[vox_mundi]

From the same folks who brought us ‘Truth Isn’t Truth’ ...

Trump Administration Says Conserving Oil is No Longer an Economic Imperative for U.S.

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', '[')b]Conserving oil is no longer an economic imperative for the U.S., the Trump administration declares in a major new policy statement that threatens to undermine decades of government campaigns for gas-thrifty cars and other conservation programs.

The position was outlined in a memo released last month in support of the administration's proposal to relax fuel mileage standards. The government released the memo online this month without fanfare.

With the memo, the administration is formally challenging old justifications for conservation — even congressionally prescribed ones, as with the mileage standards. The memo made no mention of climate change.
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', '[')b]"American businesses, consumers and our environment are all the losers under his plan," ... "The only clear winner is the oil industry. It's not hard to see whose side President Trump is on."

[ROCKMAN]

A "red flag" warning in the Bakken? No, it isn't: it's a condition fully anticipated by anyone knowledgable of oil production operations. This same phenomenon has happened in every newly developed trend of water drive oil reservoirs. Early on most of the wells produce no or very little water. But as a trend continues to be developed wells drilled early on begin producing more water as they deplete. But new wells are producing more oil. But eventually the NUMBER of the older wells (with ever increasing water production) begin exceeding the number of new wells brought on line. And simple arithmetic explains why the total water production in the trend starts exceeding the total oil production. It is inevitable and always has been. And this differential can show a very big jump should the number of new wells deceases significantly. As might happen if oil prices fall and activity decreases.

[ROCKMAN]

And at no time as long as I've drawn breath have I felt conserving oil in the US was an "economic imperative". At least no after gasoline prices began to drop. LOL.

[Pops]

Not sure why the big font, is anyone surprised?
Don't look for logic, there is none beyond dismantling every forward thinking idea since, say, Goldwater.
It's called reactionary for a reason.
just read the hat

[Newfie]

I just posted about this on the LTG thread, as it seems to indicate they have no idea that fossil fuels will eventually become scared, that there are limits.

Yes Pops, this crowd in office are dumb shits.

Now there are two questions....
1- Are American voters stupid enough to believe this?
2- is the Democrat party smart enough to put forward a decent alternative or just another shill?

Put differently...
Will we be given an effective choice?
Will we vote for it?

[Pops]

If the "they're all the same" refrain survived 2016 I'm pretty sure it will continue, Newf

The best thing about trump is he drew the line between DnR brighter than it's been in a while.
I'll not list the ways (it would only bring 12 replies of "Yeahbut whaddabout...")

Ds like to fall in love, Obama, Clinton, Carter were all fresh faces. Clinton II was anything but, so she lost.
I'd like to say Bern or Pocahontas because I like their good old fashioned pro-labor, "anti-monopoly" chops, but they're old hat.

Gonna be someone we've not heard from much. Like I said somewhere else, probably off-white, 50% chance female, late 40s maybe 50.

There is gonna be lots of pussy hat, me too, BLM, America (not russia) first, Pro-Intel (of all things), Law n Order (but fair sentencing) ... crimeney, who knows? It's like a campaign manager goodie bag!

Likely not the Ukrainian kind, lol

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[KaiserJeep]

I think it's crazy, too. But I must point out that Pops and I own pickup trucks, and those are not fuel-efficient vehicles. Newf I don't know about.

[Newfie]

Nissan Pathfinder, true 4wd SUV on a pickup frame, so I can get to my property. We have 4 properties, one in center city with NO parking, 3 on dirt (on a good day) roads. We’ve always treated our Ford Tarsus wagons as pick up trucks, and they looked it. For us a vehicle is a necessary tool, to haul materials for projects.

Driving up here is crazy. 3 miles to a gallon of milk, 25 to a 2x4, 40 to a town of under 10,000, 130 or so to the airport.

I make ammends by not driving 6 months a year. Except for an occasional cheap rental.

[Pops]

The Beast is just misplaced macho at this point, a beached white elephant.
I've worked at home for many years. I walk 2-4 miles daily but we only drive occasionally, maybe a few miles a week and that's usually in a Hyundai.
I'd recommend Metromile, insurance by the mile, for anyone who doesn't drive much.

[ROCKMAN]

Newfie - I hate to pick on you but you did have choice to not town property in the country. Just as folks who work 30 miles from their office. They may have even had less choice then you if that was the only decent paying job they could find. Like they Rocman didn't.

[Newfie]

Rock,

I was not complaining I was commenting and explaining.

