[ralfy]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Cog', 'Y')ou will be much happier when you stop being a doomer. Trust me on this.

[Apneaman]

Too much of a good thing


High CO2 Makes Crops Less Nutritious

http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news ... e-science/

[Apneaman]

Severity of wheat diseases likely to increase as CO2 rises

Rising levels of atmospheric CO2 will
increase the severity of wheat diseases,
reducing yields and threatening food security, a new study suggests. Researchers
found that levels of two common wheat diseases increased significantly when plants were grown with elevated CO2. Furthermore, disease
levels were even worse when the plants and pathogens had been acclimatised to the higher concentrations of CO2 beforehand


http://ec.europa.eu/environment/integra ... na4_en.pdf

[Apneaman]

Jerry Brown’s climate warning: ‘We are talking about extinction’


http://www.sacbee.com/news/politics-gov ... 98554.html

[americandream]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('kiwichick', '@') pstarr

being intimately involved with the ag sector I can assure you no one is even thinking of co2 as a fertilizer

the top 3 are ( in New Zealand ) Phosphate, Nitrogen and Potassium

after that try Calcium, Magnesium, Sulpher and Sodium

then you would move to the trace elements

get all that right , add sunshine and rain and you should get a good result

I don't see co2 in that mix

[StarvingLion]

The only "solution" is nuclear GIGANTICISM.

The winner is whoever builds the largest possible Light Water Fission Reactors in the shortest possible time.

The semiconductor industry is killing us.

[StarvingLion]

Nothing will change until this is done at minimum:

Have the armed forces invade the offices of Goldman Sachs and other investment banks. Eliminate every existing central bank head (tools of GS). Abolish the stock market. Terminate the Department of Energy and the NRC. Ban Television. Hefty tariffs on China. Reduce pensions. Cease the subsidies for solar.

Utilize the military to seize uranium deposits

[ennui2]

So, SL, your approach to getting form here to there is, um, post rants on peakoil.com?

I tire of revolutionary talk like this. If you really think this is the only solution AND you think it's actually achievable, then come up with a real plan and not just a fantasy prescription of improbable events. Ranting about it here is pissing in the wind.

[SeaGypsy]

Where are your ideas Mosennui? Talk about pissing in the wind, there are few such armchair critics as you. How did your stupid little animation go at changing the status quo?

[ennui2]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('SeaGypsy', 'W')here are your ideas Mosennui? Talk about pissing in the wind, there are few such armchair critics as you. How did your stupid little animation go at changing the status quo?

[Apneaman]

So much for the mighty Redwood to the rescue.

California forests have become net climate polluters –‘The losses are outpacing the growth. The key element here is wildfire.’

http://beforeitsnews.com/environment/20 ... 28160.html

Climate Special: California forests have become net climate polluters, Alaska’s could be worse, and the oceans may swallow our cities soon . . . but there’s still hope.

https://kpfa.org/episode/upfront-july-22-2015/

[SeaGypsy]

The old timers in the forestry industry 30 years ago, who grew up with axes, cross saws & bullock teams, logging the same patch for generations, all thought the new age idea of 'wilderness' was all wrong, because untended wilderness, in hot dry conditions = wildfires. Aboriginal people around the world knew this & used periodic patch burning in seasonally dry country, specifically to aid hunting & prevent wildfire.
So called modern forest management practices are about patch total rape & destruction followed by factory farm styled planting, designed to maximise straight lumber, not genetic diversity or replication/ restoration. One of the industries that humans do which up close is horrific, at a distance, well it's nicer to have trees right? (About as deep as Joe Bloggs needs to go)

[americandream]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('StarvingLion', 'N')othing will change until this is done at minimum:

Have the armed forces invade the offices of Goldman Sachs and other investment banks. Eliminate every existing central bank head (tools of GS). Abolish the stock market. Terminate the Department of Energy and the NRC. Ban Television. Hefty tariffs on China. Reduce pensions. Cease the subsidies for solar.

