No, Giant Farms Are Not Feeding the World. They’re Feeding Canada.

116 Comments on "No, Giant Farms Are Not Feeding the World. They’re Feeding Canada."

Davy on Wed, 5th Oct 2016 6:38 am 



Sounds great to be altruistic. Let’s revamp our agriculture to feed the poor. This is a good and noble goal. It is a higher human moral expediency. The rich must sacrifice for the poor. That is until it smacks into reality of overconsumption and overpopulation. The world is in overshoot on both levels and people are at risk both rich and poor. This altruism fails to account for systematic rigidities. The understanding of agriculture is skewed as well. The economic realities of trade flows and global finance are not realized.

Calling meat a luxury is an example. This misunderstanding fails to realize the nature of sustainable farming where animals will have to be part of the mix. Yes, factory farm produced meat is a luxury but instead we will need huge increase in small meat production on marginal land. You don’t eliminate a food sector and replace it with another like that. There is land that can only be grazed. If you tear up land meant to be grazed to plant fruits and vegetables the land will be quickly eroded and degraded. Animals will be needed to produce fertilizer. These folks don’t understand the economics of global food and huge monocultures. A small amount of food can be dispersed as aid but the lion share must be traded with a return. Industrial agriculture is an expensive and risky business. It is global and integrated.

We are not going to revamp industrial agriculture because it is too big to fail just like the banks. We are stuck with our creation until it stops working. When it stops so will globalism and modernism. It is only with food surpluses that we have a stable society. We will utilize industrial agriculture because we have no choice until we can’t. If we are lucky we will have a decade or two to make a tough transition to more sustainable agriculture that utilizes animal power and the nutrient cycle. This will only happen in a die off situation that at best will be the reduction of 100-200MIL people a year on average to get down to 1BIL people in a generation or less. It is likely there will at some point be a harsh die off period where vulnerable locations have famines like man has never seen. The list of poor countries will be the front line of the die off. There is no way around this. Altruism will give way to the realities of survival.

Systematically the requirements of changing agriculture requires the end of monocultures with the repopulation of the countryside with small farms. Human and animal labor will be key ingredients. The problem with this is the logistics and the know-how curve. We are on the wrong side of the curve. In the third world the problem is the land is already populated with small farmers. Some large farms could be converted but this will be a loss of production that normally is a source of foreign exchange to buy food and other necessities.

This situation will soon be a changed reality and articles like this will disappear. The poor third world will not be the subject it will be the poor neighborhood nearby and general food insecurity. Mother Jones is lost in the status quo like most other academics today. It is the heroic among the academic world that risk irrelevance and ridicule to alert those who listen to the real dangers ahead of a collapsing world confronted with economic decay, resource depletion, and abrupt climate change. The world wants to hear about the Elon’s and Boeing’s race to Mars not about the collapse of industrial agriculture and the knock on to modern civilization. These are real dangers directly related to the destructive change coming to industrial agriculture.

We can still try to feed the poor now while we can but don’t think for a moment that the current situation of food surpluses is secure. We are snowballing into a world of scarcity with the end of growth. This means a die off. We can try to mitigate some of this with good decisions and fairness but for the most part this will be a process beyond human management. It will be the end of modernism and the beginning of the postmodern world. It will be a wakeup call to the rich west who casually write articles about the poor when they themselves will soon be hungry.

makati1 on Wed, 5th Oct 2016 6:44 am 



The US exports only expensive shit that most cannot afford in less developed countries.

I noted that the PS is number 10 and I can see that in the markets I visit weekly. About $2.3B imports of food stuffs from the US in 2015, mostly animal feed.

Less than 1/5 of the bigger grocery store’s shelves have US brands. Few are actually made in the US. My favorite Campbells Cream of Mushroom soup comes from Canada. My Quaker Oatmeal is made right here in the Ps for it’s owner, Pepsi. DelMonte fruits are also canned here. Few ‘American’ brands actually come from America. I guess these are examples of some of those ‘missing’ jobs that are putting the American middle class into the poor house. lol

I personally buy mostly stuff not American in brand or actual manufacture. Most veggies come from Europe. milk: Australia. Butter: New Zealand. Canned peaches: China. A lot of my current diet comes from China or Thailand.

