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A: The house is on fire!
B: You sound so shrill. Can’t you say something witty or insightful?
A: How about this: The house is on fire!
C: We’re never going to be able to do anything about the house until we defeat capitalism first.
A: But the house is on fire NOW! If we don’t do something right away, we’ll all die!
D: You liberals are always saying the house is on fire. Fire is what makes our house economy work. Putting out the fire would be bad for business, and business creates jobs. Just simmer down.
A: But it’s really true! Can’t you feel the heat?
E: The world is so unfair. Underprivileged people are always the first ones to feel the heat. We should devote all our efforts to overcoming prejudice and inequality. That’s the most important thing.
A: But can’t we do that WHILE we do something about the fire?
F: You’re just scaring everyone. I’ve lived in this house all my life and we’ve had problems, but we always overcame them. The most important thing is to have an optimistic attitude.
A: Ack! I’d leave, but so many people are blocking the door. We’re all in this together, and the house is on fire! Can’t somebody do something?
G: It’s really tiring to hear you bleat on about fire. Nobody’s going to listen to you until you find fire solutions that offer everyone tangible benefits in their lives—more jobs, a stronger economy, higher corporate profits, better national security. It’s your negative framing that’s the problem.
A: No, the problem is that the house is on fire! Maybe there’s a window I could get to, if only there weren’t so many people in here. Seems like it’s getting more crowded all the time.
H: Have you seen Engorged? It’s the new streaming channel with 200 billion hours of entertainment—movies, music, sports—that lets you peer through other people’s devices to watch them watching whatever you’re watching. It’s so cool!
A: I think there’s a window over there… but I’m getting awfully hot. And it’s so crowded I can’t move.
* * *
Life in the early phases of civilizational collapse is filled with absurdities that beg for artful satire. Where is Franz Kafka when we need him? Surely, he could offer a better metaphor than my hackneyed image of a house fire. But maybe it will do for now.
Of course, fire in this scenario is a stand-in for climate change—and actually for much more as well, as I’ll discuss in a moment. First let’s unpack the more obvious meanings.
My recent co-author (and go-to energy guru) David Fridley reminded me the other day that nearly everything we use represents a little fire somewhere—usually several of them. Your smart phone? Little fires drove the machines that extracted the raw minerals. Bigger fires smelted the metals. Little fires fueled the vehicles that transported all the parts, sometimes for thousands of miles. More little fires heated, cooled, and powered the various warehouses and assembly plants involved. Pick any object: unless it’s a tree or other feature of the natural environment, a fire is implicated. The same is typically true for services—keeping us warm, cool, and provisioned with food, health care, and education. We even need fires to make solar panels and wind turbines (for example: 3,000-degree-Fahrenheit furnace fires that run 24/7 are used to make pure silicon wafers for photovoltaic panels). Granted, over its lifetime a PV panel will entail less fire than a coal or natural gas power plant producing the same amount of electricity. But if we wanted to make a hell of a lot of PV panels right away in order to replace all our coal or gas power plants, enormous short-term fires would have to be stoked.
The bind we’re in is this: it is the economy—made up of all those billions of fires—that is causing climate change. Reconfiguring the economy so that it doesn’t cause climate change is currently almost completely a matter of theory, and, even if it is practically possible, represents a job of unprecedented scope and scale that would require nearly unheard-of political solidarity and almost incalculably massive investment and sacrifice (those “affordable energy transition” studies notwithstanding).
Meanwhile, most people are directly dependent on the economy for their survival. Thus, economic contraction or collapse (resulting either from climate change, or from efforts to avert climate change by radically reducing energy use, or from depletion of resources like oil, or even from some entirely foreseeable socioeconomic calamity like a massive debt default or terminal political dysfunction caused by increasing levels of inequality) would itself be traumatic. And for many people (certainly not all!), economic trauma might come sooner and be more direct and devastating than trauma from rising seas, droughts, floods, wildfires, and the other anticipated consequences of global warming.
So, of course, most people are cautious. They hesitate to go along with bold climate “solutions”—which might only somewhat blunt the climate crisis even if they were fully implemented—even though, by not taking climate action, they are further ensuring economic collapse by a different route. Although the house is on fire, very few people are willing to contemplate the kinds of bold programs that would be needed to douse the deadly conflagration. And meanwhile there are so many distractions to amuse, confound, and enrage us!—including political intrigue, seductive new technologies, and entertainment options up the wazoo.
