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The World, Built by China
Seven dams generate almost half of Cambodia’s electricity. China built and paid for all of them.
Dam
Kamchay Dam, Cambodia
Port
Port of Hambantota, Sri Lanka
Power
plant
Medupi Power Station, South Africa
Stadium
Heroes National Stadium, Zambia
China envisions a vast global network of trade, investment and infrastructure that will reshape financial and geopolitical ties — and bring the rest of the world closer to Beijing.
It is a modern-day version of the Marshall Plan, America’s reconstruction effort after World War II, which created a foundation for enduring military and diplomatic alliances. China’s strategy is bolder, more expensive and far riskier.
Its money doesn’t necessarily come with the usual rules. And the cost, for China and its borrowers alike, can sometimes be too high.
We examined nearly 600 projects that China helped finance in the last decade, through billions of dollars in grants, loans and investments. Taken together, they show the scope and motivation of China’s strategy.
41 pipelines and other oil and gas infrastructure help China secure valuable resources.
203 bridges, roads and railways create new ways for China to move its goods around the world.
199 power plants — for nuclear, natural gas, coal and renewables — give China new markets for its construction and equipment companies.
We found 112 countries where China has financed projects. While most fall under its infrastructure plan known as the Belt and Road Initiative, Beijing has pushed beyond those boundaries.
Belt and Road countries
are shaded red.
Europe
Asia
North
America
China
Africa
South
America
Australia
After years of honing its construction skills at home, China is now deploying them abroad, including a series of hydroelectric dams.
In terms of power output, many of them approach or exceed the size of the Hoover Dam:
Each circle is
a single power project
Colombia
2,400 MW
Under construction
Angola
2,171 MW
Under const.
Nigeria
3,050 MW
Planned
Argentina
1,740MW
Under const.
Laos
1,272 MW
Under const.
Pakistan
1,124 MW
Under const.
Hoover Dam
2,080 megawatts
Ecuador
1,500 MW
Sudan
1,250 MW
Pakistan
969 MW
Geopolitical Goals
China needs friends. And literal bridges can help build figurative ones.
Large ports in Pakistan, Sri Lanka and Malaysia — three countries along a major oil and commerce route from the Mideast and Africa — could someday double as naval logistics hubs.
Europe
Area shown on roads map below
ATLANTIC
OCEAN
Asia
TURKEY
China
PAKISTAN
INDIA
Africa
SRI LANKA
ETHIOPIA
Light red lines show
ocean shipping activity.
MALAYSIA
Dots show ports
China helped build.
INDIAN OCEAN
Beijing is heavily focused on its neighbors, lending them money for extensive road-building projects. Pakistan is running out of money to repay the loans, part of a broader pattern of what critics call China’s “debt trap” diplomacy.
KAZAKHSTAN
UZBEKISTAN
KYRG.
Lines show Chinese
road projects.
TAJIK.
China
TURKMENISTAN
Kabul
Islamabad
AFGH.
IRAN
Lahore
PAK.
INDIA
Gwadar Port
Karachi
Different Standards
China has a different view when it comes to labor and environmental strictures. To staff overseas projects, Chinese companies have flown in their own workers by the thousands, drawing complaints that they are doing little to create local jobs. Safety standards have been uneven.
And Beijing continues to export polluting technologies like coal-fired power plants, even as such projects have become unpopular in China.
Risky Moves
Western governments and multinationals generally steer clear of politically volatile countries. The Chinese government has been less skittish, lending heavily to nations like Venezuela, Nigeria and Zimbabwe.
But China’s lending is not usually largess. Countries that run into financial trouble must renegotiate their loans, putting them deeper into debt. Sometimes projects are left in limbo.
Ecuador spent over $1 billion to prepare a site for a $12 billion Chinese refinery that was supposed to be finished in 2013. It’s stalled.
Forest
Land cleared for
construction
QUARTER
MILE
Methodology
This analysis focused on projects valued at over $25 million that were partly or completely funded by a Chinese entity in the last 10 years. Projects that rehabilitate or expand existing infrastructure are included, in addition to new construction projects.
Data sources
In addition to our own reporting, we compiled information on these projects from the following sources:
- The Construction Intelligence Center
- The Inter-American Dialogue’s China-Latin America Finance Database
- The China Africa Research Initiative at the John Hopkins University School of Advanced International Studies
- China’s Global Energy Finance, from the Global Economic Governance Initiative at Boston University.