Buy ‘local’ and cheaper. Example: Canned whole corn US P58 / Thai P27. (And the Thai corn tastes better.) Ps instant coffee, same quantity US P490 / Ps P200. And equal or better taste, plus it comes in a nice, heavy duty, wide mouth, reusable, glass jar.

That is why I can live on half of my income and save or invest the other half. Not to mention the cost of meds, haircuts, transportation, etc. are a small fraction of US prices and equal or better than US quality. Visit the Ps and see for yourself, if you do not believe me. You can do it for less than $3,000.00 for a month’s stay, including a plane ticket. ~$5,000.00 for a couple. ^_^

penury on Wed, 5th Oct 2016 9:48 am 



But the poor do not have any money, and our farmers cannot afford to give the crops away. Transportation costs are higher than the price of the food. If you cannot pay, you cannot play.

Kenz300 on Wed, 5th Oct 2016 9:48 am 



Too many people create too much pollution and demand too many resources.

China made great progress in moving its people out of poverty one reason was slowing population growth.

If you can not provide for yourself you can not provide for a child.

CLIMATE CHANGE, declining fish stocks, droughts, floods, air water and land pollution, poverty, water and food shortages all stem from the worlds worst environmental problem OVER POPULATION.

Yet the world adds 80 million more mouths to feed, clothe, house and provide energy and water for every year.

This is unsustainable and is a big part of the Climate Change problem

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rockman on Wed, 5th Oct 2016 9:59 am 



“The US exports only expensive shit that most cannot afford in less developed countries.” Not correct:

The leading U.S. exports are grains/feeds, soybeans, livestock products, and horticultural products. For instance the US and Canada are the two largest wheat exporters and combined deliver 30% of global exports.

On an annual basis, Canada exports more than 17,000,000 tonnes of wheat, durum and wheat flour to countries around the world. Major importers of Canadian wheat include Mexico, Japan, Iraq and Colombia. Canada’s annual wheat export revenues are close to $5.4 billion.

The US is the world’s leading wheat and corn exporter. It is also the leading exporter of “total grains” which are barly, corn, millet, mixed grains, oats, rice, rye, sorghum and wheat.

The primary source of calories for the world’s population are the grains.

Apneaman on Wed, 5th Oct 2016 10:35 am 



To further rockmans comment, in Canada we produce an obscene amount of food. Even while Canada imports much American food products. No Almond growing in Canada – luvs me some almonds. If you look at the trade balance between the US and Canada, it’s pretty much a wash. They buy the raw resources, but Canada buys plenty of their finished goods. Maybe more than any other country. Who needs who?

“International trade is crucial to Canada’s red meat industry since Canada produces much more meat than our 35 million people can consume.”

“Canada’s meat exports have grown significantly in the past 15 years. Exports of beef have risen from 100,000 tonnes in 1990 to almost 322,000 tonnes, valued at $2.2 billion, in 2015. Exports of pork have increased from 200,000 tonnes in 1990 to 1,171,000 tonnes, valued at $3.42 billion, in 2015.

Last year, Canada exported pork and beef to over 125 countries around the world.”

http://www.cmc-cvc.com/en/international-trade

ghung on Wed, 5th Oct 2016 10:41 am 



It would be helpful to view this in terms of calories rather than dollars.

peakyeast on Wed, 5th Oct 2016 11:00 am 



No one has to export directly to poor countries in order to help poor countries get food.

Indirectly any (cheap) producer of food is holdning down the prices and thus supporting the poor. The more and the cheaper the products are the more they help the poor – no matter where on earth.

rockman on Wed, 5th Oct 2016 1:57 pm 



Ghung – True. I could convert pounds of grain into calories. But I won’t. You? LOL.

And mak: don’t misunderstand my post. While we still supply the world with a lot of calories we don’t do it to be nice. It ain’t personal…just good business. We are still the most “selfish” energy consumers on the planet. LOL.

sparky on Wed, 5th Oct 2016 4:20 pm 



.
this article is simply wrong ,the aggri-business is feeding the world in an unprecedented way ,
worldwide access to food is as good as it ever was with cheaper , better food security and quality .

this site of the FAO give the story

http://www.fao.org/fileadmin/templates/worldfood/images/home_graph_3.jpg

Anonymous on Wed, 5th Oct 2016 6:57 pm 



Who are you talking to Kenzparrot? Think we didn’t get your ‘cant provide for child dont have one’ routine? We GET it, got it the after the first 1000 times or so you said it.