This is the very definition of a wicked problem. I wish I had a nice solution.
As mentioned above, the problem extends beyond climate change. These days one should be just as concerned about vanishing biodiversity—the latest, and in some respects most worrisome symptom of which is the “insect apocalypse.” A recent series of studies informs us that insect populations that have been studied are losing about 2.4 percent of total biomass annually, with about 40 percent of all insects already gone. A paper by Sanchez-Bayo and Wyckhuys concludes that climate change is only one of four major causes—which also (and more critically) include habitat loss due to expansion of industrial agriculture, pollution from synthetic pesticides and fertilizers, and biological factors such as pathogens and introduced species. If the insects go, we all go, eventually—as a result of ecological, economic, and ultimately social impacts and feedbacks.
Then there’s the deoxygenation of the oceans; the buildup of synthetic chemical pollution (partly from the breakdown of plastics) in the tissues of animals, including humans; phosphorus depletion; deforestation; and still the list goes on.
Under the circumstances, anyone who is even dimly conscious should be yelling, “The house is on fire!” And more people are doing so all the time. The latest example is the “extinction rebellion,” an international social movement that aims to use nonviolent protest to drive radical change, with the goal of averting climate change and further students are striking school for climate action—ditching classes and attending climate change demonstrations instead. After all, why sit obediently in rows to learn how to live in a civilization that’s doomed?
So, what are we who are yelling “fire” trying to persuade everyone else to do? Some activists say we need to get rid of capitalism, but that effort has been under way since the mid-19th century and shows little sign of progress. Others say we need to create plans for ending climate change that would also simultaneously create jobs, more social equity, and corporate profits. Such plans are relatively easy to reverse engineer: start with the happy ending, then work backward. But all the ones that I’ve seen so far rely on major inputs of pixie dust and magic in order to achieve their goals.
The only sure solution is to start putting out fires—which, in terms of our metaphor, would mean shrinking the economy. That further translates to reducing the number of people on the planet (gradually—no genocide!) as well as the per capita rate of consumption (efforts along these lines would concentrate on the high-consuming countries). Our goal would be a sustainable and equitable level of consumption for all. But the constituency for doing that is tiny. And doing it without unleashing utter economic bedlam would require rethinking everything about how the economy currently works.
We at Post Carbon Institute have settled on the strategy of helping build community resilience in the face of impending civilizational collapse. I have colleagues outside of PCI who say that national and global action is essential to avert the worst; they still hope to convince the plutocrats and bureaucrats of the world to stage some spectacular intervention. But if the latter effort doesn’t work, then grassroots community resilience building truly is the last, best fallback strategy. Theoretically, if done well (using permaculture principles), it could aid with reforestation and biodiversity protection. But at this late date there can be no guarantees.
All we know for sure is that the house is on fire.
Our modern industrial economy traces a straight line from resource extraction to manufacturing to sales to waste disposal. Since Earth has finite resources and limited ability to absorb pollution, the straight-line economy is unsustainable; it is designed for eventual failure.
Why not make the economy circular, with waste from one process feeding into other production processes, thus dramatically reducing the need both for resource extraction and for the dumping of rubbish? We should mimic nature: it’s a central ideal of the ecology movement, with roots in indigenous wisdom worldwide. Doing so requires that we reduce, reuse, repair, and recycle—and replace nonrenewable resources with renewables wherever possible.
The circular economy is needed now more than ever. America alone currently produces almost 235 million tonnes of waste per year from homes and businesses, which works out to almost 4 kilograms per person per day. But that’s only 3 percent of all the solid waste in the US economy; the other 97 percent is generated by agricultural and industrial (e.g., mining and manufacturing) processes. If the total US waste stream (including wastewater) is allotted on a per capita basis, each American is responsible for 1.8 million kilograms of waste per year.
Only about a third of waste from homes and businesses is recycled; the rate for industrial waste is much lower, with only 2 percent of the total waste stream currently being recycled. Meanwhile, the 2,000 active landfills in the US that hold the bulk of household trash are reaching their capacity. The US is among the highest waste-producing nations of the world on a per-capita basis, and the federal government has no strategy for dealing with the problem.
Americans should recycle more. Doing so would reduce pollution, slow climate change, and mitigate resource depletion and habitat destruction from mining and logging. But, sadly, the recycling industry faces problems. Prices for scrap metals and paper have declined in recent years (though Trump’s trade war has helped domestic scrap metal prices recover somewhat), and China is no longer interested in accepting metal and plastic waste from the US.
