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Re: Muslim world protesting over youtube vid, embassies atta

Unread postby SeaGypsy » Fri 14 Sep 2012, 22:06:14

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Re: Muslim world protesting over youtube vid, embassies atta

Unread postby Rod_Cloutier » Fri 14 Sep 2012, 22:27:31

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'I') gave the title. I think we should draw the line about there, rather than a linky. Sure you can find it.


Nope, can't find it. I did a youtube search and it came up with 17,206 relevent videos. (From what I've seen of the newscasts its hate literature, so I'm not missing much)

Conversely, the youtube video has likely been banned already?
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Re: Muslim world protesting over youtube vid, embassies atta

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Re: Muslim world protesting over youtube vid, embassies atta

Unread postby Rod_Cloutier » Fri 14 Sep 2012, 23:05:25

That stupid film made by people with the intellect of pre-teens; is causing riots, embassies to be burned down and real people to be killed?

The movie 'The Attack of the killer tomatoes' was a better film than the link shown above. No one in their right mind could take this seriously. Its absurd.
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Re: Muslim world protesting over youtube vid, embassies atta

Unread postby SeaGypsy » Sat 15 Sep 2012, 00:43:38

Has to be one of the worst movies ever made. A must see cult classic?
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Re: Muslim world protesting over youtube vid, embassies atta

Unread postby Keith_McClary » Sat 15 Sep 2012, 01:24:46

I wonder if Romney would be defending it as "free speech" if it was anti-Christian, anti-Jewish or anti-Mormon?
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Re: Muslim world protesting over youtube vid, embassies atta

Unread postby Oneaboveall » Sat 15 Sep 2012, 02:28:03

Interesting Op/Ed article written in a Pakistani newspaper offers some food for thought: http://www.pakistantoday.com.pk/2012/09 ... an-thou-2/

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Keith_McClary', 'I') wonder if Romney would be defending it as "free speech" if it was anti-Christian, anti-Jewish or anti-Mormon?


He would probably react the way that people in Louisiana did when they found out that Jindal's voucher program could be used for Musilm schools.
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Re: Muslim world protesting over youtube vid, embassies atta

Unread postby bochen280 » Sat 15 Sep 2012, 03:05:51

Romney, Obama, what difference? Why do sheeple on a peak oil forum still believe the POTUS has any real power?
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Re: Muslim world protesting over youtube vid, embassies atta

Unread postby SeaGypsy » Sat 15 Sep 2012, 03:26:43

Welcome to one of the great controversies.
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Re: Muslim world protesting over youtube vid, embassies atta

Unread postby Arthur75 » Sat 15 Sep 2012, 03:31:39

This thing is a catalyst, meanwhile even on this forum, I'm sure almost everyone believes that the label "first oil shock=Arab embargo" is a correct historical label, right ?
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Re: Muslim world protesting over youtube vid, embassies atta

Unread postby Rod_Cloutier » Sat 15 Sep 2012, 08:19:27

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'I')n interviews with the AP and the Wall Street Journal, a man calling himself "Sam Bacile" said he had raised about $5m to produce the film. He also was quoted describing Islam as "a cancer", and claimed he had raised money from "about 100 Jewish donors" to make the video.

The interview subject did not give the same age during his two known press interviews. He told the AP he was 56.

The man said the amateur, two-hour-long film had involved dozens of actors and was produced in California in 2011. New reports found no prior social media presence by the director or any International Movie Database page for the film.

In 2010, he pleaded no contest to charges of bank fraud in California. He was sentenced to 21 months in prison and ordered to pay more than $790,000 in restitution.

The director of the California Film Commission, which issues permits for films that are shot in the state, told the Huffington Post that no permit was ever granted to anyone by the name "Sam Bacile".

Actors who participated in the filming have emerged to say they had no idea the film was even about Muhammad or Islam. The original casting call was reportedly for a film called "Desert Warrior" by director Alan Roberts.

Reports indicate that all the film's religious references were actually dubbed after the original shooting.


The film maker is a fraud and an idiot; no one should be rioting over this film.

http://www.aljazeera.com/indepth/featur ... 70525.html
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Re: Muslim world protesting over youtube vid, embassies atta

Unread postby Plantagenet » Sat 15 Sep 2012, 10:54:40

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Repent', ' ')no one should be rioting over this film.


Muslims believe it is evil to depict Mohammad PBUH in any way. It is even more evil in their eyes to say bad things about Mohammad PBUH. This belief is a central part of their religion.

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P.S. They are very touchy about this.
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Re: Muslim world protesting over youtube vid, embassies atta

Unread postby careinke » Sat 15 Sep 2012, 11:33:34

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Keith_McClary', 'I') wonder if Romney would be defending it as "free speech" if it was anti-Christian, anti-Jewish or anti-Mormon?