Give it a rest ffs….

Anonymous on Wed, 5th Oct 2016 7:06 pm 



The article is exactly correct. The uS definitely does NOT ‘feed the world’. It sends its ‘food’ mainly to two destinations. To people that can ‘afford it’*, and to those regions where it seeks to undermine local ag, or self-sufficiency by driving ‘local’ producers, out of business. (Mexico is a good example). IoW, the uS uses food exports as a weapon to dominate and control other nations vital food chains.

The uS undermines food self-sufficiency and healthy food around the globe, it does not ‘enhance’ it by any measure.

* Even here it bears mentioning, that uS also uses ‘FTA’s and similar mechanisms to undermine local ag even in nations nomically friendly to the empire. That is to say, under its control. Canada is a good example. The uS constantly seeks to undermine marketing boards in order to swamp Canada with toxic( subsidized) GMO frankenfoods. EU and Japanese barriers meant to protect their own farmers and companies, are also a frequent target of uS ‘ trade negotiators’.

makati1 on Wed, 5th Oct 2016 8:50 pm 



Anon, you again see the true picture. It is not about food, it is about world domination by a dying country.

rockman on Wed, 5th Oct 2016 9:07 pm 



About US and Canadian food exports and imports for anyone interested in FACTS:

U.S. exports of agricultural products to Canada totaled $24 billion in 2015, our largest agricultural export market. Leading categories include: prepared food ($1.9 billion), fresh vegetables ($1.9 billion), fresh fruit ($1.6 billion), snack foods ($1.3 billion), and non-alcoholic bev. (ex. juices) ($1.2 billion).

U.S. imports of agricultural products from Canada totaled $22 billion in 2015, our largest supplier of agricultural imports. Leading categories include: snack foods ($3.7 billion), red meats, fr/ch/fr ($2.2 billion), live animals ($1.8 billion), other vegetable oils ($1.6 billion), and processed fruit & vegetables ($1.4 billion).

makati1 on Wed, 5th Oct 2016 9:41 pm 



Pull the government teat and American farming would crash and burn.

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-10-05/usda-pay-7bn-subsidies-farmers-2016-10-aggregate-farm-income

And that day is coming…

Kenz300 on Thu, 6th Oct 2016 11:09 am 



The worlds poorest people are having the most children. They have not figured out the connection between their poverty and family size.

Endless population growth is not sustainable.

If you can not provide for yourself you can not provide for a child.

Gilles Fecteau on Thu, 6th Oct 2016 3:09 pm 



While we need to address overpopulation, the reality is that we could feed everybody on a vegan diet. If North Americans reduced their meat and dairy consumption by half, plenty of crops would be available to feed the poor.
In addition, health cost would be reduced significantly. Excessive meat and dairy consumption is the source of many health issues we face.

The environment would also greatly benefit from a reduction in factory farming.

Davy on Thu, 6th Oct 2016 3:17 pm 



Another deluded vegan preaching salvation for whining overpopulated apes if only they would turn marginal land into gardens. We could feed ourselves sustainably in overpopulation if we could learn to enjoy human flesh that is about the only scenario.

onlooker on Thu, 6th Oct 2016 3:28 pm 



While this would be a good idea Gilles in the short term. Like Renewable energy energy it is a problem of scale. More profoundly the abundance of fertile is not what it was even more so our huge world is inevitably altering adversely all Earth’s ecosystems and drawing down non renewable resources and even overusing renewable resources. So we are in a predicament as a species without any comprehensive solutions. All we are left capable of doing is attempts to mitigate the worse consequences

Cloggie on Thu, 6th Oct 2016 5:21 pm 



Before you read something, first always verify who the author is, c.q. The owner of the conglomerate publishing the article:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mother_Jones_(magazine)

Owner Mother Jones and 70 other progressieve outlets: Steve Katz

Right.

The intention of Katz c.s. is to push the idea that Africa is our problem and that it is our responsibility to ensure that someday these people will “develop”. And until that glorious moment will arrive any failure to achieve that lofty goal is basically the fault of whitey (to be explained from slavery and colonialism).

