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Re: Humans are not intelligent.

Unread postby Tikib » Sun 20 Nov 2016, 08:25:12

People have some how managed to convince themselves that lives have value, that theres a point to having fun and all this sort of stuff. But its evidently not true.
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Re: Humans are not intelligent.

Unread postby Cog » Sun 20 Nov 2016, 08:48:33

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Tikib', 'T')heres no value in going to parties.


I don't know how to ask this delicately so I'll be blunt. Have you ever been laid?
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Re: Humans are not intelligent.

Unread postby Tikib » Sun 20 Nov 2016, 08:49:33

Heh your STILL not getting it.
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Re: Humans are not intelligent.

Unread postby Tikib » Sun 20 Nov 2016, 08:53:26

Lets say I had sex every day for 400 days. What was the point?
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Re: Humans are not intelligent.

Unread postby Cog » Sun 20 Nov 2016, 08:59:52

The point is if you had sex for 400 days straight you would get a high five from me. After you washed your hand of course.
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Re: Humans are not intelligent.

Unread postby Tikib » Sun 20 Nov 2016, 09:01:41

All completely pointless. The past is as if it never happened and once your dead from your point of view its as if nothing ever existed.
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Re: Humans are not intelligent.

Unread postby Ibon » Sun 20 Nov 2016, 09:35:19

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Tikib', 'Y')ou still don't get it, read what the others have said. There is no 'you' , its merely an illusion created by your brain. Your merely a process towards death. Seriously think about the fact that one day soon you won't even be an illusion. And then you will realise that nothing matters at all.


There is no me and there is no you. I do understand this. These are only mental constructs. The funny thing is that you, contemplating this, is also just a mental construct. There is something absurdly funny about you posting this on a msg board as a debate. This non entity, valueless and non existent, trying to convince others of being non entities. Invested in proving others that nothing has value is where you are self defeated because you are obviously giving value to wanting to be right.

The pain of a rusty nail or the pleasure of sex, that moment of orgasm when mental thoughts are eclipsed. The creative process where the doer disappears and a nocturne is composed. Out in the woods when the veil drops and the split between man and nature dissolves. Between us and life there is this mental construct that constantly gives names and labels to things.

Existence and value happens in the moments when the mental constructs are eclipsed by being.

Have you ever been present in a room when someone is born or dies? The experience eclipses any mental construct.
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Re: Humans are not intelligent.

Unread postby Tikib » Sun 20 Nov 2016, 09:46:28

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Ibon', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Tikib', 'Y')ou still don't get it, read what the others have said. There is no 'you' , its merely an illusion created by your brain. Your merely a process towards death. Seriously think about the fact that one day soon you won't even be an illusion. And then you will realise that nothing matters at all.


There is no me and there is no you. I do understand this. These are only mental constructs. The funny thing is that you, contemplating this, is also just a mental construct. There is something absurdly funny about you posting this on a msg board as a debate. This non entity, valueless and non existent, trying to convince others of being non entities. Invested in proving others that nothing has value is where you are self defeated because you are obviously giving value to wanting to be right.

The pain of a rusty nail or the pleasure of sex, that moment of orgasm when mental thoughts are eclipsed. The creative process where the doer disappears and a nocturne is composed. Out in the woods when the veil drops and the split between man and nature dissolves. Between us and life there is this mental construct that constantly gives names and labels to things.

Existence and value happens in the moments when the mental constructs are eclipsed by being.

Have you ever been present in a room when someone is born or dies? The experience eclipses any mental construct.


Yep existence is absurd in every possible way.
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Re: Humans are not intelligent.

Unread postby Tikib » Sun 20 Nov 2016, 09:49:42

But I don't put any value on it.
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Re: Humans are not intelligent.

Unread postby Tikib » Sun 20 Nov 2016, 10:01:28

There is no moment of birth or death everything is just a process from the beginning of the universe to its end.
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Re: Humans are not intelligent.

Unread postby Cog » Sun 20 Nov 2016, 10:35:14

By admitting the universe exists, you have just been hoisted on your petard. You just don't realize it yet.
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Re: Humans are not intelligent.

Unread postby Tikib » Sun 20 Nov 2016, 11:07:28

No I have not. The universe is like a virtual particle. It doesn't really exist either.
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Re: Humans are not intelligent.

Unread postby onlooker » Sun 20 Nov 2016, 11:30:52

Yep, nothing exists. But eating yummy ice cream can make anybody think different :lol: :lol:
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Re: Humans are not intelligent.

Unread postby Tikib » Sun 20 Nov 2016, 12:29:35

No point in eating icecream.
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Re: Humans are not intelligent.

Unread postby sparky » Sun 20 Nov 2016, 18:12:49

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" Blade Runner - Final scene, "Tears in Rain"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jvFYgELj2X0
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Re: Humans are not intelligent.

Unread postby onlooker » Sun 20 Nov 2016, 18:29:27

As a species we have been anything but intelligent given our devastatingly grim predicament currently. Oh yes remember that scene Sparky, so sad all beings wish to live despite the arduous nature of existence.
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Re: Humans are not intelligent.

Unread postby Cog » Sun 20 Nov 2016, 19:33:20

I've watched the movie Blade Runner many times. Great flick. There are levels of existence that are indeed arduous as onlooker as pointed out. But still we persist in trying to find meaning in it. I reject the notion we are just smart apes but something rather unique. At least to this planet.
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Re: Humans are not intelligent.

Unread postby Cog » Sun 20 Nov 2016, 21:47:22

Before I worked in construction surveying and engineering, I worked on off-shore drilling rigs for a year as a young man. Perhaps you shouldn't opine about what a person knows or doesn't know, unless you know their personal history. I like you pete but sometimes you lead with your chin.
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