for a sandwich. A world where a guy with a rifle, some land, and a stockpile of food gets the girl and keeps the girl. Bottom line, they won't be giving it away for free, like they do today. The basic male-female relationship throughout history has been one of prostitution, sex for security.

OK, I'm not seeing how this is different from current conditions. Took a trip to 82nd Avenue the other day to look at trucks, and saw several hookers plying their trade by the side of the road. Probably charge more than a sandwich, I imagine, but didn't get a chance to ask. Honestly, they were ugly as sin. They'd have to pay me.

Regardless of how "liberated" they are, most western women will continue to attach themselves to men with means. That's how it is today, that's how it was yesterday, and that's how it'll be tomorrow. And that's probably why I don't have a wife :wink:
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Re: PO == the end of sex

Unread postby Loki » Sun 19 Oct 2008, 17:19:59

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('smallpoxgirl', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('turner', 'W')omen who have achieved independence will not allow that to be taken away without a fight.


Darned straight. The world better not fall apart before my new rifle gets here. That's all I've got to say.

Does it also work in reverse, i.e., "a world where a girl with a rifle, some land, and a stockpile of food gets the guy and keeps the guy"? I'm not too proud to be kept :)

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Re: PO == the end of sex

Unread postby turner » Mon 20 Oct 2008, 07:15:15

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Loki', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('smallpoxgirl', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('turner', 'W')omen who have achieved independence will not allow that to be taken away without a fight.


Darned straight. The world better not fall apart before my new rifle gets here. That's all I've got to say.

Does it also work in reverse, i.e., "a world where a girl with a rifle, some land, and a stockpile of food gets the guy and keeps the guy"? I'm not too proud to be kept :)


Yeah of course, so long as he has long blonde hair and big....LOL
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Re: PO == the end of sex

Unread postby kpeavey » Mon 20 Oct 2008, 07:24:26

I was hoping to have sex before I die.

Now I can't afford it. :(
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Re: PO == the end of sex

Unread postby smallpoxgirl » Mon 20 Oct 2008, 07:41:11

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('turner', 'Y')eah of course, so long as he has long blonde hair and big....LOL


Ick! Fabio is gross.

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