According to UN projections, Africa will increase from 1 billion people today to a depressing 4 billion by 2100. Any notion to keep these people out will be fought tooth and nail by Katz and his tribe, who universally push the “open society” model.

As always, these lefties suggest there is “hunger” in Africa. And although this may be true for war and refugee situations, it is not a universal African problem anymore.

Why doesn’t Africa buy US food? Why is it a problem in the first place? Africans haven’t shown much competence in almost all areas of economic life, but at least they are able to put a veggie seed in the soil and every now and then sprinkle water over it. Agriculture has always (correctly) been seen as the bottom layer of society with little status. If there is one thing that Africans should do themselves is agriculture; buying food from the other side of the planet is undesirable. Let the Americans sell their produce to neighbouring Canada, not to Kenia.

And if even that is asked too much, then Africa should be recolonized by the developed north (US, EU, China).

ghung on Thu, 6th Oct 2016 5:45 pm 



“And if even that is asked too much, then Africa should be recolonized by the developed north (US, EU, China).”

Gosh, Cloggie, get your ass down there and colonise. I suggest the DRC. You’ll love it.

Apneaman on Thu, 6th Oct 2016 6:26 pm 



Cloggie’s dutch and they can neither defend themselves nor attack. Really good at whining for others to do it though.

peaksocialgayness on Thu, 6th Oct 2016 7:00 pm 



If US ever wanted to exterminate islamics and other undesirables just stop exporting food.

Anonymous on Thu, 6th Oct 2016 7:38 pm 



And conversely, if you ever wanted to exterminate USlamics (aka undesirables), just stop shipping to McDonalds, KFC, and Walmart.

ghung on Thu, 6th Oct 2016 7:39 pm 



peaksocialgayness mentions; …exterminate islamics and other undesirables…”

Gosh,, what other ‘undesirables’ do you think should be on that list. Enquiring minds want to know!

Cloggie on Fri, 7th Oct 2016 12:10 am 



“Cloggie’s dutch and they can neither defend themselves nor attack. Really good at whining for others to do it though.”

Friday, the Dutch in 1672 repelled a simultanous attack by the Catholic French, British and Germans intending to destroy the tiny Protestant bullwark:

https://youtu.be/j21t1i_SiKI

And because it could happen anytime again, the Dutch decided to invade Britain (your overlord until today) and conquered the entire island, as well as a large part of Ireland in order to make it Protestant so it stopped being hostile. Holland looted the British treasuries to stop the French. With the naval operation Holland succeeded where Napoleon and Hitler failed. It is difficult to find a military event more daring in the entire history, whereby a tiny nation managed to keep two larger nations in check that outnumbered the Dutch 10:1.

The British defeat at te hand of the Dutch was so embarasing that is was erased from British (and as such from Canadian) history teaching:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-560614/The-1688-invasion-Britain-thats-erased-history.html

The 1688 event gave meaning to the lives of the British, Northern Irish and Canadians until today:

Toronto 2013,Canadians paying tribune to the Dutch military invasion and conquest of Britain that defined that defined Canadian lives for centuries to come.

https://youtu.be/5rLdxIo9J_Q

Orange Order in Canada:
https://youtu.be/rqu26T_txdQ

The invasion meant the foundation of Anglosphere, that now 400 years later will come to an end. Never forget what you owe your Dutch masters.

The darkest moment in Dutch history was in 1945 when forces from British colony Canada added free and independent Holland to the US AngloZionist windfall empire, resulting from the war between Germany and Russia aka WW2. Thanks to the AngloZionist jackboot we all speak English now and worse all western cities are morphing into third world hell holes thanks to the rule of the Soros types.

Thanks to China, Russia and the European and American right, the AngloZionists like you will soon get a beating from which they will not recover.

Zionist-run Anglosphere, the largest desaster in the history of the white race.

The eventual fate of Anglo losers:

https://youtu.be/8TwuFi_3nx4

Subdued by a bunch of Hottentots.LMAO

BLM, the goons that could run the new Soros Gulags on US soil if the rest of the world doesn’t intervene and split the joint up. That’s what’s happening next. Comparable to the events of 1776, present day Trump voters will be liberated by an outside force from nihilist NWO scum like you, because they can’t do it themselves.

