by Tyler_JC » Thu 10 May 2007, 18:28:19
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Madpaddy', 'I')'ld go back to East Coast United States in about 1680 and give the Indians a few history books about their fate and then I'ld give them machine guns and rpgs.
Ah yes, because a Spanish Empire covering all of North, Central, and South America would have been a much better situation for the Indians.
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by Tyler_JC » Thu 10 May 2007, 18:34:11
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Tanada', 'A') permanently agrarian USA wouldn't have gotten into this mess
As for your plan, lest we forget you would have to have them repudiate the treaty with Belgium before the assassination of Archduke Ferdinand.
#1. A permanently broke USA would have been eaten alive by creditors. We would be run by some banker's nephew from Holland by about 1800.
#2. Who cares about Belgium? The British Empire covered 30% of the world's land and 1/4 of its people in 1914. They could deal with losing the support of Belgium. And every single place that the British colonized were better off as a result (at least in aggregate, the locals suffered horribly in some places for a while)
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by Tyler_JC » Thu 10 May 2007, 18:55:37
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Madpaddy', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'A')nd every single place that the British colonized were better off as a result
Boll*x to that. They fu*ked up Ireland for 800 years. Even most British people would agree with me.
Well, under British rule, Ireland became modernized/industrialized.
In fact, the British did such a great job of modernizing Ireland that Ireland is now a far superior place to live.
International Rankings of Ireland
#4 in GDP per person
#1 in Freedom of the Press
#2 Beer consumption per person
Essentially 100% Literacy
Very low AIDS/HIV rate
The UK is a mere #6 in beer consumption.
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by Baldwin » Thu 10 May 2007, 20:55:04
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Tyler_JC', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Madpaddy', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'A')nd every single place that the British colonized were better off as a result
Boll*x to that. They fu*ked up Ireland for 800 years. Even most British people would agree with me.
Well, under British rule, Ireland became modernized/industrialized.
In fact, the British did such a great job of modernizing Ireland that Ireland is now a far superior place to live.
International Rankings of Ireland#4 in GDP per person
#1 in Freedom of the Press
#2 Beer consumption per person
Essentially 100% Literacy
Very low AIDS/HIV rate
The UK is a mere #6 in beer consumption.
Excuse me? Ireland was a nation of farmers well into the 20th century. They went through the "troubles" and began to really thrive with increased tourist interest and a developing technology industry.
Ireland was a center of culture and learning before the Norman conquest. Then England came and came within a hairs' breadth of destroying Irish culture.
Ireland did not ever need England. In fact, no white european people has ever needed to be conquered for cultural transmission because they are so damn close together.
Africa is another story....they'd still be running around in grass skirts if Europeans didn't come. Europeans kept the peace....then Africans felt they could govern themselves. Gee...what a success story.
