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Postby Riddick » Wed 20 Oct 2004, 13:01:36

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Falconoffury', ' ')I think Tool is the best small musical group of all time. I know it's a big claim, but I just can't put into words how well composed their music is.



I agree. The themes they discuss in their music are also very in depth. From Carl Jung's theories (46 & 2 and Aenima) to mathematical formulas like the Fibonacci sequence (Lateralus - the opening beat in this song actually coincides with the formula). Very deep and intellectual stuff.

They are fantastic in concert. I've never heard a better band live.

Matrim, Go see them if you get a chance. If you liked A Perfect Circle, you'll love TOOL.

Due to the current happenings, I can't wait to see what their next album is going to sound like and what themes they will discuss.
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Postby dmtu » Wed 20 Oct 2004, 13:58:29

I hate to inform you duff but in America Brittany is music for teen girls, I know European tastes are a bit different.

For me Blues influenced rock. For the most part if it doesn't have strings I don't want to hear it. GnFR and anything relating to Slash, Molly Hatchet, Alice In Chains, God Smack, Velvet Revolver, etc. I see alot of tool here, very accomplished in technique no doubt but, I have never been able to listen to them consistently.
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Now you’re a million miles apart
As we bleed another nation
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Postby Matrim » Wed 20 Oct 2004, 14:34:14

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', ' ')GnFR and anything relating to Slash


YEAH G N F'IN R!!!
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Postby Laurasia » Sat 23 Oct 2004, 00:16:31

My tastes are pretty eclectic and I'm NOT knowledgeable - just know what I like when I hear it:

Beethoven
Brahms
Debussy

Clannad & other Celtic-type music (love it)

Tangerine Dream

Boney James

The Gypsy Kings (WOW)

Newly-discovered by me - Acoustic Alchemy

Lots more, but I can't think of it.

Regards,

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Postby pip » Mon 25 Oct 2004, 10:51:25

Robert Earl Keen
Cory Morrow
Cross Canadian Ragweed
Pat Green
Willie Nelson
Johnny Cash
Dub Miller
Cooder Graw
Billy Joe Shaver
Jack Ingram
Gary P. Nunn
The Great Divide

Texas Country, not the pop country crap on the radio.
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Postby mgibbons19 » Mon 25 Oct 2004, 11:06:43

I know some folks who have been involved with this project.

http://novemsongs.com/

There are some free downloads there. I'ld like to know if you like it.
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Postby Jenab » Tue 26 Oct 2004, 12:38:27

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('mgibbons19', 'I') know some folks who have been involved with this project.

http://novemsongs.com/

There are some free downloads there. I'ld like to know if you like it.

This band had talent. But if I were thinking of buying the song rights and using them in a film, I'd consider rescoring and producing them for a fuller sound, extending the lyrics a bit, and adding harmony and counterpoint.

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Postby Ayoob » Tue 26 Oct 2004, 13:03:57

Music's like any other art form. There's a skim of cream on the top of every style out there, and 98% of it is copies of that. There's good stuff out there from every kind of music.

Everything from metal to reggae to classical to swing jazz to blues to techno... it's all good. Lately I've been going from old metal to swing and crooners. The old stuff is so good, you know? It's like listening to a story about somebody's life. There was really something to it.

Slayer, Tommy Dorsey, Fatboy Slim, Mahler, Tool, Alice in Chains, Robert Johnson, 808 State, PJ Harvey, Melvins, Zeppelin, Beastie Boys, Bob Marley, Biz Markie, some international stuff from NPR, Van Halen, Level 42, Tori Amos, Abba, Art of Noise....

There's so much good stuff out there. Skim the cream off the top of every kind of music!
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Postby Jenab » Tue 26 Oct 2004, 17:15:13

I say, NOVEM is pretty good - compared with what I could do.

But they'd need a lot of musical maturing in order to compete with the Beatles, or Enya.

Imagine that you just came from a NOVEM recording session (yeh I know they're dead, but just pretend), and you happen to pass by a gym where it appears another band is getting set up to practice. Just as you pass by the gym door, the band starts in with a piece they're trying to get the kinks worked out of...

"SO WHEN YOU'RE NEAR ME DARLING CAN'T YOU HEAR ME - SOS.
THE LOVE YOU GAVE ME, NOTHING ELSE WILL SAVE ME - SOS."

This is not merely a good band, is it?

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Postby Jenab » Wed 27 Oct 2004, 06:34:23

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Jakob', 'I') prefer White Power music.

I used to help sell WP music, and I never could stand the stuff. Mostly. A few songs were OK, but in my opinion a band that over-uses instrumental noises does so because they either can't sing or can't write songs, and they need to fill up the performance with some kind of sound. I'm not saying that really good quality WP music is impossible - of course it is. I'm only saying that I have worked for a music publisher and have not managed to hear much that's worth listening to.

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Postby Flailing_Junk » Fri 12 Nov 2004, 03:38:19

Anyone know of a flute that is relatively easy to make and is particulary suited to playing at a campfire?

Something along the lines of this:

http://www.flutemaking.com/

Without having to pay $40. :)
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Postby Terran » Sun 14 Nov 2004, 23:10:35

For me I'm downloading a ton of songs of my favorate bands online. My plan is to burn them into CD, and use a CD player, with recharagable batteries charge by solar energy. And plus earphones for energy conservation.