The bigger, systemic challenge is that collecting waste in tiny, mixed amounts; transporting it to a handling facility; sorting it; cleaning it; repackaging it; and then transporting it again almost always costs more and requires more energy than just discarding the stuff into a local landfill.
Waste is what economists call an externality: it’s never an intended, and often not a priced component of the production process, though it does inevitably impose costs—which are often borne by society as a whole. Manufacturers’ mandate is to produce more, and this translates to the strategy of planned obsolescence—making products that are meant to be replaced quickly rather than being endlessly reused and repaired.
What’s needed to circularize the economy? Two things.
First, an overall systemic commitment to the project. That means buy-in from industry, government, and citizens. Make things in such a way that recycling is easier. Focus on extending producer responsibility. Automobile manufacturers, for example, already use a wide range of recycled materials in their products, and like to take credit for doing so. But making the auto industry truly circular will require participation throughout the entire supply chain, support from government via incentives and regulation, and consumer education. Other industries, such as consumer electronics, lag far behind the auto makers, so there is truly an enormous task ahead.
But the other thing we need to do will be an even bigger challenge: we need to ditch the growth imperative. As long as profit maximization and overall growth are the implicit goals of the economy, recycling will remain a boutique industry driven largely by relatively rich people who can afford to assuage their ecological consciences.
If we are to have a truly ecological materials flow, we must start with Natural Step principles. No using renewable resources at faster than replenishment. No drawing down nonrenewable resources. No polluting ecosystems with products or byproducts of industrial processes.
A truly circular economy will be one in which all industrial processes are harmless to people and nature. That means that all “growth” will have to occur in the cultural sphere rather than in flows of materials and energy. We must focus on human happiness rather than GDP; on rates of participation in education and the arts rather than quarterly sales figures.
Currently, we are far from having a circular economy, and that gap is embodied in overflowing landfills and giant barges of trash with nowhere to go—as well as a plastic gyre the size of Texas in the Pacific Ocean. Will the monuments to our civilization consist of mountains of refuse? We can certainly do far better, but that will require us to make a systemic commitment to building a circular, steady-state economy whose aim is beauty and happiness rather than growth for growth’s sake.
172 Comments on "Richard Heinberg: The House is on Fire"
Sissyfuss on Sat, 23rd Mar 2019 9:40 am
” Of course there is a dark side to us. We kill wantonly, don’t we? We burn people in the name of God. We destroy ourselves; we obliterate life on this planet; we destroy the Earth. And then we dress in robes and the Lord speaks directly to us. And what does the Lord tell us? He says that we should be good boys or he is going to punish us. The Lord has been threatening us for centuries and it doesn’t make any difference. Not because we are evil, but because we are dumb. Man has a dark side, yes, and it’s called stupidity.”
Don Juan Matus
pointer on Sat, 23rd Mar 2019 10:22 am
Ah, Sissyfuss, now we are onto something. There *is* a dark side to us. I disagree, however, with DJM. It would see that the dark side is not stupidity, but rather arrogance and pride. Well, perhaps it is stupid to be arrogant and prideful.
Davy on Sat, 23rd Mar 2019 10:31 am
So now what do you assume I am? says Pointer
A hypocrite of the vilest kind.
Pointless on Sat, 23rd Mar 2019 10:35 am
Pointless,
You should know stupidity, pride, and arrogance better than most.
This is plainly obvious.
Not Davy on Sat, 23rd Mar 2019 11:08 am
Davy on Sat, 23rd Mar 2019 10:31 am
pointer on Sat, 23rd Mar 2019 11:12 am
Davy on Sat, 23rd Mar 2019 10:31 am
Pointless on Sat, 23rd Mar 2019 10:35 am
Not sure what caused such offense…
Impostors, it seems…
You will be found out eventually.
Davy on Sat, 23rd Mar 2019 11:28 am
Pointer that was JuanP identity theft activity combine with his newest sock puppet pointless.
onlooker on Sat, 23rd Mar 2019 12:00 pm
The fucking house has been burning for quite some time. It is almost ashes and coal now
Davy on Sat, 23rd Mar 2019 12:50 pm
JuanP may be everyone and everywhere, but he cannot hide from me. I will continue to neuter his dirty immigrant noise, now matter what he calls himself, and all the way back to Mexico if that is what it takes.
