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Postby Agren » Wed 12 Jan 2005, 04:18:43

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'T')his same lecture, in high quality video, with good graphics and animations for all his slides is available on DVD from the University of Nebraska here:
http://scimath.unl.edu/exp/exp.html

I want to be in on that Book/DVD singing, any idea of what melody to use?
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Postby Itch » Wed 12 Jan 2005, 06:38:01

In my opinion, this video is far superior to "Suburbia."

Having no pretty pictures, music, or any other unnecessary shit made it awesome already, but the overall structure and order, along with the quality of the actual narration, made it even more engaging. It closed with a solid ending with a very valuable tip: don't let people do thinking for you. The guy's relief jokes were pretty funny. "If you've thought about getting gallbladder surgery, do it now." "Anyone here for promoting disease?" This is not only pretty funny shit when it's in context, but it also provides some relief and entertainment for those who prefer it.

It actually makes "Suburbia" look like a piece of shit, really. I'd recommend this as primary introduction material, and it's probably a good idea to watch the video a few times in order to get all of the details.
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Postby Ayoob_Reloaded » Thu 27 Jan 2005, 00:17:11

Wow, I guess y'all liked that one. With the kind of response it's gotten, I wonder if it's possible to burn it to a VCD and hand it out to people to play in their computers or DVD players. Anybody have a copy that can be transcoded to .vob format or something like that? I hand stuff like this out to people all the time. I'd be sure to have ten copies or so floating around in my backpack for slow days.
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Postby EZODIAK » Thu 27 Jan 2005, 00:23:59

i stuck my video camera to my monitor and shot it off screen it was so good. Burned it to Dvd and have been distributing...
thx for posting
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Postby Ayoob_Reloaded » Thu 27 Jan 2005, 00:30:16

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('EZODIAK', 'i') stuck my video camera to my monitor and shot it off screen it was so good. Burned it to Dvd and have been distributing...
thx for posting


No way. That's cool. How many have you handed out? Do you write www.peakoil.com on the DVD when you hand them out?
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Postby lowem » Thu 27 Jan 2005, 01:13:52

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Ayoob_Reloaded', 'W')ow, I guess y'all liked that one. With the kind of response it's gotten, I wonder if it's possible to burn it to a VCD and hand it out to people to play in their computers or DVD players. Anybody have a copy that can be transcoded to .vob format or something like that? I hand stuff like this out to people all the time. I'd be sure to have ten copies or so floating around in my backpack for slow days.


You can get the 400 MB source AVI off Emule or Bittorrent (if the torrent is still up) and re-code it yourself. If you know how to do it, have a fast PC *and* have the source file it should be pretty quick.

Otherwise, I can re-encode the copy I have to VCD (MPEG1) format. Now, would that be NTSC or PAL? :)

My upstream bandwidth sucks though (only 16 KB/sec), so it will take half a day to send out just one copy to anywhere else.
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Postby Ayoob_Reloaded » Thu 27 Jan 2005, 01:35:03

That'd be NTSC, and I'd love a link. I'm headed off to school in ten hours, and I'd love to d/l a 400Mb file from you. I've got a couple hundred people to make copies for.

I blew this kid's mind on the oil thing yesterday at school and I'd love to give him something like this to look at. It's just unbelievable, you know? Could you imagine being 18 right now and having somebody hand you the AJ Bartlett video? It's just crazy.

He's from Guatemala and thinks the US$ is always going to be king. I don't want to burst his bubble all the way. He wants to be a doctor. For once I'm going to hold back. I'd rather see this kid train to be an MD all the way through. I like him, he's smart, looks like a good guy. Fuck it. I'm going to let him find out on his own. I want a doctor who's 15 years younger than me to be out there when I'm 70, you know? I'm going to encourage him to do his thing and get the MD now, while he can. It's only eight years to get the MD. I think things will stay in one piece until then.

I will tell him enough to get him to keep all his textbooks and pass on the information to the next generation. He's going to have to be a doctor, and we're going to lose information from one generation to the next from here on out.
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Postby skiwi » Thu 27 Jan 2005, 02:50:43

I reencoded the .avi file to a pal vcd with ffmpegx on my powerbook
then burnt it with toast and it plays fine on the tv with a dvd player

I left one on the teachers lunchroom table at my kids primary school
Let us make him who shall nourish and sustain us. What shall we do to be invoked; to be remembered in the earth.
We have tried with our first creatures but we could not make them venerate us.
So let us try to make obedient respectful beings who shall
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Postby lowem » Thu 27 Jan 2005, 03:20:58

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Ayoob_Reloaded', 'T')hat'd be NTSC, and I'd love a link. I'm headed off to school in ten hours, and I'd love to d/l a 400Mb file from you. I've got a couple hundred people to make copies for.


MPEG1 is unfortunately a little less compressible than MPEG4, it will probably be more than 400 MB, probably 600-700 MB.

It's encoding right now on my AMD64, looks like the encoding speed is near or better than real-time.

Now I have to figure out how to send it over.

Do you have the Emule or Bittorrent client?
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Postby lowem » Thu 27 Jan 2005, 03:44:10

It's done. That was fast. Over 2x real time speed. Way better than my old P3. Okay, I've put the file into my emule shared folder.