I'm also saving a ton of songs in my laptop, hopefully later on I can power my laptop using solar panals. I'm still able to play rock, alternative, punk, and heavy metal after post peak. Rock and Roll will still thrive after peak, but I hope I don't hear Rap music.
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Postby TrueKaiser » Mon 15 Nov 2004, 01:00:24

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Terran', 'F')or me I'm downloading a ton of songs of my favorate bands online. My plan is to burn them into CD, and use a CD player, with recharagable batteries charge by solar energy. And plus earphones for energy conservation.

I'm also saving a ton of songs in my laptop, hopefully later on I can power my laptop using solar panals. I'm still able to play rock, alternative, punk, and heavy metal after post peak. Rock and Roll will still thrive after peak, but I hope I don't hear Rap music.


put them on casette tapes, they will last longer. burnable cd's last at most a couple of years due to the organic dye they put inbetween the two layers of plastic.
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What happened to country music?

Postby PenultimateManStanding » Sun 27 Feb 2005, 01:15:41

Had to spend all day today listening to contemporary American "country music." Arturo the cook usually puts on heavy metal but today it was this treacly stuff. I spent the whole day razin' him about it. American country music used to be for men, now its for soccer moms. Its all cleaned up and purty. I told him about the old rough-edged stuff by Merle Hggard, George Jones, Waylon Jennings. Lyrics like:

puttin' you down won't square the deal
least you'll know the way I feel
Baby take all the money in the bank
I think I'll just stay here and drink.

Or then:

Like a junkie hooked on dope
I'm hooked on your thrill
You got me goin' down hill
I cant eat I cant sleep
I think about you from daylight 'till dawn
I bet I wont weigh 15 pounds
When they drag my body home

or then:

Take this job and shove it
I aint workin here no more
My woman done left and took all the reason
I was workin for

I blamed this conversion of country music from manly to effeminate on Randy Travis, and jokingly told Arturo that Randy Travis should be taken out and shot after castration for what he did to American country music! Now I swear to god I heard a song today about 'Mr. Mom' No freakin way there was ANYTHING LIKE THAT SHIT 30 YEARS AGO - NO WAY! Now Arturo was laughing his head off and egging me on, but what he didn't tell me until late in the day was that Jennifer the owner who was working in front asked him to play country music because she likes it. Oops! She went home a little while later and I called out to her, "Love yer music!"
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Postby PenultimateManStanding » Sun 27 Feb 2005, 01:42:55

And another thing that bugs me about this new 'country music', why do they all sound like they went to this same country music singing school in Oklahoma? I swear to god every last one of them sounds just like the others. In the old days, they all had some unique special individual sound. In the words of Merle Haggard:

Are we rollin downhill like a snowball headed for hell
With no kind of chance for the flag or the Liberty Bell?

Another cool lyric from country music yester-year style:

I told him I was a poet and my soul was on fire
He looked at me and said you are a liar
Son its younger women, older whiskey,
faster horses, and more money

And this one shows the machismo thing:

(the old gas station guy is commenting on the hot girl in the vet that pulled in for gas, beer, and cigarettes, but the guy thinks he talking about the car)

Son it aint the car I love,
its the brunette in your bed that turns me on
had one that was hotter than a two dollar pistol
she was the fastest thing around
long and lean
every young man's dream
she turned every head in town
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Postby PenultimateManStanding » Sun 27 Feb 2005, 02:02:23

And also, lest you think I'm mysogynist, even the women singers of old were special and unique: Tanya Tucker, Loretta Lynn, Patsy Kline. This world has lost its soul. They're all cooky-cutter non-entities anymore.
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Postby PenultimateManStanding » Sun 27 Feb 2005, 02:18:18

And then there's this immortal lyric. He starts out by saying "it was back in '63 when eatin my cookies got the best of me and I asked some sweet young thing to be my wife. Well it wasn't too long 'fore the lust all died, etc. and then this:

Well it all sounds mighty funny
But it hurts too much to laugh
She got the gold mine
I got the shaft
They split it all down the middle
then they gave her the better half
She got the gold mine
I got the shaft

Yeah, country music used to be something special.
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Postby Tyler_JC » Sun 27 Feb 2005, 11:05:48

Do you want to know what happened? The untalented Dixie Chicks and the sell-out Shania Twain happened. They brought sugary pop music into the mix and did substantial damage to the entire country music genre. :-x

What happened to pop music? The commercialized *N-sync and Britney Spears happened. They ruined an entire genre, turning it into one big black hole of entertainment. :-x

(I could do one of these for each genre)
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Postby CarlinsDarlin » Sun 27 Feb 2005, 12:11:08

PMS,
My take on what is happening is the same thing that happened back in the 50's when country had to compete with the newly emerging pop/rock genre. "The Nashville Sound" (Eddie Arnold et al) appeared on the scene at that time and turned country into a sort of pop-country-hybrid. It was purely economics at that point. There were still purists and outlaws who bucked the system (Merle, Johnny Cash, Willie Nelson - in his later years, and such), but what sold records was what Nashville was producing, and promoting.

We see a similar situation today. The "diva" image for women, and the whatever-you-call-it-sexy image for men is what sells. There are still purists out there - think Gillian Welch - who have incredible talent and a large following - but they'll never be played on country radio today. Because what they're producing is music - not an image. The image today, like in the 50's Nashville Sound Era, is what sells.

I support those musicians and artists like Gillian Welch - and try to buy their music, because their artistry is what will keep the music true to its roots and pure. We're in a cycle, and it'll all come back in the end. Just have patience :).
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