[Plantagenet]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Shar_Lamagne', '[')
Is it any wonder Palin scrubbed her site immediately following the shooting?

[PrestonSturges]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Shar_Lamagne', '[')url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2tTDiZZYCAs]Giffords' own words to Palin[/url]
Is it any wonder Palin scrubbed her site immediately following the shooting?

[eastbay]

It's tough to find good in all this, but it's refreshing to see a general toning down of the violent rhetoric.

[PrestonSturges]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('eastbay', 'I')t's tough to find good in all this, but it's refreshing to see a general toning down of the violent rhetoric.

[felmetk]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Mesuge', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('felmetk', 'r')estore sanity!

[mos6507]

What I'm seeing the right wing do in response to this is merely reframe the debate not in terms of compassion for the fallen, but to perpetuate the persecution complex that the media and the libs want to crucify them over this. Who cares that people died and the congresswoman is in critical condition when the libs are attacking Sarah Palin??

Circle the wagons!!!

The irony is that it's this constant portrayal of conservatism being under siege by 'the enemy' that is the problem. The tone of the debate is always one intended to illicit the "fight or flight" response in people. It's the existential fear of "them" or "they". The right wing simply can not let go of this technique. It's embedded in their DNA. It's what sells.

[Fishman]

Sorry Mos. The liberal spin that started mere minutes after the killings has failed. The people didn't buy it as the recent polls showed. The backlash against the left smear will be impressive. Palin will come out ahead, Sheriff Dumba** has been seen as a fool. Watch the left crawl back in their hole They've lost their battle of ideas with their failed president, their failed speaker of the house, and this failed spin on a lunatic killing people. By the way, love your rants, I think they are getting more "vitriolic" as the calls for less vitriolic speech comes from the left.

[Fishman]

Oh by the way, the same left that pleaded "don't blame the muslims" immediately after the Ft Hood killing as the guy screams 'Allah Akbar" while shooting people. Gotta love the hypocrisy.

[PrestonSturges]

When the crazy guy took hostages at the Discovery Channel last year because he felt they weren't being "green" enough, we did not rush to blame liberals because liberals weren't telling people "Hey take guns to the Discovery Channel."

In this case, we have had the Tea Party and similar groups saying "Take guns to political events," even though people said that was stupid, dangerous, and served no purpose.

Even if the AZ shooter had no affiliation with the Tea Party, the Tea Party were the ones saying bring guns to political events, so yes they are going to get blamed.

Unfortunately, when people in the Tea Party are told over and over that they are crazy obnoxious dangerous idiots, they just take this as proof that they are clever. If they had not been using campaign events as gun rallies (despite being called crazy obnoxious dangerous idiots), they would not be getting heat now.

[Ludi]

Texas Tea Party wants more 2nd amendment protections!

"Welcome to Texas Tea Party Patriots

If we can get back to the system of limited government our forefathers created then there would be no need for secession.

Having an Austin Tea Party

Let's be happy to participate ...
Texas’ biennial legislative session starts in Austin starts on January 11, 2011 (that’s 1.11.11 for you scoring at home). No matter who the speaker is, we think that there are a number of legislative items that should be a priority for the coming term:

(1) fair and deep budget cuts
(2) reasonable redistricting
(3) a strong voter ID measure
(4) a health care freedom act
(5) more 2nd amendment protection
(6) some better immigration restrictions and
(7) a general enhancement of state and personal rights against federal intrusion"

http://www.texasteapartypatriots.org/

Not sure what more protections we need for gun ownership in Texas, but I guess some people feel they do not have enough guns or something!

[PrestonSturges]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Ludi', 'N')ot sure what more protections we need for gun ownership in Texas, but I guess some people feel they do not have enough guns or something!

[Ludi]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('PrestonSturges', '
')The right to shoot Mexicans between the front door and the street?

[PrestonSturges]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Ludi', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('PrestonSturges', '
')The right to shoot Mexicans between the front door and the street?

[mos6507]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('PrestonSturges', 'W')hen the crazy guy took hostages at the Discovery Channel last year because he felt they weren't being "green" enough, we did not rush to blame liberals because liberals weren't telling people "Hey take guns to the Discovery Channel."

[Ludi]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('mos6507', ' ')ideologically they are spinning in the same general orbit as far as the common demographic that look to these people for inspiration.

[Expatriot]

This thread is pathetic. Reading the trivial right-wing/left-wing bickering is like watching Gilligan and the Skipper argue about why they got stranded. This thread is an example of why PO.com is not even a fart of its previous incarnation. Now it's just a group of 4-7 hard core liberals who use events like this to attack Palin and a handful of right wingers who play their foils. It's the same old crap in every thread, with no new information, no new insights, and no personal development.

There is no tragedy here, other than the young girl's death and the fact that this guy was insane and had no agenda. It's a tragedy that this guy was simply insane. Joe Stack, on the other hand, while I disagree with his violence, was a harbinger of America future.

This woman who was shot was a cog in the machine that is running this country off a cliff - she voted for extending the wars of occupation and she voted for corporate/banker bailouts. While I reject the manner of her death and I reject all violence that is not in defense of self, I am not saddened at all by this murder. Her voting record clearly shows that she, just like most members of Congress, is a Corporate whore who is actively participating in the immolation of America. To boot, she is a Zionist and an Israeli-firster. The world is better off without her.

Finally, she is pro-abortion, and, as a person who supports the murder of babies, it is fitting end for her.

[PrestonSturges]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Expatriot', 'T')his thread is pathetic. Reading the trivial right-wing/left-wing bickering is like watching Gilligan and the Skipper argue about why they got stranded. This thread is an example of why PO.com is not even a fart of its previous incarnation. Now it's just a group of 4-7 hard core liberals who use events like this to attack Palin.

[Shar_Lamagne]

A liberal Democratic Congresswoman is gunned down by a right-wing extremist with views just like yours, and somehow YOU are the victim here.

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('expatriot', 'T')o boot, she is a Zionist and an Israeli-firster. The world is better off without her. Finally, she is pro-abortion, and, as a person who supports the murder of babies, it is fitting end for her.

[vision-master]

Just more right-wing beat down, eh ex?

I for one am getting sick and tired of the right-wing take over of Internet forums.

[rangerone314]

I have an idea. On the day Tom Delay runs out of appeals and goes to prison, put him in the same cell as that Loughner guy.

Be the longest 3 years of Delay's life (assuming he survives).

Its a shame Loughner only got knocked to the ground by that ex-marine. If I was there after seeing that 9-yr old girl get shot, you probably would have heard a snap (his neck breaking) and saving taxpayers an expensive trial.

Both parties have idiots, among the Democrats be Barnie Freak and Rangel, among the Republicans people like Bachmann and Palin.

I won't weep if Palin is out showboating in Alaska and gets trampled by a moose; then we get to see if a moose knows how to dress down a moron.