[MichaelRyan23]

Can anyone tell me why these articles, suggesting peak oil is a myth, are not correct?

http://www.prisonplanet.com/archives/peak_oil/index.htm
http://www.manhattan-institute.org/html/_wsj-oil_oil.htm

[turmoil]

yes, peak oil is a myth, go back to sleep. it was all just a bad dream.

/sarcasm off.

[truecougarblue]

There are quiet a few errors.

First, notice that the conspiracy to raise prices involves refining, not production. The PO response to this is that the oil companies don't want to invest billions in new refineries that will sit unused because there isn't crude to run through them.

Abiotic oil isn't a proven fact, and guess what, even if it does happen here and there around the world the percentage is way to small to have an effect. Consumption is simply growing to rapidly.

As for the claim that countries are continuously increasing their reserves, fine, new fields are being found. Does it keep up with demand? Are there enough found year over year to replace the failing ones?

It was also stated that every time we hit a crisis, OPEC increases production. What happened during the Katrina crisis? OPEC was asked and they responded, "we can't" That is why US and European reserves were dipped into, and continue to be used.

Nuf said?

[MichaelRyan23]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'y')es, peak oil is a myth, go back to sleep. it was all just a bad dream.

[aahala]

Ask a group of school boys the following question:

If a resource is finite, can we continue to consume it forever?

Unless the class is filled with the mentally challenged, a very large
percentage will answer of course not. This is the dumbest question
we have been asked this school year.

[Ancien_Opus]

The only people that believe in infinite growth on finite planet are mad men and economist.

Don't trust anyone that asks you to place faith in science, technology or the market place. They're asking you to believe, not offering you the facts. You must distinguish the difference between a prayer and a plan. Denial prevents you from doing what needs to be done, while leaving you with only false hopes.

The facts speak for themselves.

[bob_loblaw]

no one will be able to give you 100% credible evidence for either side.. just opinions..

my opinion on Abiotic oil? if it were real, we should see 'topping up' of wells which have been in historic decline, or capped off. I do not believe there is even a shred of evidence to support that...

my current belief investment in PO? about 97% sure its real, just no idea when the masses will get it.

[sch_peakoiler]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('MichaelRyan23', 'C')an anyone tell me why these articles, suggesting peak oil is a myth, are not correct?

http://www.prisonplanet.com/archives/peak_oil/index.htm
http://www.manhattan-institute.org/html/_wsj-oil_oil.htm

[Zardoz]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Peter Huber and Mark Mills', '.')..The earth is far bigger than people think, the untapped deposits are huge...

[miniTAX]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('sch_peakoiler', 'H')ey man, till 2004 every single oil company was hunting peakoilers and screaming like wild "scam!, witch!, Inquisition on them!, pagans!

[MichaelRyan23]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'A')sk a group of school boys the following question:

If a resource is finite, can we continue to consume it forever?

[miniTAX]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('pstarr', '
')just look at the names! prisonplanet is obviously a marxist/terrorist propaganda site and the manhattan institute is some kind of dweeby right-wing christian thinktank (wait a minute. that is like jumbo shrimp or military intelligence? that hurts my brain ).

I hope that answered your question

[MichaelRyan23]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'p')risonplanet is obviously a marxist/terrorist propaganda site

[Seadragon]

I believe the original poster has some reading to do...without some background on how oil is formed and the special geological conditions it takes, he would not have been poleaxed by those silly articles. Maintaining that oil is an infinite resource has been thoroughly debunked and is considered a fringe belief without any proof. Read Simmons, Deffeyes, Heinberg,the Hirsch Report,and the ASPO Netherlands report and get back to us.

[cat]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'Q')uote:
Ask a group of school boys the following question:

If a resource is finite, can we continue to consume it forever?



I you read the article you would have seen that it was questioning the notion that oil is finite.

[MichaelRyan23]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'M')aintaining that oil is an infinite resource has been thoroughly debunked and is considered a fringe belief without any proof.

[Seadragon]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('MichaelRyan23', '
')
Yeah, says you. But I will find you many other people(including scientists) who say otherwise. And ultimately the thing is... you don't actually know, do you? You have no first hand knowlege of it, so you are just going by what others tell you.

[KrellEnergySource]

The North Sea is depleting. Fields in Alaska are depleting.

If there was enough abiotic oil available to meet our needs, why would we be even drilling in those god-forsaken locations for the past 20 years? We'd just be running a whole lot of pipelines from the fields that keep replenishing abiotically. Instead, almost every new discovery of any size is in a place even harder to get to and/or more expensive to produce from than the last. Or so it seems to me.

[JoeW]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('MichaelRyan23', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'A')sk a group of school boys the following question:

If a resource is finite, can we continue to consume it forever?