[Daniel_Plainview]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Kristjan', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Daniel_Plainview', '
')1. The US's hollowed-out manufacturing base (less than 9% of the economy is mfg, back to 1941 levels)

[pablonite]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Tanada', 'T')hat is the most likely reason the Markets didn't get a bump from the rosy picture presented, they do no believe the number is real and neither do I.

[dsula]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Ludi', '
')We don't need to worry about the rich, they will be fine. We need to be worrying about the rest of us.

[Kristjan]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Daniel_Plainview', '
')1. The US's hollowed-out manufacturing base (less than 9% of the economy is mfg, back to 1941 levels)

[Ludi]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('dsula', '
')Very much we need to worry about the rich. Many of the rich are rich because they built successful businesses, employing the rest of us. Or do you expect J6P to be able to feed himself without a 'strong' employer to show him what to do?

[Kristjan]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('pstarr', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Kristjan', 'y')ou want the low paying jobs that require no specific skills to be returned to America.

[Ludi]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Kristjan', 'w')hy would a business owner keep his business here if he can ship it to Asia?

[rangerone314]

Something about GDP +5.7% at this point reminds me of the "dead cat" bounce that sometimes happens in a stock market.

[Kristjan]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('rangerone314', 'S')omething about GDP +5.7% at this point reminds me of the "dead cat" bounce that sometimes happens in a stock market.

[Ludi]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Kristjan', ' ')But you need to get over that and look at the real world.

[Outcast_Searcher]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Ludi', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Kristjan', 'w')hy would a business owner keep his business here if he can ship it to Asia?

[Ludi]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Outcast_Searcher', '
')
It only pays to be "nice" in business, if there is an advantage.

[Outcast_Searcher]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('dsula', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Ludi', '
')We don't need to worry about the rich, they will be fine. We need to be worrying about the rest of us.

[rangerone314]

Its a shame Ayn Rand is dead.

Then maybe she could have written a book about how to tackle the issue of globalization and the race to the bottom in wages, employment, environmental and living standards, and how "The Fountainhead" relates to outsourcing and China.

it would be interesting to see her takes on mountaintop removal and well-water contamination by fracking, and how that relates to Objectivism.

[Ludi]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('rangerone314', '
')it would be interesting to see her takes on mountaintop removal and well-water contamination by fracking, and how that relates to Objectivism.

[Revi]

I think there are a lot of different economies, and the most obvious is the wage earning, paper profits one that is in trouble. The household economy and the natural economy continue.

Mountaintop removal is a crazy thing to do. Remove the fertility of the earth so that we can keep i-pods running is suicidal. But we do it to feed the "real" economy.

The most fertile part of Australia is getting pulverized to get the coal out and send it to China.

How nuts is that?

Coal minehttp://www.xstrata.com/operation/mangoola/details/

Those are really nice forested hills that are going to be turned into a pile of waste which will benefit the "Economy" and provide 240 jobs.

Those woods could provide 240 jobs for a thousand years.

[Kristjan]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('rangerone314', 'I')ts a shame Ayn Rand is dead.