The future of white Amerika, the Missisipi basin:

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/c3/Mississippiriver-new-01.png

Cloggie on Fri, 7th Oct 2016 12:28 am 



History teaches that every geopolitical top dog gets about 100 years and then it is over:

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-06-12/nothing-lasts-forever

You only have to read the deeply pessimistic self-defeating comments on this forum to know that the end for America is near.

Add to that pictures like these:

https://youtu.be/4DObO9mTpPA

…to know that essential racial pride is entirely lacking in America and instead absolute simmians are put on a pedestal, betraying the future of white American children.

As Trump already suggested: America is rapidly becoming a third world country that attempts in vain to adhere to first world standards. This America won’t rule the world, regardless how much the Zionists, who run the place and destroyed the country via mass migration, would want that to happen. Stronger races will take over soon.

Not really winners:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1182373/Welcome-binge-Britain-Polish-photographer-documents-years-drunken-revelry-Cardiff.html

Auf wiedersehen!

GregT on Fri, 7th Oct 2016 12:43 am 



“Stronger races will take over soon.”

My bet would be on the Chinese.

makati1 on Fri, 7th Oct 2016 1:17 am 



GregT, I second that bet.

Cloggie on Fri, 7th Oct 2016 1:32 am 



Of course it is going to be China… unless we Europeans worldwide grow a pair, overthrow Zionist rule, develop a healthy pride in the immense achievements of our ancestors and form a culture circle that can easily balance China and we still remain on top, like in the past 2000 years.

makati1 on Fri, 7th Oct 2016 2:55 am 



Cloggie, Europe has NOT been on top for the last 2,000 years. How about all of the wars between the European ‘tribes’ up until the mid-twentieth, the black death, dark ages, etc? Meanwhile, China was exploring the world, building a nation and trading all over the globe. A nation in fact for 3,000 years before those 2,000 years. Do you suppose they lost the ability to lead? I doubt it.

Cloggie on Fri, 7th Oct 2016 4:30 am 



“China was exploring the world, building a nation and trading all over the globe.”

That’s absurd, that s precisely what they did not do. Chinese build a Trumpian wall to keep foreigners out (Mongols). Meanwhile the Europeans did all the discoveries, colonizing and trading.

There is no Chinese Marco Polo.

Spanish arrival in America:
https://youtu.be/LT9YKjn67Og

It is likely the Vikings went there before. And Thor Heijerdahl proved that the ancients at least had the means to cross the Atlantic:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kon-Tiki_expedition

The Dutch discovered Australia and Nieuw Zeeland first:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Holland_(Australia)

It were Europeans who explored the poles first, not to mention the moon.

https://65.media.tumblr.com/06ccad39b2840236ace1def4b70c8b3b/tumblr_mk16hgpMqp1s87hito5_r2_1280.jpg

Chinese never “lead” in anything.

makati1 on Fri, 7th Oct 2016 5:10 am 



Cloggie, real history seems to elude you. Pushed out by European “exceptionalism”, I guess. Brainwashed by your primary school fiction.

“Chinese foreign trade began as early as the Western Han dynasty (206 BCE-9 CE)”

… when Europe was still in the Iron Age.

“China is one of the world’s oldest civilizations,[5] and is regarded as one of the cradles of civilization.” … When tribes were still running around Europe in their skins and stone spears.

Chinese inventions:
Paper
Movable type
Gunpowder
Compass
Bell
Wooden coffin
Pottery
Lacquer
Millet cultivation
Rowing oar
Noodle
Plowshare
Rice cultivation
Soybean cultivation
Banknote
Borehole drilling (as deep as 2,000 feet)
Crossbow
Kite
Rudder, stern-mounted and vertical axial:
Toilet paper
And on and on… WIKI

How many of these allowed Europeans to sail, or even wipe their ass with other than leaves? lol

I might also suggest: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chinese_exploration

Cloggie on Fri, 7th Oct 2016 5:31 am 



““Chinese foreign trade began as early as the Western Han dynasty (206 BCE-9 CE)” … when Europe was still in the Iron Age.”