- Reconnecting Asia from the Center for Strategic and International Studies
- China Global Investment Tracker from the American Enterprise Institute
- The Global Chinese Official Finance Dataset from AidData at the College of William and Mary
- International Rivers
Satellite images from Bing and Google Earth. List of One Belt One Road countries from the State Information Center in Beijing. Ocean traffic data from University College London’s Energy Institute and Kiln Digital. Road shapes from the Center for Strategic and International Studies.
Credits
Additional reporting by Karoline Kan, Ailin Tang and Tiffany May.
147 Comments on "The World, Built by China"
makati1 on Tue, 20th Nov 2018 3:53 am
DAvy, why don’t you point out the US failings and compare them, dollar for dollar, with those of China? You know you would only prove how much propaganda you have swallowed in the Us’ current “hate” of China because it is taking over the world’s economy and leaving the US in the dust. The US is going down and China will continue with it’s plans. They are not as stupid as Americans.
You are in dee3p denial Davy. That 2X4 of reality is fast approaching your face. Better duck! LOL
“You can ignore reality, but you cannot ignore the consequences of ignoring reality” Ayn Rand
Davy on Tue, 20th Nov 2018 4:01 am
“Davy, why, references to rebut my above assertion which is quite narrow if you pay attention. What don’t you understand about the West consuming 60% of the worlds resources and being less than 1/4 of the world’s population?”
What don’t you understand about the rest of the world consuming 40% (assuming your figures are correct) and having ¾ of the population….and growing with population and consumption??? IMA that ¾ of the remaining population is composed of a significant amount consuming the majority of the 40% little different than the US. I further world say there is a smaller amount of the west population consuming the majority of the resources in the west and these consumers are little different than the high consumers in Asia. You are so far off into extreme comparisons for your personal obsession it is pathetic.
“The Us producing 50% of the world’s trash.”
FALSE…..REFERENCES
Davy on Tue, 20th Nov 2018 4:14 am
DAvy, why don’t you point out the US failings and compare them, dollar for dollar, with those of China?
My god billy, this is very well covered by the cabal of anti-Americans here. Most of the articles on this site are anti-American biased. This place has US failing well covered, rehearsed, gang delivered and with a full symphony of people that hate the US with a passion.
“ You know you would only prove how much propaganda you have swallowed in the Us’ current “hate” of China because it is taking over the world’s economy and leaving the US in the dust.”
There you go again saying China is rising and the US failing but of course all the problems and consumption is in the US. Billy is having his cake and eating it.
“The US is going down and China will continue with it’s plans. They are not as stupid as Americans.”
Wow, that is very scientific. LOL, Sounds like an old man talking at the street corner with the other bored old men.
“You are in dee3p denial Davy. That 2X4 of reality is fast approaching your face. Better duck! LOL”
How cute billy. You only say that routinely and over 6 years now. You may want to expand your vocabulary
“You can ignore reality, but you cannot ignore the consequences of ignoring reality” Ayn Rand”
A cute quote is not going to help your losing position billy. You need to be understanding what part you play in this in regards to your quote.
I AM THE MOB on Tue, 20th Nov 2018 4:58 am
Only educated, stoic minds can accept collapse.
Ordinary minds would deny it.
Cloggie on Tue, 20th Nov 2018 5:03 am
“Only educated, stoic minds can accept collapse.”
That would exclude clowns like you.
Davy on Tue, 20th Nov 2018 5:13 am
“Only educated, stoic minds can accept collapse.”
only educated and stoic minds can understand the collapse/growth process. Acceptance is another conversation.
Davy on Tue, 20th Nov 2018 5:17 am
I thought Euroland championed renewables. LOL. Europe is a long way from carbon free.
“France Suffers Anti-Carbon Revolt: Massive Road Blocks Against Macron’s Diesel Tax”
https://tinyurl.com/y9zsq7x3
“Macron Insists UK Abide by Climate Change Accord Meanwhile, please note that Macron has placed a new demand on the UK in Brexit: Macron Wants Climate Change to be Part of “Final” Brexit Deal.”
I AM THE MOB on Tue, 20th Nov 2018 5:36 am
The downfall of western civilization reduced to one FB post..
https://imgur.com/a/nU3P69Y
I AM THE MOB on Tue, 20th Nov 2018 5:55 am
Clogg is obsessed with alpha males ie Putin, Trump, Spencer.. He loves a Strong dominant male to submit himself to..