Utilize the military to seize uranium deposits

[Apneaman]

And we are not ruled by heavily armed heredity overlords now? Clinton's, Bush's, Rothschild's, Rockefeller's to name a few. Where do most people get their information on the history of peasant societies from? Monty Python? Hollywood? Economists and other cheerleaders of progress who don't have a clue either? I think there a many intentional myths spun to further an agenda (starting in the Victorian era) and it certainty worked, but there is plenty of evidence to counter and correct those myths although I doubt much would penetrate the religion of modernity and neo liberalism. Sure they had their struggles and heartbreaks and it seems like hell to us from a distance, but they had rich lives in ways we can only dream about. The truth is there is more we do not know about their lives than what we do know. We do have much more information on the common man starting in the medieval period though. It appears to be another case of the victor getting to write the history. Those Victorians use to believe and perpetrate the Roman ideology pertaining to the Barbarians too. We now know much of that was also propaganda.

Pre-industrial workers had a shorter workweek than today's

http://groups.csail.mit.edu/mac/users/r ... kweek.html

Antibiotic-Resistant Bacteria Are No Match For Medieval Potion

Recipe from Bald's Leechbook found to be highly effective against MRSA

http://www.popsci.com/ancient-medical-r ... t-bacteria

How Did People in the Middle Ages Get Rid of Human Waste?

http://www.slate.com/blogs/quora/2013/1 ... ndows.html

Has There Been Progress Since 1250?

“Even in backward mining communities, as late as the sixteenth century more than half the recorded days were holidays; while for Europe as a whole, the total number of holidays, including Sunday, came to 189, a number even greater than those enjoyed by Imperial Rome. Nothing more clearly indicates a surplus of food and human energy, if not material goods. Modern labor-saving devices have as yet done no better.”

http://www.notechmagazine.com/2010/04/h ... 50-ii.html

Medieval England twice as well off as today’s poorest nations

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/20 ... 234308.htm

The great Medieval water myth

http://leslefts.blogspot.com.au/2013/11 ... -myth.html

[americandream]

apneaman

I suspect you are confusing the oases of primitive socialism or the commons with the landed servitude of feudal estates. The two were very different. Communism the seeks to recreate socialism of the past.

[ennui2]

If Medieval hygiene was so great, they wouldn't have suffered so badly from the plagues. Until relatively recently, for instance, people rarely took baths and wore the same clothes endlessly.

What articles like that thing on Slate really represent is the need today to create sensational headlines for attention (i.e. link-bait). If you can try to bust conventional ideas, you can get more attention.

[Apneaman]

ennui, first off, I never said it was great so don't try to put words in my mouth. But thanks for proving my point by going straight to the myths without actually doing any research of your own. Ignorance of disease is not the same as bad hygiene habits. If they knew about disease, like that fleas on rats carried plague, I think they would have adjusted and brought down the death toll. Plague still exists and without modern antibiotics (which are going away) we would see a lot of death no matter how many other precautions we took (same for many diseases). You are also completely wrong about bathing. There are plenty of resources easily available to anyone with the curiosity to look at the actual history of our ancestors. Of course that would blow the progress myth and the easy soothing feelings of superiority out of the bath water.

Did people in the Middle Ages take baths?

http://www.medievalists.net/2013/04/13/ ... ake-baths/

[ennui2]

"Medievalists.net". In other words, a site where people have a constant hard-on for the lifestyle of the middle-ages and want to rationalize it by any means necessary. I could just as well link to anti-civ sites that extoll the virtues of hunter-gatherer living and who bristle at the idea it was "nasty, brutish, and short", etc... These types of groups have clear biases. I am not going to take their claims at face-value.

[Apneaman]

Sure thing, they made it all up for grant money. They forged those Medieval paintings of people bathing and they also forged the the historical documents they quoted. They are trying to steal your Merican freedom and liberty and increase your taxes by propagating the hoax of the old world bathing order. Got to get up real early to put on over on you pardner.