Don’t make yourself ridiculous:

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/e8/Olympos.jpg
Olympia, 776 BC

http://historyonfilm.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/vlcsnap-2013-03-27-19h15m27s28.png
Rome

China is indeed one of the oldest civilizations around but their contributions to present day globalist civilization is mostly limited to plastic junk for sale at Walmart.

makati1 on Fri, 7th Oct 2016 5:54 am 



Careful Cloggie, your ignorance is showing. LMAO

You might google to see who has the fastest super computer today. Hint, it isn’t in the West.

Anonymous on Fri, 7th Oct 2016 6:21 am 



Dont you know how to link references clog?, instead of you know….pretty pictures? It might help make your case if linked to actual information, instead of just some nifty imagery, which of course, are free of any context or information. (But they look nice….)

Davy on Fri, 7th Oct 2016 6:31 am 



Anonymous, at least he can write normal unlike you.

Davy on Fri, 7th Oct 2016 6:35 am 



“Russia Becomes a Grain Superpower as Wheat Exports Explode”
http://tinyurl.com/j6fzm47

“Long known for its oil and gas, Russia is now moving to retake leadership in the world wheat trade it last held when the Czars ruled. In the process, it’s reshaping the market for one of the world’s most important traded food products.”

Boat on Fri, 7th Oct 2016 8:54 am 



You grown children playing who’s stronger is silly. China strong? 60 years ago they lost 50 million or so due to famine. It takes fear and intimidation just to keep their hoards in check. What has been impressive is pulling 600,000 comrades out of poverty. Some might call the effort poorly planned because off pollution but over all, impressive.
Any country can exert military force and take ground but in the modern world it is very expensive to do so. The tax paying public doesn’t like it. War and its dynamics keep changing.

Cloggie on Fri, 7th Oct 2016 9:36 am 



Finally some good news from the German government, they want to set up a European army, independent from NATO. And since the UK is blocking such a move within the EU, Brussels is now going to be bypassed:

https://www.rt.com/op-edge/361832-eu-army-nato-germany/

This move would create options for the future, unlikely mentioned in the German policy paper: namely a potential intervention of Greater European forces on North-American soil 1776-style (but on a 100 times larges scale) once the “Confederate Flag Wavers” have enough of the Soros et al defined New America and prefer to be a member of European culture circle instead with main constituing members: the Germans, French, Russians and Amerikaner.

Our European interest in heavily investing in such a turn of events is to prevent a last minute Chinese-American alliance, as prefered by the Sanhedrin:

https://youtu.be/wBMnDLQr7-M
[6:47]

EU + Russia + Middle America is enough to continue to be the dominant force in this world, with interplanetary potential.

onlooker on Fri, 7th Oct 2016 9:46 am 



“War and its dynamics keep changing”. Meanwhile preparing for and threatening to make war is becoming ever more ludicrous as humanity collectively is in pretty much the same plight or Boat

Cloggie on Fri, 7th Oct 2016 9:58 am 



@Anonymous, I merely reacted to makati’s insane suggestion that by 200 BC, Europeans lived in the “Iron Age”. At the time Rome had a developed republic with a law system we still use today.

I’m currently in Istanbul, visiting the places good old James Bond visited while underway in her majesty’s service:

https://youtu.be/q-vBFzqKu8I
Hagia Sophia

https://youtu.be/bVtwNzF1BP8
Basilica Cisterne, a wonderful experience; underground water reservoir, build by emperor Justinian in the 6th century, connected to a source of water in the mountains via an aquaduct of 19 km.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Basilica_Cistern

Day was completed with a visit to the central station, where the Oriënt Express arrives and the Topkapi museum, to verify that Greek civilization in Byzantium and Black Sea 500 BC was anything but “Iron Age”.

ghung on Fri, 7th Oct 2016 10:00 am 



Cloggie: “… namely a potential intervention of Greater European forces on North-American soil 1776-style (but on a 100 times larges scale)…”

Cloggie’s favorite wet dream. He skips the part where the EU is America’s biggest trading partner, where the EU simply doesn’t have the resource base, and where Brussels and Germany would go broke over night. But go for it Cloggo; whatever it takes for you to get it up. Your local BDSM brothel get too expensive?

Funny part is that I truly believe you think any of us take you seriously.