Typical European faggot..
The next World war against Europe..May be brief..
Dooma on Tue, 20th Nov 2018 6:01 am
claes, I could not agree more with your hatred of damming rivers. It is ecological vandalism on a scale that destroys ecosystems not only for the people downstream but every living creature as well.
Where I live, every single river that I grew up around has been reduced to the status of a stream because there is a dam somewhere along its path.
Cloggie on Tue, 20th Nov 2018 6:47 am
I thought Euroland championed renewables. LOL. Europe is a long way from carbon free.
“France Suffers Anti-Carbon Revolt: Massive Road Blocks Against Macron’s Diesel Tax”
https://tinyurl.com/y9zsq7x3
At least Macron tries to phase out diesel, where the US under Trump promotes it.
Renewables are German, Danish, Swedish, Norwegian, British and increasingly Dutch.
France is nuclear, not renewable.
I AM THE MOB on Tue, 20th Nov 2018 7:07 am
CLogg
There is no phasing out fossil fuels you imbecile, or we would have done it already..
Renewable’s are a false hope..science fiction as Dr Smil an energy historian has said..
I AM THE MOB on Tue, 20th Nov 2018 7:12 am
Alberta MLA says marijuana legalization could lead to communist revolution
https://globalnews.ca/news/3889241/alberta-mla-says-marijuana-legalization-could-lead-to-communist-revolution/
That’s the plan..shhh cloggy don’t like that
I AM THE MOB on Tue, 20th Nov 2018 7:24 am
Clogg
Richard Spencer Beat His Pregnant Wife, Kept Her Sleep-Deprived, Divorce Filings Allege
https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/richard-spencer-wife-nina-koupriianova_us_5bd06d29e4b055bc9486edc6
You are scum..
Cloggie on Tue, 20th Nov 2018 7:41 am
“Renewable’s are a false hope..science fiction as Dr Smil an energy historian has said..”
He hasn’t, you stinking liar. From his wikipedia page:
“Smil is sceptical that there will be a rapid transition to clean energy, believing it will take much longer than many predict.”
In other words he is not saying it won’t happen. But who cares, he is a North-American has-been, with one leg in the third world and no longer at the forefront of global development. Eurasia is the place to be, North-America the place where people are no longer guaranteed to be able to read and write.
Back to the stone age.
Wilmaaaaaaaaa!
Cloggie on Tue, 20th Nov 2018 8:36 am
One after the other….
Israel and Poland also reject UN migrationpact:
http://m.spiegel.de/politik/ausland/israel-und-polen-lehnen-uno-migrationspakt-ab-a-1239449.htmlM
LOL
Message to third world: get lost.
I AM THE MOB on Tue, 20th Nov 2018 8:52 am
CLogg
You are grasping at straws..
Your brain won’t allow you to believe the apocalypse could actually happen
https://io9.gizmodo.com/5848857/your-brain-wont-allow-you-to-believe-the-apocalypse-could-actually-happen
Your mind doesn’t have the scoop cloggnative dissonance..
Renewable energy ‘simply won’t work’: Top Google engineers
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2014/11/21/renewable_energy_simply_wont_work_google_renewables_engineers/
Solar and Wind produced less than one percent of total world energy in 2016 – IEA WEO 2017
https://www.iea.org/publications/freepublications/publication/KeyWorld2017.pdf
UC Davis Peer Reviewed Study: It Will Take 131 Years to Replace Oil with Alternatives
(Malyshkina, 2010)
http://pubs.acs.org/doi/abs/10.1021/es100730q
University of Chicago Peer Reviewed Study: predicts world economy unlikely to stop relying on fossil fuels (Covert, 2016)
https://www.aeaweb.org/articles?id=10.1257/jep.30.1.117
At this rate, it’s going to take nearly 400 years to transform the energy system
https://www.technologyreview.com/s/610457/at-this-rate-its-going-to-take-nearly-400-years-to-transform-the-energy-system/
JuanP on Tue, 20th Nov 2018 8:56 am
More lies and abuse from Davy above. I dare you to say out loud “USA is the greatest!” three times and not feel like a ridiculous dirty liar, Exceptionalist! LOL! He is such a pathetically sad fuck!
Davy on Tue, 20th Nov 2018 9:33 am
Stop whining fool and say something. We know how proud you are of yourself. What you have not proven is balanced intellect.
