[Dezakin]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('gnm', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Dezakin', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('gnm', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Dezakin', 'O')bserved declines in production are often at flat pricing, where its just cheaper to pump somewhere else than to spend money on infrastructure for enhanced recovery.

[SDC]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Ludi', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Dezakin', '
')We need 20,000 1GW reactors to replace all fossil fuels, we will get the capacity. It will be easier if we do it now rather than later.

[Dezakin]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('pstarr', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('deserkin', 'G')rowth can continue until we peak total avaliable resources, and where the disagreement comes from is what our total avaliable resources are. 1 trillion tons of uranium goes a long way.

[NEOPO]

500 billion $ later we have Iraq and afghanistan yay.

We could also build sustainably and reverse decades of unsustainable practices and not need 20,000 nuclear reactors.....should we even break down how unsustainable nuclear reactors really are or shall we assume fuel is the only limitation here?

Seems TPTB have their own plan and do not like either of our solutions.

[Ludi]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Niagara', '
')Why is that so hard to understand?

[dinopello]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Ludi', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Niagara', '
')Why is that so hard to understand?

[Ludi]

You're the man, pstarr!

I'd love to hire you to do bronze castings of some of my sculptures, but I can only pay in chickens...

[rogerhb]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Niagara', '-')think of the millions of commuters who drive back and forth to useless jobs.

[Dezakin]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('pstarr', 'I') am leaving for my bronze casting class right now already took blacksmithing and welding.

[MonteQuest]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Draco', ' ')the Bush admin has manipulated oil for the fall elections ...

[MonteQuest]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Dezakin', 'I') expect we'll be able to provide for 15 billion, sure.

[Last_Laff]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('MonteQuest', '
')Lurkers...Here is where this guy's head is at:

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Dezakin', 'I')t means that I feel that its preferable to wipe out all wildlife on earth and construct a vast banal civilization of glass and steel (with whatever actually is biologically necissary to support humanity, crops) in the quest for growth than to stagnate, where it seems many others are rather horrified at the concept of such a world without natural places, if they get beyond believing such an artificial world is impossible.

[MonteQuest]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Dezakin', 'B')ut where will you find any claims that growth can continue forever in an infinite environment. Stop perpetuating strawman claims.

[MonteQuest]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Niagara', ' ')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Ludi', ' ')I agree. That's why I'm asking "what will people do for a living?" I'd like to see some other people address this when they say we can "mitigate peak oil by doing away with all the useless industries." What do they propose to replace them?

[MonteQuest]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('pstarr', ' ')This says man is better than, more deserving, and superior to other life forms, including those that take care of him. The biological systems that make dirt soil, gases atmosphere, and water clean are not important.

[NeoPeasant]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('MonteQuest', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('pstarr', ' ')This says man is better than, more deserving, and superior to other life forms, including those that take care of him. The biological systems that make dirt soil, gases atmosphere, and water clean are not important.