[AdamB]

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A successful transition to a 21st Century Electricity System requires careful consideration of a range of issues that will ultimately redefine the regulatory framework and utility business model while creating new opportunities for third-party providers and customers to contribute to the operation of the electricity system. In this third in a series published by Utility Dive, AEE explores traditional and “pay for performance” approaches to energy efficiency (EE). Energy efficiency (EE), broadly defined, means using less energy to provide the same, or often superior, energy services. EE is most commonly thought of as technologies that reduce energy use relative to traditional technologies, such as LED lighting and high efficiency appliances and heating and cooling equipment. But today, EE also includes the use of sophisticated energy management systems, internet-connected thermostats, and data analytics. Many benefits come from EE technologies and practices, including cost savings for customers,

[Subjectivist]

I remember hearing this same theory since at least 1979 when President Carter wore sweaters on TV and told everyone to turn down there thermostats in winter. Didn't work too well back then, and now I live in a relatively well insulated house with double pane windows with LED bulbs in all my light sockets. Not a whole lot more conserving I can do unless I move another family in here to increase the population density for utility ratio.

[vtsnowedin]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('baha', ' ')I wish my dishwasher could tell when the solar is cranking out power and turn itself on.

[Subjectivist]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('baha', 'H')ey Sub,
Absolutely not true. Carter had the right idea but the public decided it would be more fun to build an unsustainable debt and then crash...whatever...
I expect you have seen my level of data analytics. It is central to planning and implementing a sustainable lifestyle. You may feel good about your LEDs but do you know how much difference it really made? I know when my power is available, where it comes from, and where it goes. As long as I live within my limits, TPTB can ESAD! (Eat Shit And Die)

I am developing the algorithms that will govern your future energy usage. I have to manually control many things right now. But in the future it could all be integrated and operate completely hands off. I wish my dishwasher could tell when the solar is cranking out power and turn itself on.

[Outcast_Searcher]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Subjectivist', 'I') remember hearing this same theory since at least 1979 when President Carter wore sweaters on TV and told everyone to turn down there thermostats in winter. Didn't work too well back then, and now I live in a relatively well insulated house with double pane windows with LED bulbs in all my light sockets.

[Subjectivist]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Outcast_Searcher', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Subjectivist', 'I') remember hearing this same theory since at least 1979 when President Carter wore sweaters on TV and told everyone to turn down there thermostats in winter. Didn't work too well back then, and now I live in a relatively well insulated house with double pane windows with LED bulbs in all my light sockets.

[yellowcanoe]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Subjectivist', '
')Additional insulation is also a great addition to a home, but the cost of added insulation vs the pay off time in lower winter heating bills also runs into the law of diminishing returns.

Point being, if you are building a brand new home with excellent insulation, high efficiency furnace and all LED lights where do you go for greater efficiency?

[AdamB]

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')To focus on energy efficiency is to make present ways of life non-negotiable. However, transforming present ways of life is key to mitigating climate change and decreasing our dependence on fossil fuels. Energy efficiency policy Energy efficiency is a cornerstone of policies to reduce carbon emissions and fossil fuel dependence in the industrialised world. For example, the European Union (EU) has set a target of achieving 20% energy savings through improvements in energy efficiency by 2020, and 30% by 2030. Measures to achieve these EU goals include mandatory energy efficiency certificates for buildings, minimum efficiency standards and labelling for a variety of products such as boilers, household appliances, lighting and televisions, and emissions performance standards for cars. [1] The EU has the world’s most progressive energy efficiency policy, but similar measures are now applied in many other industrialised countries, including China. On a

[vtsnowedin]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('yellowcanoe', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Subjectivist', '
')Additional insulation is also a great addition to a home, but the cost of added insulation vs the pay off time in lower winter heating bills also runs into the law of diminishing returns.

Point being, if you are building a brand new home with excellent insulation, high efficiency furnace and all LED lights where do you go for greater efficiency?

[Subjectivist]

There is a world difference between your example and mine. Sure your example is valid for people in a certain set of circumstances, but I belive mine is fairly universal including those folks in the shoebox apartments.

[vtsnowedin]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Subjectivist', 'T')here is a world difference between your example and mine. Sure your example is valid for people in a certain set of circumstances, but I belive mine is fairly universal including those folks in the shoebox apartments.

[ralfy]

In capitalist systems involving competition, the reason for being more efficient is not to use less energy or even material resources but the opposite.

[vtsnowedin]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('ralfy', 'I')n capitalist systems involving competition, the reason for being more efficient is not to use less energy or even material resources but the opposite.

[jack1212]

Energy efficiency is crucial for sustainability, but gains become harder after initial improvements (the "low-hanging fruit"). Advanced tech (IoT, data analytics) and lifestyle changes are key to further progress. It's about more than cost savings—it's about a resilient, sustainable future.

[theluckycountry]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('vtsnowedin', '
')I'm not arguing with you point about diminishing returns.
It is valid.
I am disagreeing with Yellow Canoe's assertion that down sizing to save energy requires a reduction in standard of living.

[AdamB]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('theluckycountry', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('vtsnowedin', '
')I'm not arguing with you point about diminishing returns.
It is valid.
I am disagreeing with Yellow Canoe's assertion that down sizing to save energy requires a reduction in standard of living.

[theluckycountry]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('theluckycountry', 'T')his is nobodies liability. True wealth throughout time.

[AdamB]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('theluckycountry', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('theluckycountry', 'T')his is nobodies liability. True wealth throughout time.

[careinke]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('theluckycountry', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('theluckycountry', 'T')his is nobodies liability. True wealth throughout time.