Эй, братья, пожалуйста, ударьте антиамериканскую собаку, которую я сделал из гранитного форума on Tue, 20th Nov 2018 10:10 am
juan supertard doesn’t lie. he has some land 10000 acres and raise goat using the principle of lazy man farming if i may say that myself without implying or adding to any cult value of similar or dissimilar techniques that i pioneered. it’s really doesn’t matter if he lies ..the thing that matter is you go back to south america and enjoy the botflies there.
Эй, братья, пожалуйста, ударьте антиамериканскую собаку, которую я сделал из гранитного форума on Tue, 20th Nov 2018 10:14 am
it really doesn’t matter that china built the biggest infrastructures. my supertards can do that in their sleep right here in america. that’s why juan doesn’t want to go back to south america. he rather enjoy supertards america while crying about injustice here.
soviets built big structures too.
big structures won’t make the lack of democratic values easier to swallow. it’s still dictatorship for comrades putin and comrade xi
I AM THE MOB on Tue, 20th Nov 2018 10:36 am
TRUMP IS ‘AFRAID’ TO VISIT WAR ZONE COMBAT TROOPS BECAUSE ‘PEOPLE WANT TO KILL HIM’
https://www.newsweek.com/trump-afraid-visit-war-zone-combat-people-want-kill-him-report-1224081?utm_source=newsweek&utm_medium=push_notification&utm_campaign=onesignal
The great orange haired meat puppet is scared of everything..Typical trust fund baby like Davy..
LMFAO!
I AM THE MOB on Tue, 20th Nov 2018 11:21 am
Bill Nye: We are not going to live on Mars, let alone turn it into Earth
https://www.usatoday.com/story/tech/science/2018/11/19/bill-nye-mars-were-not-going-live-there-make-like-earth/1905447002/
Cloggie on Tue, 20th Nov 2018 11:35 am
TRUMP IS ‘AFRAID’ TO VISIT WAR ZONE COMBAT TROOPS BECAUSE ‘PEOPLE WANT TO KILL HIM’
Finally a politician who says after the election the same thing as he did before, namely that he opposed the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq.
Trump is far from being a coward as he single-handedly took on the US deep state, on his own purse, until today. He absolutely has stamina. That’s why the Mob and his “Elders” hit DJT.
His energy and climate policies may suck, for combating the right enemy I consider him as one of the greatest presidents of the US.
But the real fun will begin right after DJT will leave office.
I AM THE MOB on Tue, 20th Nov 2018 11:46 am
CLogg
He took on the deep state? He increased the military budget..Dropped the mother of all bombs in Afghanistan and increase their troop numbers..And attacked Syria twice on false flags..And he is best buds with the Saudi’s and Israel..
You are a true nut job..Pure make believe..
Cloggie on Tue, 20th Nov 2018 12:10 pm
The deep state is attacking him around the clock, that is all the proof you need, you kosher imbecile.
He didn’t attack Syria, that was purely cosmetic to appease the neocon howlers at home.
I can never get enough of this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UtJvYdX4GKM
These Iran sanctions turn out to be fake as well as he is doling out waivers to 7 countries.
What he really does is preparing for European America to leave the union.
I AM THE MOB on Tue, 20th Nov 2018 12:26 pm
CLogg
You are a paranoid schizophrenic..There is no evidence of any deep state..And amateur youtube videos is not convincing evidence..
You just want to believe he is fighting the good fight..Just like you want to believe renewables will replace fossil fuels..
You live in a fantasy land..Because you have a very low IQ like all conservatives..You don’t understand logic..
Don’t worry your miserable life will be over soon, along with Trump’s rustbelt losers..
I AM THE MOB on Tue, 20th Nov 2018 12:29 pm
Clogg
As M. King Hubbert (1956) shows, peak oil is about discovering less oil, and eventually producing less oil due to lack of discovery.
