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by **Olaf** » Sat 07 May 2005, 01:38:40

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Raphael', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'I')t occurred to me that I don't want to share this info too much! Smile

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by **pongle** » Sat 07 May 2005, 02:23:43

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('some_guy282', 'I') think this whole discussion of drugs/alcohol in regards to Peak Oil is actually very interesting. Oil and drugs/alcohol have one thing in common with some people: inelastic demand. Addicts absolutely must have it no matter what the price. When supply chains of goods across the country (including illegal ones) starts to break down, the price of illegal drugs and even cigarettes could possibly soar even faster than oil does.

How will the average person be able to afford their cigarettes/beer/weed when they can barely afford to buy food? You can add withdrawl pain/anxiety to the large list of things that will create problems and make people very angry when things start to get bad.

How bad smoking weed is now is debatable. But I think in light of Peak Oil everyone should be in agreement that it's a pretty stupid habit to continue. Don't get me wrong, I'm milking as much fun from our society right now as I possibly can. Videogames are my personal vice. But I can walk away from the Xbox just fine without being left with any physical symptoms.

If you smoke weed now, do you think you'll still be able to afford to when things start to get bad? Even if you could, do you think it would be a wise thing to spend your money on? I know withdrawl symptoms from weed aren't as dramatic as those of other harder drugs, but when would you rather go through withdrawl? Now, or when TSHTF?

by **Ayoob_Reloaded** » Sat 07 May 2005, 02:58:45

Pot is not as bad as either alcohol or cigarettes, methinks.

by **Schneider** » Sat 07 May 2005, 08:41:29

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Raphael', 'Y')ou've got to wonder about the priorities of society when there has been a 100% increase in children under the age of five being administered ritalin, but an adult can't smoke pot.

by **Kingcoal** » Sat 07 May 2005, 10:52:43

I've noticed that marijuana makes people dumb and believing in conspiracy theories. I think you're better off without it. Of course it's probably not much worse than alcohol.

by **Chuckmak** » Sat 07 May 2005, 19:14:11

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Schneider', '
')Hmm,i know some people who will make some money then :-D

.. As about paying for pot,wise smokers don't buy their little vice; they grow it

by **TWilliam** » Sat 07 May 2005, 20:12:09

Nevermind. I was going to endeavor to offer a bit of enlightenment regarding the innocuousness (and the incomparable usefulness!!)of the Sacred Herb, but, hey, it's already been done quite well methinks. Suffice to say that the real issue anyway is responsibility: any "object" can become a focus of irresponsible/addictive behavior. And as far as that goes, marijuana is one of the most benign of such objects...

by **Ludi** » Sat 07 May 2005, 20:33:31

I'm hoping in post-peak world people will feel comfortable with growing and using all manner of useful herbs in a safe and "responsible" way. I hope seeds of useful and relaxing plants will be widely distributed.

by **eric_b** » Sat 07 May 2005, 20:46:39

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How will the average person be able to afford their cigarettes/beer/weed when they can barely afford to buy food? You can add withdrawl pain/anxiety to the large list of things that will create problems and make people very angry when things start to get bad.

by **chargrove** » Sun 08 May 2005, 01:19:17

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'G')ee, and here I was thinking that drugs completely altered your thought process and made you do things you normally wouldn't do if you weren't under their influence.

by **some_guy282** » Sun 08 May 2005, 04:10:42

I think some of you are taking exceptions to the rule and broadly applying them to nearly everyone.

Can you grow weed now and have enough for yourself without spending any money on it? Sure. Will some people still be able to do this after the peak, even if TSHTF? Absolutely. Does this mean that's what the majority of people do now? NO. Granted, I don't have any hard #'s from studies or anything, but I bet that the vast majority of people who smoke weed (90% +) have to buy it from someone else. When transportation is disrupted, weed is going to suffer the same problem everything else will: too much demand and not enough supply. Somebody (maybe even a lot of somebodies) isn't going to be able to get their fix.

As far as people using drugs "responsibly", I know it can happen. There are people capable of using drugs (weed and other more hard core stuff) and controlling their lives entirely. If you're one of these people, more power to you. But as far as trying to put most (or even many) drug users in this category... give me a break. I think people who are responsible enough to think about and control the way they use drugs wouldn't be using drugs in the first place. Of course there are always exceptions.

For the record, I don't think weed should be illegal. I don't thnk it's any worse than smoking or drinking, both of which are legal. Although I choose not to do drugs myself, I think the war on drugs is bullshit.

by **pongle** » Sun 08 May 2005, 16:20:34

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('some_guy282', 'I') think some of you are taking exceptions to the rule and broadly applying them to nearly everyone.

Can you grow weed now and have enough for yourself without spending any money on it? Sure. Will some people still be able to do this after the peak, even if TSHTF? Absolutely. Does this mean that's what the majority of people do now? NO. Granted, I don't have any hard #'s from studies or anything, but I bet that the vast majority of people who smoke weed (90% +) have to buy it from someone else. When transportation is disrupted, weed is going to suffer the same problem everything else will: too much demand and not enough supply. Somebody (maybe even a lot of somebodies) isn't going to be able to get their fix.

by **TWilliam** » Sun 15 May 2005, 18:46:12

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('some_guy282', '
')As far as people using drugs "responsibly", I know it can happen. There are people capable of using drugs (weed and other more hard core stuff) and controlling their lives entirely. If you're one of these people, more power to you. But as far as trying to put most (or even many) drug users in this category... give me a break. I think people who are responsible enough to think about and control the way they use drugs wouldn't be using drugs in the first place. Of course there are always exceptions.

by **Bytesmiths** » Sun 15 May 2005, 19:36:50

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('TWilliam', 'P')eople too often forget that "news" is by definition, the aberrant, the unusual, the atypical, and thus come to believe that what they see/hear from "fair-and-balanced" Fox is representative, when it is quite the opposite.

by **Lukethedrifter** » Tue 23 Aug 2005, 21:47:56

If a result of Peak Oil, and the economic crash, is that government will break down or be too busy to worry about people growing pot, then I'm looking forward to it. I can take care of myself, and I can enjoy taking care of myself if I can go to the backyard and pick my buds to smoke. For that....I can't wait.

by **PenultimateManStanding** » Wed 24 Aug 2005, 00:32:18

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('mryan', '
')A phyical object is inheirently neutral and cannot be good or bad. Is a gun good or bad? No. it is a piece of metal. Is a flower good? No, it is a collection of tissue and organic matter. Is weed good, is it bad? No, it is a substance which alters how you think, and how you feel. In fact, I am high right now.

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