I wonder if Obama would have sent his FBI goons to apprehend the film maker if he had made an anti Jesus film?

http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2012/09/15/13876716-suspected-anti-islam-filmmaker-questioned-by-federal-probation-officers?lite
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Re: Muslim world protesting over youtube vid, embassies atta

Unread postby PrestonSturges » Sat 15 Sep 2012, 18:14:18

From TheOnion
http://www.theonion.com/articles/no-one ... /?ref=auto
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')The image of the Hebrew prophet Moses high-fiving Jesus Christ as both are having their erect penises vigorously masturbated by Ganesha, all while the Hindu deity anally penetrates Buddha with his fist, reportedly went online at 6:45 p.m. EDT, after which not a single bomb threat was made against the organization responsible, nor did the person who created the cartoon go home fearing for his life in any way.
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Re: Muslim world protesting over youtube vid, embassies atta

Unread postby PrestonSturges » Sat 15 Sep 2012, 18:17:52

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('careinke', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Keith_McClary', 'I') wonder if Romney would be defending it as "free speech" if it was anti-Christian, anti-Jewish or anti-Mormon?

I wonder if Obama would have sent his FBI goons to apprehend the film maker if he had made an anti Jesus film?

I wonder if 'Murikan white supremacists will demand that Israel accept American Holocaust denial videos even though Holocaust denial is illegal in Israel.
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Re: Muslim world protesting over youtube vid, embassies atta

Unread postby PrestonSturges » Sat 15 Sep 2012, 18:30:40

Embassy attacks under George Bush

2002: US Embassy in Karachi, Pakistan, attacked. 51 dead.

2004: US Embassy (and Israeli Embassy) in Uzbekistan bombed. 2 dead, nine injured.

2004: US Embassy in Saudi Arabia bombed and stormed by armed men. at least 8 people killed.

2006: US Embassy in Syria attacked by armed men. 1 killed.

2007: US Embassy in Greece was hit with a grenade. Fortunately, the building was empty at the time.

2008: US Embassy in Serbia is set on fire. Tens of thousands of protestors at the gates. The flag is torn down.

2008: US Embassy in Yemen hit by two car bombs. Ten killed (and six homicide bombers also killed).
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Re: Muslim world protesting over youtube vid, embassies atta

Unread postby PrestonSturges » Sat 15 Sep 2012, 18:30:59

Embassy attacks and fatalities under Ronald Reagan

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terrorist_ ... facilities

18 April 1983 Beirut Islamic Jihad car bomb destroys Embassy (see April 1983 U.S. Embassy bombing) 63
12 December 1983 Kuwait City al-Dawa truck bomb outside Embassy 6
20 September 1984 Beirut Hezbollah truck bomb outside Embassy 24
November 1984 Bogotá Car bomb outside Embassy planted by drug cartel 1
February 1986 Lisbon Popular Forces of 25 April car bomb outside Embassy none
14 May 1986 Jakarta Japanese Red Army mortar barrage none
9 June 1987 Rome Japanese Red Army mortar barrage none
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Re: Muslim world protesting over youtube vid, embassies atta

Unread postby SeaGypsy » Sat 15 Sep 2012, 18:34:17

According to the rioters, western countries must implement a Chinese style internet filter system and use it to ban such filth. Meanwhile the forced marriage of young girls to old men continues un-abated, the stoning/ jailing of converts away from Islam is still law in most Islamic countries and strangely there are no mass protests to ban porn from the net.
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Re: Muslim world protesting over youtube vid, embassies atta

Unread postby Fiddlerdave » Sat 15 Sep 2012, 18:38:55

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Repent', 'T')hat stupid film made by people with the intellect of pre-teens; is causing riots, embassies to be burned down and real people to be killed?

The movie 'The Attack of the killer tomatoes' was a better film than the link shown above. No one in their right mind could take this seriously. Its absurd.
History is no stranger to the idea of terrorist and activist groups leveraging their desired provocation for violence on religious fervor!

Mark Twain wrote about one instance! It would be a good time to read or re-read "To the Person Sitting in Darkness", a massive killing frenzy caused by a small incident.

The extremist Muslim terrorists are DESPERATE to provoke ANOTHER massive overreaction by the West to Islam like the invasion of Iraq and Muslim slander stemming from the 911 attack.

The West behaving like madmen will allow the Islamists to solidify their governmental gains in the new Arab Spring governments, and allow them to repress the moderate factions.

The Right Wing in the USA if following the terrorists' script like trained dogs, as usual.
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Re: Muslim world protesting over youtube vid, embassies atta

Unread postby Plantagenet » Sat 15 Sep 2012, 20:56:04

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Fiddlerdave', '
')The West behaving like madmen will allow the Islamists to solidify their governmental gains in the new Arab Spring governments, and allow them to repress the moderate factions.


(1) Actually it is the Islamicist Muslims who are acting like madmen.

(2) The "Arab Spring" goverments ARE largely Islamicists. The Muslim Brotherhood in Egypty and other Islamicists are quite capable of repressing moderate factions all by themselves. :roll:
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