PointlessJuanPdirtysock, I got you now.
I AM THE MOB on Sat, 23rd Mar 2019 1:13 pm
Davy
You are a dumbshit..And notice al preppers are? Because when society collapses..You will have to hit the road and forage along the way..If you stay put other foragers will kill and steal what you have..And even if you can hold off the attackers (not likely)..You will eventually run out of clean water and food..So you will have to hit the road and forage..It will be just like the boak ‘the road’..And there will be cannibals everywhere..And they will eat your hick ass and rape your wife because nobody can stop them..
Get a brain Moran!
I AM THE MOB on Sat, 23rd Mar 2019 1:19 pm
‘War is declared’: ‘Yellow vests’ plan protests in nine French cities and a blockade of ports
https://www.thelocal.fr/20190322/qa-french-yellow-vests-gear-up-for-war-at-protests-this-saturday
Not Davy on Sat, 23rd Mar 2019 1:49 pm
Davy on Sat, 23rd Mar 2019 12:50 pm
Davy on Sat, 23rd Mar 2019 2:02 pm
“Because when society collapses..You will have to hit the road and forage along the way.”
You have not figured out that there are multiple ways for society to collapse both quick and long term. This is also location based. City, states, and nations might fail at different speeds and different degrees. MOB, for being so into collapse you don’t know shit about the details. For you collapse is an anarchist rapture event the absolutely will happen. In your sick mind mad max evil will be lurking everywhere and you will realize your dreams of rape and killing. Personally I doubt you have the balls for that kind of messy business IOW you are a big talker. I am not saying hard collapse cannot happen what I am saying it is not the only possibility. You screwed up betting your whole life on an anarchist rapture. If it doesn’t come you are back to square one trying to build a life back up..
Cloggie on Sat, 23rd Mar 2019 2:11 pm
”War is declared’: ‘Yellow vests’ plan protests in nine French cities and a blockade of ports
The white deplorable revolution is in full swing in France. The end of empire is neigh.
I AM THE MOB on Sat, 23rd Mar 2019 2:12 pm
When we are down to fracturing rocks and drilling tens of thousands of horizontal wells that produce tiny streams of oil that decline by 70% in just three years we should instinctively know that we are reaching the bottom of the proverbial barrel, literally. Amazing how most people think just the opposite.
Davy on Sat, 23rd Mar 2019 2:14 pm
“The end of empire is neigh.”
PBM fantasy empire that is
I AM THE MOB on Sat, 23rd Mar 2019 2:16 pm
Steve King Has Water Thrown At Him While Dining In Iowa
https://www.newsweek.com/steve-king-has-water-thrown-him-while-dining-iowa-1372963
Not Davy on Sat, 23rd Mar 2019 2:47 pm
Not Davy on Sat, 23rd Mar 2019 1:49 pm
Cloggie on Sat, 23rd Mar 2019 3:17 pm
“PBM fantasy empire that is”
http://www.spiegel.de/politik/ausland/italien-schliesst-sich-chinas-seidenstrasse-initiative-an-a-1259365.html
“Italien schließt sich Chinas Seidenstraße-Initiative an”
Populist-run and Putinfan Italy has joined the New Silk Road project. Greece, Poland and Hungary are already joining.
The US are not amused.
I AM THE MOB on Sat, 23rd Mar 2019 3:36 pm
There are too many “ifs” for the future: If people are smarter, if there is no war, if we make a technological advancement. We are now already at the point where we cannot cope with our problems, how we should do it in 50 years, when they are bigger?
-Dennis Meadows
I AM THE MOB on Sat, 23rd Mar 2019 3:40 pm
CLogg
80 percent of the countries in China’s silk road are in junk status..Even there next door neighbor India refused to join due to outrageous debt levels..
Italy is only a few years away from being another Greece ie bankrupt..
And China and Europe are going to collapse when the oil shortage hits anyway..
You can wish upon a star all you want but it wont stop the oil crisis..
I AM THE MOB on Sat, 23rd Mar 2019 3:58 pm
Clogg is so far behind in the race he thinks he is leading..
LOL
Cloggie on Sat, 23rd Mar 2019 4:02 pm
“You can wish upon a star all you want but it wont stop the oil crisis..”