Oil discoveries in 2017 hit all-time low –Houston Chronicle
https://www.chron.com/business/energy/article/Oil-discoveries-in-2017-hit-all-time-low-12447212.php
IEA Chief warns of world oil shortages by 2020 as discoveries fall to record lows
https://www.wsj.com/articles/iea-says-global-oil-discoveries-at-record-low-in-2016-1493244000
Saudi Arabia’s Energy Minister Warns of World Oil Shortages Ahead
https://www.wsj.com/articles/saudi-minister-sees-end-of-oil-price-slump-1476870790
Saudi Aramco chief warns of looming oil shortage
https://www.ft.com/content/ed1e8102-212f-11e7-b7d3-163f5a7f229c
A Regional Oil Extraction and Consumption Model. (Dittmar 2017)
https://arxiv.org/pdf/1708.03150.pdf
HSBC Global Bank: 81% of world liquids production already in decline and world oil shortages ahead
https://www.scribd.com/document/367688629/HSBC-Peak-Oil-Report-2017
Projection of World Fossil Fuels by Country (Mohr, 2015)
https://www.scribd.com/document/375110317/Projection-of-World-Fossil-Fuels-by-Country-Mohr-2015
Australian Government (Leaked) 457 pg Study: concludes world peak oil around 2020
https://web.archive.org/web/20170415190328/https://www.aspo-australia.org.au/References/Bruce/BITRE-Report-117-Oil_supply_trends-2009.pdf
There will be an oil shortage in the 2020’s, Goldman Sachs says
https://www.cnbc.com/2018/11/09/goldman-sachs-there-will-be-an-oil-shortage-in-the-2020s.html
Davy on Tue, 20th Nov 2018 12:34 pm
“There is no evidence of any deep state.”
What naivete!
Cloggie on Tue, 20th Nov 2018 12:36 pm
Don’t worry your miserable life will be over soon, along with Trump’s rustbelt losers..
I’m more worried about your life.
“Can’t you discipline him?”
One of Mob’s tribe says that holotale didn’t happen:
https://russia-insider.com/en/mainstream-holocaust-narrative-substantially-if-not-entirely-false-editor-top-us-conservative-site
Imagine the consequences for Mob if this becomes general knowledge! Fortunately he can always flee to Israel, just like empire Dave can run off to ultra-white Italy, if for both these guys the ground gets too hot under their feet.
Russia budget surplus of 3.6% GDP:
https://russia-insider.com/en/sanctioned-russia-records-36-budget-surplus-share-gdp-2018/ri25394
South Stream merely 50 km away. A change in policy, like Bulgarian leaders growing a pair, and South Stream would be realized. Austria is interested:
https://russia-insider.com/en/russia-takes-major-leap-european-gas-war/ri25410
Trump has the intimidating handshake, Pence The Stare:
https://russia-insider.com/en/iron-mike-pence-tries-stare-down-putin-asean-summit/ri25435
International diplomacy is not an American fort.
Davy on Tue, 20th Nov 2018 12:37 pm
“As M. King Hubbert (1956) shows, peak oil is about discovering less oil, and eventually producing less oil due to lack of discovery.”
Do you have clarification on that or are you talking out our ass?
Davy on Tue, 20th Nov 2018 12:40 pm
“Dave can run off to ultra-white Italy, if for both these guys the ground gets too hot under their feet.”
Where are you going? ooops, you don’t have options. You don’t even have a dog to care for.
Davy on Tue, 20th Nov 2018 12:44 pm
A MOB hero:
“Aspiring Actress Files Restraining Order Against Michael Avenatti”
https://tinyurl.com/yag6uuwv
Cloggie on Tue, 20th Nov 2018 12:59 pm
Where are you going? ooops, you don’t have options.
I could go to Italy more easily than you. Or any other country in the EU.
#Schengen
But unlike you, I have a country I can call my home. I have no reason to go anywhere as I am living in one of the best countries in the world, where yours is on the verge of CW2.
You don’t even have a dog to care for.
You know absolutely nothing about my private life.
Davy on Tue, 20th Nov 2018 1:03 pm
‘But unlike you, I have a country I can call my home. I have no reason to go anywhere as I am living in one of the best countries in the world, where yours is on the verge of CW2.”
sure neder, keep telling yourself everything is perfect lol. Maybe you should worry more about yourself and less about everyone else. You specialize in pointing fingers and talking yourself up. That is a sign of a twisted personality.
I AM THE MOB on Tue, 20th Nov 2018 1:10 pm
Clogg
Russia Insider? LMFAO!
Hey clogg I have some magic beans I would love to sell you!
I AM THE MOB on Tue, 20th Nov 2018 1:12 pm
Clogg
There is no evidence of any deep state..You are just a paranoid old senile man..
You better watch out for those black government helicopters!
LMFAO!
