[vtsnowedin]

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Nope

[Sixstrings]

Bernie at a California rally:



This clip is making the rounds on tv news, Bernie is like Moses telling the DNC: "Open the doors, let the People IN."

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', '[')b]Bernie Sanders - Dominguez Hills - Calls Out Democratic Party
https://youtu.be/Q3rEV0BLzLA

[Newfie]

So you are saying a contested nomination?

I don't see how that works to Bernies advantage.

[AgentR11]

Superdelegates will vote Hillary. stop fantasizing some rebirth in democratic enthusiasm.

[Timo]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Newfie', 'S')o you are saying a contested nomination?

I don't see how that works to Bernies advantage.

[Lore]

Everybody knew the rules going in. If you don't want to play the game then don't enter it. Trump was all upset too till he won the presumptive nomination. Now you don't hear a peep about it.

[Sixstrings]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Newfie', 'S')o you are saying a contested nomination?

I don't see how that works to Bernies advantage.

[Sixstrings]

Bernie Sanders says that months ago during the Nevada campaign, shots were fired into his campaign office and also somebody broke in and ransacked an apartment used by his campaign staff:

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'S')anders: ‘Shots Were Fired Into My Campaign Office in Nevada’

“Within the last few days there have been a number of criticisms made against my campaign organization. Party leaders in Nevada, for example, claim that the Sanders campaign has a ‘penchant for violence.’

That is nonsense. Our campaign has held giant rallies all across this country, including in high-crime areas, and there have been zero reports of violence. Our campaign of course believes in non-violent change and it goes without saying that I condemn any and all forms of violence, including the personal harassment of individuals.

But, when we speak of violence, I should add here that months ago, during the Nevada campaign, shots were fired into my campaign office in Nevada and apartment housing complex my campaign staff lived in was broken into and ransacked.

“If the Democratic Party is to be successful in November, it is imperative that all state parties treat our campaign supporters with fairness and the respect that they have earned.
http://www.press24.us/sanders-shots-were-fired-into-my-campaign-office-in-nevada/

[vtsnowedin]

By my count ,as of this morning, Bernie has to win 50 percent of the remaining delegates that are up for grabs ,which he is very likely to do or better ,AND convince 390 of the super delegates to switch sides before the convention. The convention is still a long ways away. Time enough for an indictment to come down about those Emails, Time enough for Trumps campaign to muck rake all of her past scandals and failures. If she is not solidly ahead of Trump in the polls on the eve of the convention watch the rats abandon the sinking Hillary ship.

[Newfie]

Trump polls better against Hillary than against Bernie. Also he can't get exBerners if Bern isn't ex, the f he is the candidate. Will any Hillary supporter vote for Trump over Bernie? Dont think so.

I can't see Trump smearing Hilary badly until after the convention. Then all hell breaks loose.

[vtsnowedin]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Newfie', 'T')rump polls better against Hillary than against Bernie. Also he can't get exBerners if Bern isn't ex, the f he is the candidate. Will any Hillary supporter vote for Trump over Bernie? Dont think so.

I can't see Trump smearing Hilary badly until after the convention. Then all hell breaks loose.

[Newfie]

Perhaps.

[Sixstrings]

Some recent bernie headlines..

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', '[')b]Bernie Sanders' Marriage of Convenience With Democrats Fraying
http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2016-election/bernie-sanders-marriage-convenience-democrats-fraying-n576506

[Sixstrings]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', '[')b]Defiant and determined to transform the Democratic Party, Senator Bernie Sanders is opening a two-month phase of his presidential campaign aimed at inflicting a heavy blow on Hillary Clinton in California and amassing enough leverage to advance his agenda at the convention in July — or even wrest the nomination from her.

Advisers to Mr. Sanders said on Wednesday that he was newly resolved to remain in the race, seeing an aggressive campaign as his only chance to pressure Democrats into making fundamental changes to how presidential primaries and debates are held in the future.
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/05/19/us/politics/bernie-sanderss-campaign-accuses-head-of-dnc-of-favoritism.html

[Subjectivist]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'V')oters supporting Democratic presidential candidate Bernie Sanders have united against a common enemy they’ve deemed more detrimental to their candidate’s success than even rival Hillary Clinton: Democratic National Committee chairwoman and Florida lawmaker Debbie Wasserman Schultz.

For Sanders supporters, Wasserman Schultz represents everything they dislike about their party’s policies. For example, they believe that former Secretary of State Clinton’s victories are attributable to the exclusion of independent voters and the “rigged” policy of superdelegates.

Back in February, Schultz told CNN host Jake Tapper, “Unpledged delegates exist, really, to make sure that party leaders and elected officials don’t have to be in a position where they are running against grassroots activists.”

[Sixstrings]

She ought to step down, she's been upopular for a while now. And she had problems with tulsi gabbard and that whole thing, saying "maybe you shouldn't come to the debate." Wasserman schultz isn't an effective party chairperson.

[vtsnowedin]

I've been watching the media beat on Berni this weekend for carrying on the fight and hindering Hillary's fight against Rrump.They really don't have a valid argument considering how long Hillary stayed in the race in 2012 but that hasn't stopped them from carrying on like Bernie is the antichrist.
But they should consider that although Bernie at 72 will not be around for another election cycle (at least not as a viable contestant) the ten million voters that have voted for him and his positions will be. That is 10 million to Hillary's 13 million and ignores several million independents that can't vote in closed primaries.
The party needs to listen to the positions of those ten million and invite in those independents or they will find themselves in as much disarray as the GOP.
The super delegate rules have been exposed as rigging the system in favor of the oligarchs of the party that disenfranchise rank and file voters more effectively then GOP voter ID laws as they let people vote but then make that vote not count for anything.

[Sixstrings]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('vtsnowedin', 'T')hey really don't have a valid argument considering how long Hillary stayed in the race in 2012 but that hasn't stopped them from carrying on like Bernie is the antichrist.

[vtsnowedin]

Well unless the voters in California go for Berni in a very big way we will be looking at Hillary vs. Rrump and not much else will matter until after the election. If she wins they will try to push Bernie and his voters off into history but if she loses they will have a "where did we go wrong ?" moment that will be interesting to watch. Perhaps then they will have the debates about how to actually achieve what Bernie proposes and how to pay for it. As that progresses I'll be looking to see who comes forward as a leader on that side of the party as Bernie will have to pass the torch to a new generation sooner then he'd like. At the moment I can't think of anyone that would be on his short list for second in command.

[Newfie]

My gut feel is Trump has a much better chance against Clinton than Bernie. IMHO there is something about Hillary that wears on you, gets on your nerves. The more we hear her, or see her the less attractive she is.

Also, as bad as Trump is, he is a vote against the establishment and excites passion. I can see a lot of Bernie supporters either not voting or swinging to Trump.