UCG, renewable energy, entire planet to frack, demand destruction through autonomous shared driving, reusing old abandoned half-full oil fields with new technology, yada, yada, yada
Saw this?
https://peakoil.com/business/flashback-peak-oil
/BigShrug
Cloggie on Sat, 23rd Mar 2019 4:09 pm
There are too many “ifs” for the future: If people are smarter, if there is no war, if we make a technological advancement. We are now already at the point where we cannot cope with our problems, how we should do it in 50 years, when they are bigger?
-Dennis Meadows
When you were still apneaman you put it slightly different:
Dennis Meadows: “There is nothing that we can do”
“FORMAT interviews Dennis Meadows, author of “The Limits to Growth”, about the shocking position of the planet. 40 years ago, Dennis Meadows presented the best seller “The Limits to Growth”. In it, he predicted, not the exact date of the apocalypse, but the U.S. researchers showed by means of computational models, that by mid-century, the resources of planet Earth will be depleted.”
https://peakoil.com/generalideas/malthusians-v-cornucopians
I AM THE MOB on Sat, 23rd Mar 2019 4:18 pm
‘A plane … would bounce off’: Inside an Air Force veteran’s secret doomsday bunker
https://finance.yahoo.com/news/bunker-life-prepper-doomsday-texas-205608883.html
I AM THE MOB on Sat, 23rd Mar 2019 4:25 pm
CLogg
And what about asteroid mining? And mars colonies..Hell we wont even be living on this planet much longer right?
LOL
I AM THE MOB on Sat, 23rd Mar 2019 4:26 pm
Clogg
And don’t forget delivery drones and AI powered oil rigs..
LOL
I AM THE MOB on Sat, 23rd Mar 2019 4:27 pm
Europe is falling!
‘War is declared’: ‘Yellow vests’ plan protests in nine French cities and a blockade of ports
https://www.thelocal.fr/20190322/qa-french-yellow-vests-gear-up-for-war-at-protests-this-saturday
print baby print on Sat, 23rd Mar 2019 4:29 pm
Clogg the house is on fire
I AM THE MOB on Sat, 23rd Mar 2019 4:31 pm
Self-Driving Cars Will Always Be Limited. Even the Industry Leader Admits it.
https://medium.com/s/story/self-driving-cars-will-always-be-limited-even-the-industry-leader-admits-it-c5fe5aa01699
Waymo CEO: Autonomous cars won’t ever be able to drive in all conditions
https://www.cnet.com/news/alphabet-google-waymo-ceo-john-krafcik-autonomous-cars-wont-ever-be-able-to-drive-in-all-conditions/
Former NASA scientist and climate advocate James Hansen said “suggesting that renewables will let us phase rapidly off fossil fuels in the United States, China, India, or the world as a whole is almost the equivalent of believing in the Easter Bunny and Tooth Fairy.”
Cloggie on Sat, 23rd Mar 2019 4:54 pm
German news in tears: no indictment Trump.LOL
The US left is a joke. They meddle and even invade countries at will, kill hundreds of thousands and next complain if “perhaps” a few Russian kids have facebook accounts and promote Trump.
https://www.infowars.com/must-watch-chris-matthews-suffers-an-epic-meltdown-over-mueller-report/
“CHRIS MATTHEWS SUFFERS AN EPIC MELTDOWN OVER MUELLER REPORT”
The report will not be published.
They.have.nothing.
I AM THE MOB on Sat, 23rd Mar 2019 5:07 pm
Hate crimes have risen 226% in areas where Trump held rallies
https://www.lgbtqnation.com/2019/03/hate-crimes-risen-226-areas-trump-held-rallies/
I AM THE MOB on Sat, 23rd Mar 2019 5:10 pm
France – Emmanuel Macron deploys army tanks in terrifying scenes
YELLOW Vest protesters are facing a terrifying military crackdown after Emmanuel Macron deployed huge black tanks to the streets of Toulouse.
Frightening images saw the army and riot police surround the giant tanks released by Mr Macron in an attempt to rid French cities of violent protests against his government.
https://www.express.co.uk/news/world/1104413/yellow-vest-protest-paris-france-tanks-army-emmanuel-macron-Bruno-Le-Ray
I AM THE MOB on Sat, 23rd Mar 2019 5:12 pm
BETA O’Rourke: Trump ‘Beyond the Shadow of a Doubt, Sought to’ ‘Collude with the Russian Government’
I AM THE MOB on Sat, 23rd Mar 2019 5:24 pm
Deaths of despair” are surging in white America
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=56k4TCJvVZQ
But peckerwoods are the superior race with high I.q’s rite????