Here's the ED2K link :
ed2k : arithmetic-population-and-energy-dr-albert-bartlett-ntsc-vcd.mpg

Ayoob_Reloaded, if you don't have the Emule client, the link is here :
http://www.emule-project.net

The rest of you who also have Emule or Edonkey, can help to spread this by downloading from me and setting this to release mode.

If nobody helps out, it will take 12-16 hours for me to send it over. If there are people helping out, it might take a bit less than that.
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Postby BabyPeanut » Thu 27 Jan 2005, 09:53:23

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Agren', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'T')his same lecture, in high quality video, with good graphics and animations for all his slides is available on DVD from the University of Nebraska here:
http://scimath.unl.edu/exp/exp.html

I want to be in on that Book/DVD singing, any idea of what melody to use?
:lol:

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Postby Taskforce_Unity » Thu 27 Jan 2005, 15:24:24

Now downloading it. If i'm done i can be able to share it at much faster speeds i have a university connection. I'll share it on bittorent and Emule. (as with some other docu's ofcourse)
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Postby lowem » Sat 29 Jan 2005, 00:33:21

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Taskforce_Unity', 'N')ow downloading it. If i'm done i can be able to share it at much faster speeds i have a university connection. I'll share it on bittorent and Emule. (as with some other docu's ofcourse)


Cool. Same as before, anyone wants to download and/or help share it, PM me your Emule userID. If I see you, I will add you to my friends list, and if there is a friend slot available I'll give it to you (equals guaranteed download, jump queue :lol: ).
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Postby Golgo13 » Sat 29 Jan 2005, 05:01:22

I'm gonna send off for the DVD.
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Postby johnmarkos » Sun 30 Jan 2005, 00:42:03

I watched the video and afterwards had something of a realization. I was disagreeing with MonteQuest earlier (here) about whether human population growth was currently exponential because of the shape of the population growth curve over the past couple of decades. Over this period, world population growth has dropped from about 87.5 million per year to about 73 million per year. In the past couple years the raw number of people added to the population has risen slightly, but only a little bit. This gives the appearance of linearity, more or less.

http://www.census.gov/ipc/www/worldpop.html

Now here's the important point and it's actually a rather sophisticated one. As long as there are more people, year after year, the human population is growing by a certain rate. The reason for this is that every year there are more people to have more babies. Each family has a certain number of children. In aggregate this means that as long as population is growing, the number of children added to the population each year is dependent on the number of people that already exist.

We look at populations as having a birth rate and a death rate. If the birth rate is higher than the death rate, then the population is growing at a certain rate. Growth at a certain rate is by definition exponential. More people can have more babies: therefore, the same birth rate and death rate with more people means exponential growth.

I recently attended a screening of The End of Suburbia, followed by a panel discussion with Richard Heinberg and some officials involved in San Francisco local government. It was quite obvious from the comments made by the local goverment panelists that they did not understand the implications of exponential growth. As Dr. Bartlett said, officials in government from the local to the national level fail to understand the exponential function.
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Postby TWilliam » Sun 30 Jan 2005, 13:11:16

Dang. Wish I had a DVD burner... :cry:

Anyway, if anyone's interested, there's a nicely formatted version of Professor Bartlett's original paper "Forgotten Fundamentals of the Energy Crisis", on which the video is based, posted here. Good for sending to people who may not have broadband or a DVD player yet... :wink:
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Postby maverickdoc » Sun 30 Jan 2005, 13:31:12

great video
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Postby Ayoob_Reloaded » Sun 30 Jan 2005, 13:45:22

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('lowem', 'I')t's done. That was fast. Over 2x real time speed. Way better than my old P3. Okay, I've put the file into my emule shared folder.

Here's the ED2K link :
ed2k : arithmetic-population-and-energy-dr-albert-bartlett-ntsc-vcd.mpg

Ayoob_Reloaded, if you don't have the Emule client, the link is here :
http://www.emule-project.net

The rest of you who also have Emule or Edonkey, can help to spread this by downloading from me and setting this to release mode.

If nobody helps out, it will take 12-16 hours for me to send it over. If there are people helping out, it might take a bit less than that.


I'm in the queue for your file. It looks like it's going to be a while before I get in. Once I get it down I'll leave it up for two weeks straight to try and get it out. After that, I'll do what I can.
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Postby lowem » Sun 30 Jan 2005, 22:15:55

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Ayoob_Reloaded', 'I')'m in the queue for your file. It looks like it's going to be a while before I get in. Once I get it down I'll leave it up for two weeks straight to try and get it out. After that, I'll do what I can.


I *think* I see you, you the one with the default userID? - which is "http://www.emule-project.net". Hope I gave away the friend slot to the right person.

You should be getting about 3 KB/sec from me - not sure how to give you more than one slot (I have about 4 slots of 3 KB/sec each). At this rate it will take about 2.5 days. I'll be leaving it on 24/7 except for maybe a couple of hours at night (SGT) when I turn it off temporarily to play Counter-strike ... :P
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Postby mikela » Mon 31 Jan 2005, 04:07:01

lowem, I see your 654MB version and I hope it catches on, but I'd rather settle for the 400MB avi considering I've been downloading it on and off for 30 hours now and have only received 32MB. At this rate it will take more than two weeks to download it. It would go faster if I were on someone's buddy list (any offers?) but that could quite a burden-- proportional to my slow 1 to 5 kB/s download speed and inversely proportional to the low number of servers with the file.
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