Cloggie on Fri, 7th Oct 2016 10:19 am 



The resource base is Russia… you understand the term “Greater Europe” I hope?

Your absurd world view is that where the entire third world tries to make it to Europe, the Euro-Americans are expected to enjoy the opposite journey: straight into the third world.

News flash: they don’t.

That maybe hard to understand for an English NWO adherent and Hillary voter like you but it is not the way normal whites, preferably “arrogant Germanics”, tick.

I think we Europeans can find allies in North-America. Secession is not an absurd idea.

Cloggie on Fri, 7th Oct 2016 10:28 am 



@ghung – most people posting here are left leaning, like you. And they won’t take it seriously indeed, comparable to these 1984 Yugoslavs who thought that Yugoslavia would last forever.

But there are Americans, much smarter than you (yes they do exist!), who wouldn’t find my expectations for the future that far-fetched:

https://www.amazon.com/Suicide-Superpower-Will-America-Survive-ebook/dp/0312579977/ref=sr_1_1

ghung on Fri, 7th Oct 2016 10:46 am 



Cloggie, as long as you keep assigning things to me that are simply bullshit, I will keep calling you a liar. Your entire world is a fabrication designed to support your wet dream. As for me being “left-leaning”, I don’t have a problem with that since anything left of your neo-right-superiority world view must be left-leaning, eh? May someone carve a big AfD on your forehead with a Bowie knife. I would enjoy watching you squirm.

Boat on Fri, 7th Oct 2016 11:11 am 



Clog,

Talk of succession in N America is absurd. In fact Mexico, Canada and the US are dependent on each other. In spite of a small percentage of Trump racist voters froth the vast majority of Americans hold Canidians and Mexicans in high reguard.
I havent seen a poll but I would hazard a guess that the poulations like each other more than their governments.

GregT on Fri, 7th Oct 2016 11:31 am 



After Brexit, support soars for Texas secession movement ‘Texit’

“It is past time that the people of Texas had their say on our continued relationship with the Union and its sprawling Federal bureaucracy,” said TNM president Daniel Miller in a statement.

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/jun/24/after-brexit-support-soars-texas-secession-push/

GregT on Fri, 7th Oct 2016 11:34 am 



Will Texas Stick Around for a Hillary Clinton Presidency?

Three out of five Trump voters in the Lone Star State would back secession if the Democrat wins, a new poll finds.

http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2016/08/clinton-wins-texas-secedes/496166/

Cloggie on Fri, 7th Oct 2016 11:36 am 



“as long as you keep assigning things to me that are simply bullshit”

Like what? Hillary voter? NWO adherent? (I know since recently you no longer believe yourself that the scheme is going to work).

And about that Bowie knife… I am well aware of the sadistic tendencies of your kind, like specializing in killing as many women and children as possible from safe attitude and torturing people into holocaust confessions.

http://www.ihr.org/jhr/v07/v07p389_faurisson.html

Your capital is now Muslim owned and continental Europe is united and about to rearm, the British worst nightmare.

Your (NWO) kind is going to lose the next war, as you already admitted yourself that that is going to happen.

You don’t want to be an Englishman in the 21st century. Enjoy the ride into the abyss, it is going to hurt a little. And remember old chap: at all times stiff upper lip!

Meanwhile back to immediate politics:

http://tinyurl.com/joeggx2

Watch the second video with Americans enraged that the Russians have blocked the US-instigated murderous war in Syria. They would love that the Russians would down a US jet, which would tilt the election outcome to Hillary. I’m expecting an “incident” to that effect any moment (“October surprise”).

The site with the embedded video’s is my home site, the #1 rightwing populist forum in the Netherlands and the largest forum in the Netherlands in the first place and Geert Wilders supporters.

For historic reasons, Holland is the #1 US supporter since WW2. But on the Syria matter, the majority is against what the US is doing there by supporting Jihadists. Americans are well advised not to underestimate the sentiment in Europe regarding the US actions since 2000. Nobody on the right anywhere in Europe believes in the noble intentions of the US anymore. The US already lost the goodwill war, very significant.

http://www.unz.com/pbuchanan/isis-not-russia-is-the-enemy-in-syria/

http://www.unz.com/emargolis/how-far-are-we-from-war-with-russia-over-syria/