I AM THE MOB on Tue, 20th Nov 2018 1:53 pm
Energy companies lose $1 trillion in value as crude price plummets
https://www.chron.com/business/energy/article/Energy-companies-lose-1-trillion-in-value-as-13404799.php
Oil prices are way too low..The Saudis should have been focusing on stabilizing oil prices instead of murdering a journalist..
makati1 on Tue, 20th Nov 2018 5:14 pm
Deep State? Of course there is. Denial doesn’t change facts MOB. It is the Military Industrial Complex, CIA/NSA/Etc.,the corporate billionaires, and the Federal Reserve. Not elected, just the powers behind the government. Your vote means nothing. If you believe different, the brainwashing is complete. Your diploma is in the mail. LMAO!
Pete Bauer on Tue, 20th Nov 2018 5:51 pm
Malaysia, Srilanka, Sierra Leone, Maldives have cancelled the projects that were signed with China by their previous governments were cancelled when the new leaderships came to power.
All those projects were only for China’s benefit and not for the host countries.
Many in Pakistan are questioning the real benefits of CPEC to Pakistan.
All these projects are designed to send the raw materials to China while China in turn will ship the manufactured goods which will make it very rich and powerful.
Anonymouse on Tue, 20th Nov 2018 5:57 pm
‘MOB’ > I AM THE DAVYTURD mak. Might as well address his schizo alter ego by his real name. It just feeds his delusions and strokes his multi-polar ego using his sock-handle.
I AM THE MOB on Tue, 20th Nov 2018 6:18 pm
Mak
Two to the one from the one to the three,
I like good pussy and I like good trees,
Smoke so much weed you wouldn’t believe,
And I get more ass than a toilet seat..
I AM THE MOB on Tue, 20th Nov 2018 6:23 pm
Mak
So fuck Charlie Manson,
I’ll snatch him out of his truck
Hit ’em with a brick,
And I’m dancin..
makati1 on Tue, 20th Nov 2018 6:23 pm
Pete, and who will mine these resources? The people of that country. The Chinese have to pay people and raise their living standards or they will have no customers for their products.
How do you think the US got to be an empire? By being fair and noble? What is the US doing in Afghanistan except plundering resources? Venezuela? Syria? Iraq? etc. Plundering and murdering. At least the Chinese are using money and trade, not death and destruction.
And, how do you know that what you claim is true? Do you have some secret access to these countries? Have you been there? Odds are, all you have is Western propaganda to base your beliefs on. In other words, bullshit.
China is moving up. The US is moving down. Happens to all empires eventually. Power is moving East. Adjust.
makati1 on Tue, 20th Nov 2018 6:26 pm
Anon, if they are the same, then Davy must not sleep very much. Cat naps? He certainly could not do much on that “farm”. But it is an interesting thought.
Davy on Tue, 20th Nov 2018 6:35 pm
billy, your loving anon is a irrelevant social media pervert. He rarely says anything of substance. All he is worried about is attacking Americans in ways that are unintellectual. He is incapable of debate. He is rarely here anymore so he is in effect irrelevant. Billy, get a grip you dirty gang is disbanded. You don’t have the groupies to support and flank you anymore. Now you have to face me like a man and not the sheltered old man of the past. Earlier today you got a taste of what is ahead. Your blind delusional extremist agenda is going to be neutered even more than in the past. I promise
I AM THE MOB on Tue, 20th Nov 2018 6:36 pm
Why do they still call it “Black Friday” when retailers are no longer in the black?
Davy on Tue, 20th Nov 2018 6:44 pm
“China is moving up. The US is moving down. Happens to all empires eventually. Power is moving East. Adjust.”
The Chinese are thieves just like any of the other major economic powers that have been. It is just blind Sinophiles like billy and juanP that are delusional about China. They think China is the greatest thing since sliced bread, why, because China is a competitor to the US. That is the only reason. Logic and the numbers are not important to these extremist it is agenda that matters.
Anonymouse on Tue, 20th Nov 2018 6:48 pm
Didn’t take the exceptionaltard very long to jump to his socks defense did it….
Davy on Tue, 20th Nov 2018 6:55 pm
I always know a score and that is when anonymouse jumps back into the conversation. Did my last comment hit the spot, dork? You are irrelevant stupid. Your impute here is minimal. It is noise. Your dirty gang that engaged in cowardly group censorship is disbanded. GregT is a mental case and AWOL. JuanP has run out of steam probably in a long overdue depression. Then there is the senile old man struggling on but with less and less mental effort. He is aging and his supporters are gone. LMFAO, victory is sweet!