LMMFAOOO!!!
I AM THE MOB on Sat, 23rd Mar 2019 5:26 pm
US white population declines and Generation “Z-Plus” is minority white, census shows
https://www.brookings.edu/blog/the-avenue/2018/06/21/us-white-population-declines-and-generation-z-plus-is-minority-white-census-shows/
The great replacement is working as planned! Dat a boy Soros!
Davy on Sat, 23rd Mar 2019 5:32 pm
https://www.lgbtqnation.com
You switch teams MOB?
I AM THE MOB on Sat, 23rd Mar 2019 5:51 pm
Yes, Davy, You and I switch teams every single day, dont you remember? You usually take the morning, and I spam later on. Usually. Btw, next time we go to the goat pen, could you at least use knee-pads. And maybe some lubricant as well?
Davy on Sat, 23rd Mar 2019 5:59 pm
“Hate crimes have risen 226% in areas where Trump held rallies”
MOB, could that be because of fake news reporting by the likes of this:
“SPLC Implodes: President And Legal Director Resign Amid Sexual Misconduct Scandal”
https://tinyurl.com/y2zmknvt zero hedge
“The Southern Poverty Law Center – the “vicious left-wing attack dog” used by the likes of Facebook, Twitter, Google and Amazon to identify “hate groups” – is unraveling. A week after co-founder Morris Dees was ousted over sexual misconduct claims – with two dozen employees signing a letter of concern over “allegations of mistreatment, sexual harassment, gender discrimination, and racism,” the head of the SPLC, Richard Cohen, as well as the organization’s legal director, Rhonda Brownstein, resigned on Friday.”
“As it turns out, the SPLC is a cynical money-making scheme, according to a former staffer’s blistering tell-all, published this week in the New Yorker. The center’s chief goal is to bilk naive and wealthy donors who believe it’s an earnest effort to combat bigotry. The only thing worse than a snarling partisan activist is a slimy conman who merely pretends to be one. -Washington Examiner”
“The way Moser tells it, the center’s chief founder, Morris Dees, who was dismissed unceremoniously last week for unspecified reasons, discovered early on that he could rake in boatloads of cash by convincing “gullible Northern liberals” that his group is doing the hard work of fighting “hate.” But the center’s supposed mission of combating bigotry doesn’t actually matter to its top brass, Moser says. It’s just a business choice and one that has been extremely lucrative throughout the years. Moser’s article reminds readers of the time Dees actually said of the SPLC in an interview with then-Progressive magazine reporter John Egerton, “We just run our business like a business. Whether you’re selling cakes or causes, it’s all the same.” -Washington Examiner Moser claims that the SPLC’s business model centers entirely around keeping its precious donors in constant fear using gimmicks such as “hate maps” and “hate lists.”
I AM THE MOB on Sat, 23rd Mar 2019 7:02 pm
Davy
I think the SPLC does a great job of identifying hate groups..They singled out one in my area that only had 10 people..But the group had pictures on FB of the leader doing Hitler salutes and swastikas..The right hates SPLC because they are trying to protect the hate groups..And there are over 1000k right wing hate groups..Hate is what holds the right together..Its sad too..
And notice they all have one thing in common? lack of education like you Davy..
Ignorance is bliss..
I wouldn’t trust what you ZeroIQ says..That is just a far right doomer porn site run by lunatics..
I AM THE MOB on Sat, 23rd Mar 2019 7:06 pm
Far-right terror poses ‘biggest threat’ to England -BBC
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-47645863
I AM THE MOB on Sat, 23rd Mar 2019 7:43 pm
Here comes the Macron massacre!
French soldiers authorised to open fire on yellow vest protesters
https://www.politico.eu/article/gilets-jaunes-yellow-jackets-soldiers-may-open-fire-if-lives-at-risk-protests-paris-military-general/
boney joe on Sat, 23rd Mar 2019 7:46 pm
Washington Examiner Moser……
well known right wing rag. so what.
