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Estonia Embraced Austerity and Economy is Now Booming
Re: Estonia Embraced Austerity and Economy is Now Booming
by radon » Thu 14 Jun 2012, 05:18:32
Yeah, small useless country - if you nuke them, they will all die and there will be no one left to write a constitution for.
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Re: Estonia Embraced Austerity and Economy is Now Booming
by SeaGypsy » Thu 14 Jun 2012, 05:55:46
Ad's emphsasis 'ENTIRELY" is the only problem I have with this post, I think requires elaboration. Perhaps it's more the dependency on fostering the culture of profligacy in the longer term, preferably internally to these mercantilist countries and regions, setting the grounds for implosion all over the place. China, India and the Tigers are classic examples where the infiltration of Americanism is what has driven the massive growth spurt over the last decade. The leadership are aware of this and it does set up all kinds of quandary. Whilst attempting to maintain some kind of national identity, everyone is being sucked into this London originating/ NY enforced global culture war, which can only have losers in the long run.
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Re: Estonia Embraced Austerity and Economy is Now Booming
by TheAntiDoomer » Thu 14 Jun 2012, 10:27:07
"The human ability to innovate out of a jam is profound.That’s why Darwin will always be right, and Malthus will always be wrong.” -K.R. Sridhar
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Re: Estonia Embraced Austerity and Economy is Now Booming
by SeaGypsy » Thu 14 Jun 2012, 20:45:28
http://www.sbs.com.au/ondemand/video/22 ... ms-of-Hate
Video exposing some pretty intense implications inside and around football hooliganism in Estonia.
Video exposing some pretty intense implications inside and around football hooliganism in Estonia.
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Re: Estonia Embraced Austerity and Economy is Now Booming
by Outcast_Searcher » Sun 17 Jun 2012, 05:05:59
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Plantagenet', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('americandream', ' ')This is the crisis of globalisation that Marx contemplated
No its not.
Marx didn't have a clue about peak oil and its silly to pretend he did.
Right. We constantly talk about peak oil and the consequences for the global economy (while the population expands apace, making things much worse) and how that's unsustainable.
To me, some things seem rather obvious, from a global perspepective:
1). It's easy to have the ILLUSION of BAU growth persist UNTIL there are no longer plenty of CHEAP resources to utilize per capita (supporting massive growth).
2). We have now REACHED the end of such cheap resources -- peak oil (or the end of cheap oil, take your pick) being the catalyst (or the obvious signal flag).
3). A gigantic percentage of people are oblivious to this, or in complete denial. In the U.S., the far right denies the possibility of finite resources, claims "Star Trek" technology will "take care of everything", or even cites "God" or some version of man's manifest destiny to justify maximizing resource utilization (i.e. profit for the wealthy). Meanwhile the far (overall) left denies the possibility that collectively we can bear any form of (common sense) "austerity" as a whole -- i.e. using less resources on average (and controlling global population growth) before we destroy ourselves. Somehow "fairness" always seems to trump ending ANY government programs, no matter how useless or destructive (this goes for both sides of the political spectrum, despite all the rhetoric).
From what I see on the news about European and third world politics via growth and economic issues overall -- the details may be different, but the basic pattern seems to hold globally.
We don't have infinite resources to consume -- whether we redistribute them massively in an attempt to make things "fair", or not. Thus, SOME form of austerity on a global scale WILL take place if technological advances can't overcome the issues fast enough. (If mother nature enforces the "austerity" it's called "die off", and is far less pleasant than, say, less consumption).
There seems to be growing evidence that technology can't outpace our problems. But by all means, let's stick our heads firmly in the sand, argue some political perspective until the bitter, even vindictive end, and know in our hearts that we're "right". That is working SO WELL that we should certainly continue down that road.
Give the human race a giant "Darwin Award" Kewpie doll. After all, we seem to "win" it every day, via our collective stupidity. It seems tragic to me, but I grew up before these issues were so readily apparent.
Given the track record of the perma-doomer blogs, I wouldn't bet a fast crash doomer's money on their predictions.
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Re: Estonia Embraced Austerity and Economy is Now Booming
by Oneaboveall » Tue 19 Jun 2012, 02:19:32
“Great Latvian Success Story!”
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'Y')ou too can be an IMF success story if you grind your population into penury by wearing the austerian hairshirt...
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'Y')ou too can be an IMF success story if you grind your population into penury by wearing the austerian hairshirt...
http://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2012/06/ ... story.html
When the banksters want something, our policymakers move with the speed of Mercury and the determination of Ares. It’s only when the rest of us need something that there is paralysis.
How free are we today with the dominance of globalist capital and militarized security apparatus?
How free are we today with the dominance of globalist capital and militarized security apparatus?
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