I drive considerabky less now than when I was living in center city Philadelphia and working in the burbs. Sure, For a while I could walk to the office, but I was traveling for work a lot. Up at 5am to catch AMTRAK to DC or NYC. Or fly to Orlando or Chicago.l or Boston. But also drive to various meetings all over the damn place. Like Rochester. Gets old.

And I’ll trade driving 100 miles up here with 10 miles in cc any day. 3 mile trip to Home Depot would take 2 hours minimum.

No doubt we need to get better at planning our shopping trips. It will slow down once I get the basic tools and supplies laid in. And it’s only 6 months a year. And the scenery is stunning.

[Outcast_Searcher]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Newfie', 'I') just posted about this on the LTG thread, as it seems to indicate they have no idea that fossil fuels will eventually become scared, that there are limits.

Yes Pops, this crowd in office are dumb shits.

Now there are two questions....
1- Are American voters stupid enough to believe this?
2- is the Democrat party smart enough to put forward a decent alternative or just another shill?

Put differently...
Will we be given an effective choice?
Will we vote for it?

[Outcast_Searcher]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('ROCKMAN', 'N')ewfie - I hate to pick on you but you did have choice to not town property in the country. Just as folks who work 30 miles from their office. They may have even had less choice then you if that was the only decent paying job they could find. Like they Rocman didn't.

[Outcast_Searcher]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Newfie', '
')No doubt we need to get better at planning our shopping trips. It will slow down once I get the basic tools and supplies laid in. And it’s only 6 months a year. And the scenery is stunning.

[Pops]

People have been commuting from the Central Valley to SF for decades, which is why Stockton was a poster child for the housing bust. "Drive to qualify."

Tele is still increasing, I had thought it was falling after the initial blush

[Outcast_Searcher]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Pops', 'P')eople have been commuting from the Central Valley to SF for decades, which is why Stockton was a poster child for the housing bust. "Drive to qualify."

Tele is still increasing, I had thought it was falling after the initial blush

[Newfie]

The last company I worked for, 40,000 employees, engineering, did lots of things to save money, they were very good at running the business (even if they didn’t understand the business.). One thing they did not do was telecommuting. We had conference calls, which are a real joy when dealing with 5 or 7 different nationalities with different heavy accents. I ran a conference call once, managed to set it up in my laptop. But that was the level of effort.

Even our conference room AV stuff never worked right. Corporate would refuse to send anyone to fix it. Eventually one of our guys would spend a few hours, charged to some job, in order to make it work. The IT guys were in a separate “cost center” and we not about to spend a dime on our office which did t have a local IT guy.

We had execs flying 4 days a week in a regular basis. Sometimes meetings in 3 cities in one day. Just insane. One guy had, I think, over a half million miles in one year. Domestic.

[Pops]

Back in the day I owned a little ad biz with a partner, he was the A/V guy and I was graphics. This was in the 90's and it was like pulling teeth to even get him to set up a little net in the office, eventually he went digital.

But anyway, I told him that one day the company would be "distributed" and we would connect via the web: the video post guy would be in Illinois where he was from, I'd art direct from Colorado, my partner would do radio from Tahoe, the account and media people wherever and the only people still in the area would be the sales reps.

I said we'd still meet all the time but it would be via the net, and since we'd be working from our bedrooms like Brian Wilson we'd be in our PJs — on the occasions we'd "meet" with clients, we'd each slip on our suit-dickeys.

I was right, we are distributed but we're all freelancers now, lol

[dissident]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('ROCKMAN', 'A') "red flag" warning in the Bakken? No, it isn't: it's a condition fully anticipated by anyone knowledgable of oil production operations. This same phenomenon has happened in every newly developed trend of water drive oil reservoirs. Early on most of the wells produce no or very little water. But as a trend continues to be developed wells drilled early on begin producing more water as they deplete. But new wells are producing more oil. But eventually the NUMBER of the older wells (with ever increasing water production) begin exceeding the number of new wells brought on line. And simple arithmetic explains why the total water production in the trend starts exceeding the total oil production. It is inevitable and always has been. And this differential can show a very big jump should the number of new wells deceases significantly. As might happen if oil prices fall and activity decreases.

[ROCKMAN]

d - That's the nature of horizontal wells producing fractured reservoirs: the timelines for all aspects are greatly accelerated. A fact any competent reservoir engineer would have anticipated. Consider my conventional field that began producing in 1946 and then a significant water cut in 1955. But still a few wells still producing economically 70 years later. That's an 80+ year life span. Had hz wells developed it the lifespan would have been closer to 10 to 15 years.