I AM THE MOB on Sat, 23rd Mar 2019 8:49 pm
How racism started
https://i.redd.it/35han19rwxn21.jpg
I AM THE MOB on Sat, 23rd Mar 2019 9:02 pm
US and NATO must stand up to Russian aggression on the seas
https://thehill.com/opinion/international/435425-us-and-nato-must-stand-up-to-russian-aggression-on-the-seas
makati1 on Sat, 23rd Mar 2019 9:15 pm
“The average American can forget about retirement….Of course they’ll raise taxes radically. It’s time to eat the rich….Like Venezuela, Socialism Will Conquer the U.S….There’s no question about the fact that the U.S. will turn into a full-fledged welfare state….If I were to attempt putting my finger on exactly when the U.S. will go over the edge, I would think the real catalyst might be the next 9/11-type event. I don’t doubt it’s going to happen.” – Doug Casey
https://www.caseyresearch.com/doug-casey-on-the-year-the-world-falls-apart/
SLIP SLIDIN’… GO TRUMP!
I AM THE MOB on Sat, 23rd Mar 2019 9:19 pm
Mak
Doug Casey is an old fear mongering crank trying to push gold..He is a climate denier too..
You are grasping at straws now Mak..
You are going to die before the US collapses..You are wasting your precious time..
makati1 on Sat, 23rd Mar 2019 9:58 pm
“Most people want higher taxes on rich to support poor – OECD”
“Air Force Requests Billions to Modernize Crumbling Base Infrastructure”
“Trump’s Beijing Blockade Backfires: Not A Single European Country Has Banned Huawei”
“U.S. farmers face devastation following Midwest floods”
“Catastrophic Flooding In The Midwest Could Last “For Months”, And That Is Going To Mean A Dramatic Drop In U.S. Food Production”
“Kale is now one of the most pesticide-contaminated vegetables”
“The Impending US Demographic Tailwind Examined”
“Midwest flooding could be costly: In Nebraska, tab is $1.3 billion and rising with waters”
“The Coming Crisis the Fed Can’t Fix: Credit Exhaustion”
“Empire of Absurdity: Recycled Neocons, Recycled Enemies”
“The Bloodbath In U.S. Shale Stocks Continues: Worst Is Yet To Come”
“Houston chemical fires to rage for two days until fuel burns out”
“If “Slow Wifi” Causes “Major Stress”, How Are Young People Going To Make It When Times Get Really Tough?”
“The US government canceled 362,000 passports last year. Was yours one of them?”
“Foreigners sell U.S. Treasuries for 3rd month in January -data”
“Social Media, Universal Basic Income, and Cashless Society: How China’s Social Credit System Is Coming To America”
“America’s Economy Is Rigged From Top to Bottom”
And on and on… http://ricefarmer.blogspot.com/
You can kill one messenger, but the above is a whole platoon of messengers detailing America’s decline. Slip slidin’…
makati1 on Sat, 23rd Mar 2019 11:03 pm
clogg
your white advocacy is ineffective and boring.
MOB wins hands down. Just because your unit is tiny doesn’t mean grudge is good, it’s bad because it’s stressful.
https://i.redd.it/35han19rwxn21.jpg
Cloggie on Sat, 23rd Mar 2019 11:49 pm
clogg
your white advocacy is ineffective and boring.
MOB wins hands down. Just because your unit is tiny doesn’t mean grudge is good, it’s bad because it’s stressful.
https://i.redd.it/35han19rwxn21.jpg
Mob/apneaman now hijackes mak’s nick to rub in the death of the white race, as promoted by his tribe:
https://youtu.be/53A5AJoRxF0
Not that he is going to succeed:
https://documents1940.wordpress.com/2019/01/07/the-good-news-zog-is-dying/
We Eurasians are going to enjoy the death of ZOG like a long, hand-rolled Cuban cigar. And after that we have a little desert for you in store.
I mean, there is no need for Einsatzgruppen, to be let lose onto North-America, to be exclusively German, now is there, TalmudTurk? Why not Iraqis? Or Iranians? Or Syrians? Or Russians? Remember mob: “diversity is our strength!”. The hoax may not have happened, that doesn’t mean it isn’t a good idea:
http://www.ihr.org/jhr/v20/v20n6p52_Faurisson.html
Now why don’t you start a major war somewhere and see what happens next. The Chinese gloat that your bmi30 Americans can’t take casualties. And Europeans no longer listen to you and Russians just kicked your ass in Syria.
You do know what kind of universe we live in, now don’t you:
https://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Het_sadistische_universum
Every now and our inner Schweinhund needs a piece of red meat… You come to mind.
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