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Re: Income Distribution and PeakOil.com

Unread postby Tyler_JC » Tue 25 Oct 2005, 21:18:12

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'A')s of the census2 of 2000, there are 9,765 people, 3,250 households, and 2,710 families residing in the town. The population density is 180.7/km² (467.8/mi²). There are 3,318 housing units at an average density of 61.4/km² (158.9/mi²). The racial makeup of the town is 97.58% White, 0.37% African American, 0.05% Native American, 1.16% Asian, 0.00% Pacific Islander, 0.16% from other races, and 0.68% from two or more races. 0.63% of the population are Hispanic or Latino of any race.

There are 3,250 households out of which 42.2% have children under the age of 18 living with them, 74.6% are married couples living together, 6.5% have a female householder with no husband present, and 16.6% are non-families. 14.2% of all households are made up of individuals and 6.9% have someone living alone who is 65 years of age or older. The average household size is 2.94 and the average family size is 3.27.

In the town the population is spread out with 28.6% under the age of 18, 4.3% from 18 to 24, 25.6% from 25 to 44, 28.9% from 45 to 64, and 12.6% who are 65 years of age or older. The median age is 40 years. For every 100 females there are 95.5 males. For every 100 females age 18 and over, there are 90.6 males.

The median income for a household in the town is $87,397, and the median income for a family is $96,771. Males have a median income of $66,406 versus $40,625 for females. The per capita income for the town is $37,222. 1.9% of the population and 1.4% of families are below the poverty line. Out of the total population, 1.9% of those under the age of 18 and 2.2% of those 65 and older are living below the poverty line.


My town has a higher % of elderly people, pushing down the per capita income compared to Deephaven. Also, we built a big low-income housing project a few years back. Interestingly...the population density of Norwell is 1/4 the population density of Deephaven...probably because of the proximity to a major city of Deephaven. Not that it really matters, the two communities are still very similar.

To go back to the point about seperation between classes. I definitely think it happens. There are communities of mostly rich people and communities of mostly poor people...and never the two shall meet. That being said, my sister's boyfriend lives in one of the largest houses in town. He's on the cul de sac of a street called "Judge's Hill". His dad owns EastWest Mortgages or something like that. They would fit into the "Capitalist" social class. On the other hand, my best friend growing up was on welfare. So what does that tell you?

Well, nothing other than that my sister is a little gold digger. :P

If the rich people in my town were white and the poorer people were non-white...there would probably be more of a social division. Racial homogeny can make up for socio-economic homogeny.
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Re: Income Distribution and PeakOil.com

Unread postby lotrfan55345 » Tue 25 Oct 2005, 21:59:14

Wow, Tyler, thats amazing. They are alike in almost every aspect. Awesome (or not). :)

There (seem) to be a bunch of old people in Deephaven too, as it was once a "resort town" by Lake Minnetonka for old people.

In every single on of my classes at school, I am baisically the only non-white person there.
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Re: Income Distribution and PeakOil.com

Unread postby Tyler_JC » Tue 25 Oct 2005, 23:39:35

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('lotrfan55345', 'W')ow, Tyler, thats amazing. They are alike in almost every aspect. Awesome (or not). :)

There (seem) to be a bunch of old people in Deephaven too, as it was once a "resort town" by Lake Minnetonka for old people.

In every single on of my classes at school, I am baisically the only non-white person there.


I actually like where I live. It rains too much, but I don't walk around in the rain very much so it doesn't really effect me too badly.

Unfortunately, the town is hopelessly car-dependent. My town is right next to a major highway and the vast majority of the workforce has to commute to work. Ironically, most of the people employed inside the town can't afford to live here so they commute from the very same places that our town's workers commute to!
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If that makes any sense.
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I would assume that housing this far from a major city (Boston, 20 miles) would decrease in value post peak. But even if gas was $10 a gallon, everyone would still drive to work, alone, in their SUV.

Hopeless suburbanites...argh.
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Re: Income Distribution and PeakOil.com

Unread postby BabyPeanut » Wed 26 Oct 2005, 14:45:39

Income distributions and replying to online polls:

Under $1,000,000,000 annually - 100%
$1,000,000,000 annually or more - 0%
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Re: Income Distribution and PeakOil.com

Unread postby lotrfan55345 » Wed 26 Oct 2005, 15:56:51

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Tyler_JC', '
')I would assume that housing this far from a major city (Boston, 20 miles) would decrease in value post peak. But even if gas was $10 a gallon, everyone would still drive to work, alone, in their SUV.

Hopeless suburbanites...argh.


Deephaven is like 28 miles away from Minneapolis, haha. Most people in Deephaven work in either downtown Minnepaolis or one of the suburbs around the twin cities. (well obviously I guess)
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Re: Income Distribution and PeakOil.com

Unread postby Keith_McClary » Thu 27 Oct 2005, 03:19:42

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('fossilnut2', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('lotrfan55345', 'H')OW does a household survive on $45k a month?

I think our household eats up like $50k just in monthly bills... (like utilities, mortgage, etc)

We work about 6 months (average)out of the year and have combined incomes around 180 thousand Cdn. Let's call it 150 thousand American. We have no mortgages or debts and get by on about 19 thousand USA a year. That pays for food, utillites, property taxes, etc. About once a decade we buy a vehicle with no bells and whistles.

Let me out-cheap you. We kept our '85 Camry (with no bells and whistles except for the standard equipment power rear-view mirrors) for 18 years. We bought it because we were expecting a baby and needed a larger vehicle than our '78 Civic. He drove it for 3 years.
We paid CDN$45,000 for our house 10 years ago. Our income is almost as high as yours, but we're retired so our expenses are lower.
From what you say, you don't have kids so you don't budget for music le$$ons and in$trument$ and $ki-racing clubs with new $ki$ every year or two.
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('fossilnut2', '
').people actually buy those plastic bins to store their 'stuff' and then need even bigger plastic bins to store those bins. Insane.
And then they need the McMansion to store the bigger bins.
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Re: Income Distribution and PeakOil.com

Unread postby Keith_McClary » Thu 27 Oct 2005, 03:46:45

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('lotrfan55345', 'T')his is the "area" I live in... what an embarrassment:

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', '
')Deephaven, MN

The racial makeup of the city is <b>97.35% White</b>, 0.29% African American, 0.34% Native American, 0.70% Asian, 0.05% Pacific Islander, 0.29% from other races, and 0.99% from two or more races. 0.91% of the population are Hispanic or Latino of any race.

There are 1,373 households out of which 42.4% have children under the age of 18 living with them, 71.7% are married couples living together, 5.9% have a female householder with no husband present, and 20.0% are non-families. 16.6% of all households are made up of individuals and 6.3% have someone living alone who is 65 years of age or older. The average household size is 2.79 and the average family size is 3.16.

In the city the population is spread out with 30.5% under the age of 18, 3.7% from 18 to 24, 25.2% from 25 to 44, 29.8% from 45 to 64, and 10.8% who are 65 years of age or older. The median age is 40 years. For every 100 females there are 97.6 males. For every 100 females age 18 and over, there are 94.4 males.

The median income for a household in the city is $101,278, and the median income for a family is $107,422. Males have a median income of $71,181 versus $42,297 for females. The per capita income for the city is $58,544. 2.6% of the population and 1.0% of families are below the poverty line. Out of the total population, 2.8% of those under the age of 18 and 3.8% of those 65 and older are living below the poverty line.


bleh

I wished there was more non-white people... to make things interesting.

Like 70% of Beverly Hill's population are Iranian.
Sounds like you don't even have any white hill-billies or trailer trash to liven things up.
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